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    *** Official Clevo Sager NP9155 / P750TM-G / P751TM-G Owner's Lounge! ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Oct 6, 2017.

  1. t456

    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    Laziness, really; move it almost daily and have to navigate some stairs while doing so. Prefer to limit the number of runs, so use the lid as a carrying tray for the adapter, peripherals and a thermos of tea.
    I agree; it's been improved a bit over the previous DTR models.
    Before sanding it was completely covered by the spray paint, so the edge wasn't noticeable at all. Could use a thin line of black silicone, but don't really care about that; a worn look is fine.
    Hmm, no. The chevron-shape is a bit elevated, but it's flat otherwise. Good thing too, otherwise it'd be quite difficult to make a permanent bond between the lid and the sheet.
    It's 330x230x1.2mm = 91,080 mm³. At 4420 kg/m³ that gives about 400g, some 11% over the standard weight of the system.
    Solid. And you don't have to open it by handling the center in order to prevent warping the lid; any edge/position is just as good as another.
     
  2. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Just dont lift the hinge with anything that heavy on it :p
     
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    Phryq Notebook Guru

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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    You can try a delta brick instead if you want. The model is (with the right connector)

    Delta ADP-330AB D
     
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    gilvbp Newbie

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    Nice!
    Hi, anyone knows if I could upgrade my sager bios to this bios version?
    I have np9155s model 4k
    I want to upgrade my 8700k to 9900k
    Thanks

     
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  7. Phryq

    Phryq Notebook Guru

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    But doesn't that picture show 4.4 amps?

    Also, if I put something like this WrapTop around the laptop, it'll probly overheat, right?

    https://lessemf.com/computer.html
     
  8. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Don't confuse with AC input power from the wall.
    upload_2019-4-3_15-13-52.png

    And don't use WrapTop. Maybe not overheating but why want higher internal chassis temp?
     
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  9. Phryq

    Phryq Notebook Guru

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    What about buying just the connector, so I could build my own power supply?
     
  10. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    that sounds.....adventurous/dangerous, to say the least o_O if by "building" u mean just combine a ready made psu with a connector, then thats fine though.

    Sent from my Xiaomi Mi Max 2 (Oxygen) using Tapatalk
     
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  11. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    I don't want to sound rude but they are complex and it's going to go well beyond knowing the difference between input power and output power to get something efficient and safe.
     
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    charting Notebook Enthusiast

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    Sorry if this has already been addressed but I have had my EVOC P751TM-G for almost a year now and think I need to try to clean it. I have never opened it or any other laptop before. Is there a guide anywhere or maybe even a more general guide that can help me? I am thinking I need to buy some compressed air.
     
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    Remove all the screws on the bottom, carefully pull off the bottom cover and then boom you are in. Compressed air and hold the fans still so you don't turn them into generators with the compressed air ;)
     
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    Thank you kind sir, wasn't sure if there was anything to be aware of with this particular model.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Don't drop it and break off capacitors like someone else did when opening their machine ;)
     
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    bios.jpg bios1.jpg bios2.jpg cc-1.jpg
    Hello

    I just updated the Bios of my Clevo P751TM1-G (Schenker DTR 15/Ultra 15) with Core i9 9900K + RTX 2080.
    After that I was wondering why are there -100mV CPU voltage set after the bios update in the bios ?
    When I reset everthing to default it is still set to -100mV.

    Control Center 2.0 shows these -100mV too.
    It is possible to change that value in CC2.0 but after a reboot the Bios setting will start the machine with -100mV.

    Before the bios update I tried some undervolting and found out that Throttle Stop was working fine with -125mV.

    I just want to understand what is the normal value here and what has changed .

    I updated an other Clevo P751TM1-G (Ultra 15) with Core i5 9600K + GTX1070 and there is no undervolting after the bios update.
     
  17. jc_denton

    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    I found that if you remove -100mV offset by setting it to 0 it will revert to -100 on reboot. Trick is to set it to 1, then it should stick.
     
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    It does that by default as almost all chips can cope with the undervolt and it helps cool the system.
     
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    Mine is set that way as well. You're not alone.

    My BIOS is supposedly "unlocked" which gives me two ways to access that value (I use a different menu than what you've posted, not sure what's standard). Adjusting the offset voltage, limits, etc. does stick in that other BIOS screen, though. However, I use Throttlestop to adjust it anyways since it can access all the values I need, so the BIOS defaults don't make a make a difference.

    Are you able to change the setting in BIOS? And if so, does it stick after a reboot?
     
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    Ok.

    Ok but why did my other machine with Core i5 9600K did no undervolting after the same bios update ?

    Ok what do you exactly mean with stick and what did you do to reset everthing when you are not able to enter the bios ?
     
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    The i5 9600k is generally lower quality silicon and does not run as hot.
     
  22. The Underdog

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    By "stick" I mean that it saves and holds the values you enter after a reboot. So if you enter -125mV in the BIOS, save that value and reboot, does it keep your -125mV entry? Or does it reset to -100mV on its own with each reboot?

    I don't understand your second question. There are instructions in my BIOS to reset to default, but I haven't used them. I am able to enter my BIOS on boot as normal and can adjust things manually there. But I use Throttlestop, which provides access to the same settings I would find in the BIOS.

    I've set power and current limits in the BIOS so that these settings are automatically applied on boot. Then I use Throttlestop to adjust voltage. I could do all these things through the BIOS or through Throttlestop independently, this was just the most convenient for me.

    Do you mean "reset everything" from windows? Even if your BIOS is set to -100mV, you should be able to override that with Throttlestop.
     
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    Ok thank you.
    I´ll try.
    I prefer Throttlestop too but will investigate the bios settings too.
     
  24. Papusan

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    @Prema removed this forced -100mv undervolt in his mods. Those was added in by Clevo.
    Same reseller/vendor model?
     
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    For the general population the undervolt is a nice idea.
     
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    Not forced on you. I prefer options. Aka do it myself. Everything can easily be explained in a user manual. It's about just do it from the Notebook OEM (manufacurers) side. Just look at the forced power settings from MSI. @Falkentyne :D
     
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    You can change it though, most people want so unless you make changes it will give you the undervolt.
     
  28. Papusan

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    The question is will they continue use forced -100Mv undervolt as standard? From the new 9th gen Mobile in this model it wasn't stable. Of course it will depends on how the notebook manufacurers put up power settings in firmware. But I still don't like the concept. Everything that smells *forced* doesn't look great in my book.
     
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    That's not a desktop chip ;)
     
  30. Papusan

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    I know :) Still no valid reason for the forced undervolt. Both desktop and mobile chips run hot if you push them. Especially the unlocked one if you max out the oc potentiale.
     
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    The desktops are run with a higher margin as power is less important on most desktops.
     
  32. gannjunior

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    Hi guys,
    1yr ago I bought in Italy the "Raiontech DX2" based on Clevo P751TM

    - i7-8700 6 CORE 3.20GHz Turbo 4.60Ghz TDP 65W Delidded CPU
    -15.6" LED FULL HD IPS (1920 X 1080) 144Hz 16:9 panel Matte G Sync -- AUO B156HAN07.0 --
    -Nvidia GeForce GTX1060 6GB GDDR5
    -Wireless N 1.73Gbps Intel AC 9260 Dual Band + Bluetooth 5.0
    -PSU 230W
    -TB3

    Any chance to get monitored all the drivers with some all-in-one software that could help me to keep everything updated?
    Any bios update? I never got any update about bios from when I bought (also asked for a custom bios to the shop where I bought but they never gave me anything).
    Using Intel Extreme tuning to lower by 100 the CPU but I'd like to do it through bios (but my current bios does not support this kind of tweak).

    Thanks
    ciao!
     
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    Unless you have issues just keep the GPU drivers up to date from Nvidia.com

    You would normally get your BIOS updates from your reseller.
     
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    I don't guarantee it because the wrong file can brick your machine.
     
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    Where do we get the audio drivers? My mic doesn't work.

    Realtek? How do we find the right one?
     
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    Your reseller should have a base set of drivers.
     
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    Guys,
    updated to Obsidian bios.

    A question (my config in sign): using all 6 core in full load I reach what's expected, I mean max 4.3ghz.
    Using single core operation I would attend 4.6ghz, but I see multiplier does not go above 43x.
    Are there some specific option I can touch in bios settings to reach my goal?
    The cpu is delidded and well cooled.

    This is what my bios show in the turbo options window (where I would expect I need to modify something):
    upload_2019-5-14_23-27-25.png


    and these are the settings indide the control station
    upload_2019-5-14_23-29-23.png


    any advices?
    thank you
     
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    How are you testing single core? That's pretty hard to do.
     
  41. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    You can not overclock a 8700 (non-K) model CPU via multiplier.
     
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    ok mate, but I should expect to reach 46x multiplier for single core processes as it is in its specifics. don't?
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Yes, it does that on its own. Nothing you have to change for it to do that.
    It's just that almost all the time more than one core is already used by the OS processes alone, so you will only see it briefly jump up there for a second or so.
     
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    2 and 3 core are much more common.
     
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    Hi guys,
    LPC-Digital offers this model with 9900K + 2080 combo but with only 1x330W adapter because they say it's enough. Is it safe to purchase 1x780W adapter to use instead? Will I be risking frying my new laptop?
     
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    Probably a lot safer than if you go with the Alienware's. I haven't seen Clevo's go up in smoke with more powerful Power adapters.
     
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    Thanks

    Sent from my PH-1 using Tapatalk
     
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    I plan on using the 9900K + 2080 at 4.5GHz + 1700MHz or lower, with some undervolting. Would 1x330W adapter be enough?
     
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    I use a single 330W adapter. It's not as power hungry as you might think based on the specs because:
    a) The 2080 is power limited at 150W
    b) The 9900k is amazingly efficient at lower clocks
    c) Trying to push the 9900k to higher clocks (4.8+) will quickly start to overwhelm the cooling anyways and require some tweaking.

    For both the CPU and GPU, undervolting is your main tweak because of the above constraints. I wouldn't be surprised if you can hold 4.5 GHz and 1700MHz at factory stock.
     
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    stock clocks on both should definitely be doable on a single 330W psu. the gpu sips 150W with the cpu at around 130-140W at stock under full blast load (prime95). when exactly are you guys planning to have situations where both gpu AND cpu are loaded to the max? basically never happens, even in the most demanding games or everyday apps :) so no worries there mate, just dont touch the overclocking controls (or rather just do overclocking on gpu/cpu separately, but never together haha)

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