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How are temps looking with that undervolt?

 

UserBenchmarks: Game 109%, Desk 115%, Work 73%
CPU: Intel Core i5-9400F - 84.5%
GPU: Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070 - 119.5%
SSD: Nvme addlink M.2 PCIE 1TB - 249.4%
HDD: Seagate FireCuda 2.5" 1TB - 43%
RAM: Crucial CT8G4SFS824A.M8FE 2x8GB - 80%
MBD: Eurocom Sky X4C


Blergh. finally :/

 

82 tops with small fft on p95

 

That looks very reasonable.

 

You should not see higher than that so well under control.

 

Hello @jc_denton, thanks for the +. My 2070 seems to be a happy camper and I can push +100 on the core and memory without issues in the few tests I ran. I am still trying to tweak windows to my liking and removing a bit of bloat. Let's see if I can get her performing like a 2080 stock if I can. However, my plan is to upgrade to a 3x80 card when it comes out or, if amd decides to get back in the MXM game. lol

 

The 2080 is such a broad target though, I assume you mean a proper one?

 

Indeed kind sir, indeed. I will have to do exactly what I did with my 1060 on my asus laptop. That thing ran with very nice thermals and boosted well till 2010MHz after modifying the voltage curve.

 

That's with TDP modification though, which unfortunately isn't a thing yet (if ever) on RTX.

 

Woah. This is news to me. This is my first turing card so I guess I'll need to push the TDP to a higher value to allow the card more headroom? Akin to the power envelope that the earlier models had?

 

What I’m saying is you can’t up the TDP on Turing like you could with Pascal, which allowed your 1060N to boost to 2GHz+ under load.

 

nVidia has to always ruin everything for everyone.

 

Party poopers

 

i think the best way to get most out of the 2070, would be to undervolt it. So that it could boost as high as the thermals would allow. (locking the msi afterburner volt curve)

 

I guess that's the only way, unless we mess with voltage tables in the vbios (like car ECUs, lol) or have some other crazy scientist from here who decided to take it on himself.

 

*looks at wallet*

Maybe next generation.

 

Me: *Looks at wallet*

My wallet:


Me: Maybe in a future birth...

 

Hardware mods are the only thing that might work for the moment.

 

Just to foster a bit of discussion, would Ice lake make it to the 751 chassis?

 

only if Clevo decides on a 751 refresh. a different cpu socket and chipset will be necessary for sure.

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Hmm :/ I guess I could or should have waited before I pulled the pin but then, I could be waiting forever . I think I'll get the 9900ks or Kf and call it a day.

 

It will be interesting to see how well the s is binned.

 

well next upcoming part will be comet lake with 10 cores, so at max just 25% more performance than 9900K. Ice Lake for desktops wont be until much later in late 2020 or so...

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Anyway, I think we aren't missing too much of the action. I am just wondering about the thermals part. Node shrink to 10nm from 14nm isn't that huge so with two more cores, I am assuming thermal density will more or less be similar to the 9900k but there are other factors ofcourse.

 

10 cores will come before 10nm. Probably 14nm+++

 

yep, as @Papusan said, comet lake 10 core will still be on 14 nm.

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10nm from 14nm is a huge shrink percentage wise. I think the target is/was 2.7x density.

 

Holy moly. 2.7x? 4nm gives that much of a difference?

 

4nm is 33% after all that's huge and the "nm" scale does not mean much, on the whole it's similar to the 7nm of TSMC.

 

The nm part means minimum distance between two transistors if I remember it correctly and hence, it is only a representation of how much of transistor density can be present in a given area of silicon. You can have layouts like that of Ryzen with multiple chiclets (CCXs) with multiple core clusters or single monolithic dies. The only reason I am even remotely showing interest towards comet lake is because of possible thermal improvements.

And as usual, If i made a mistake regarding something, please do correct me.

 

NM can mean any single aspect of the process. It's not well defined and really at the end of the day is not really comparable to another process.

 

i.e. marketing voodoo

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Bingo. Marketing jargon of course But yes, it has a bit of science going with it.

 

It's a rough guide and puts you in a ballpark.

 

Got my 2070 setup atleast to the base performance level (will tweak the freq vs voltage further anyway). OC scanner said average was +135MHz core with dominant limit being power.

 

Power will be on the mobile cards.

 

I will be tweaking the voltage v frequency curve soon as the OC scanner is just a baseline (something I had known but validated by @jc_denton 's comment (thanks!)). I will do it manually and stress test it as the fact is the frequencies can be bumped up at lower voltages but at higher voltages, pushing it higher would not give as much as a gain (thermally as well). Games like WT fully maxed push the core temps upto 73 degrees max from what I have seen. It might go higher but I think it definitely wont push past 80 degrees.

 

It does sound like you have some headroom at least. Small voltage changes can cause large temperature swings.

 

I guess expecting my laptop to be slightly silent is wishful thinking. The thing whines like a banshee.

 

as long as it performs like a banshee as well, it fine. just ask @Mr. Fox

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Indeed it does. Didnt expect to eat my old desktop up like a snack. To perform like this is something I wasn't really expecting !

 

Laptops don't tend to have much passive cooling

 

Thing is, if i pop the laptop into water, I could theoretically go much faster than a motorboat if I use the fans as props. lol

 

The fans are more like the paddle wheel ships than a prop based motor

 

Tweaking it still.
UserBenchmarks: Game 95%, Desk 113%, Work 75%
CPU: Intel Core i5-9400F - 81.9%
GPU: Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070 - 94.3%
SSD: Nvme addlink M.2 PCIE 1TB - 246%
HDD: Seagate FireCuda 2.5" 1TB - 47.4%
RAM: Crucial CT8G4SFS824A.M8FE 2x8GB - 79.2%
MBD: Eurocom Sky X4C

 

How are you finding it?

 

So far so good Meak. It's been quite cooperative. However, I do feel the CPU cooling needs to be a bit more beefier. I am still waiting for someone here with that Taobao heatsink on their P751TM1 as some reviews are saying they have improvements even on air.

Other than that, I got the spares from Eurocom for my little shipping incident and have decided to wrap the LCD back cover and keyboard cover with some nice 3d carbon fibre.

 

The 9400F is getting to what temperature? They are still using thermal paste under the IHS on those right?

 

Yes. All stock. I believe the 9400F uses stock thermal paste aka pTIM. Maybe delid+LM or even Kryonaut can help.
The temps are okay (around 70s to 80s for the most part). Just that I am preparing to upgrade to the 9900k/ks/kf and feel it might be good to keep things ready.

 

Delid would help regardless just it's much more difficult with the soldered parts.