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Is it worth to upgrade to a 9900K from 8700K?

 

+46% multithread performance in cinebench r15 / +36% general performance in applications / +8% games fps at FHD / +12% in game frametimes at FHD / +5 & 10% games fps & frametimes at UHD

you decide what u need it for

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All depends on the games And 8700K manage the task for 1080 Ti quite good

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-9900k/19.html

 

Once they are all at 5GHz the difference is smaller too.

 

Well I doubt I can run 5ghz in a laptop, I'm already struggling with anything higher then 4.5GHz. It was just a thought to get 9900K with a all core OC of 4.4GHz. I mostly play BFV and some of the newer RTX games. Was also looking to upgrade to 2080 but I realized the price to performance increase is not worth it. Probably the same with the 9900K.

 

Then the advantage for the 9900k drops as it looses clock speed.

 

But the extra cores...

 

Clock frequency is still important. It’s a reason AMD with lower clock speed still lags behind Intel in games.

 

I guess it's no point in upgrading and waiting till next gen of RTX and Intel.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-2020.830221/

 

6 cores 12 threads is a good position for bow certainly.

 

I think the only reason one will go for the 9900k will be for threaded workloads demanding those extra cores. 8700k is still plenty for the p751 chassis I think. Also, the newer design shared by yrekabakery is not to my taste. However, that heatsink looks beefy.
If that taobao heatsink is upto scratch, i think that would be a good option. Otherwise, I have no idea what else to do

 

I thought i posted this in the P775 thread lol

 

Nope

 

Well...

 

I had initially posted this on the Clevo BIOS thread, here goes:

On the EVOC P775TM1-R running the Prema BIOS mod as shipped from HIDEvolution: The special keys (Fn+ combination keys) do not work on battery power.
For instance, if I need to lower my laptop's brightness on battery power, I cannot do so by pressing Fn+F8, yet the same combination works on AC.

Could this be a BIOS or a driver problem?

 

Does it work if you instead change use the brightness slider in Windows Mobility Center?

 

Yes, it does. Both on and off AC power.

 

Me thinks that the firmware is responsible for this behaviour. Maybe you could ask fellow owners for their BIOS version and compare with them? Also, did you try a CMOS reset?

 

I'd speak to your reseller about it.

 

Hey fellows,

An update on this: On the Windows side, this issue was fixed by the latest Windows update. Truly confusing.
On Linux: Installing tuxedo-wmi restores all functionality, including backlight and airplane mode control with the special function keys.

 

Looks like MS broke something again

 

Hello, I got my 750tm1-g a little more than a year ago,
its a 8700k gtx 1070 model with 32gb of ram dual samsung 256gb ssds and dual firecuda 2tb sshds, with I believe the samsung 4k screen (thats all off the top of my head and its been awhile but I'm farely sure thats right)

I have bothered doing much of anything to the laptop, but I've had a problem that seems to be getting worse lately,

To give you a little context I'm a sim racer who has gone off to college, and I have my 750 mounted to an obutto revolution hanging in a custom-built steel cradle under my left monitor that lets my laptop get clean air (I also have a couple of noctua fans I've been meaning to mount under it for a laptop cooler effect but haven't gotten around to it) my monitors are hooked via minidisplay port to hdmi/straight hdmi, and all my other devices run through a dell D3100 display link dock (when I'm not gaming/taking my laptop on and off my rig regularly I plug my monitors into the D3100, but I lose surround support) devices mostly include a couple arduinos running some stuff, an accuforce direct drive wheel, a corsair K700RGB keyboard, a logitech g700, and a behringer XENYX302USB with audiotechnia AT2020 and ath-m50x plugged in

(sorry for the paragraph but trying to answer as many questions as I can in my first post)

on to my problem,

Whenever I'm hardcore gaming (sim racing, or even sniper elite 4 (that game really causes this problem)) my computer will suddenly disconnect from my usb devices, then I'll lose my screens, and the whole thing will lock up, the few times I've managed to exit the game using the keyboard on the laptop (which stays connected) and looked at cpu temps they've been fine (in the 60 degree range), I have the problem at least one person here has had where the stock gpu program is showing gpu temps at 0 degrees, so I'm not sure about gpu temps, but I imagine there quite toasty from running my triple 1080p 60hz screens (they really shouldn't be too toasty, I used to run these screens with a 1060 and had no problems with frames or anything)

I've had this happen like 5 times in the last couple days, and the air temp in my room has been like 65-70 degrees f (it was happening this summer but I blamed it on the like 90 degree temps my room would get to) so I'm getting pretty frustrated, I thought I would get on here, and I read through 60 pages of the thread with nothing about a problem like this so I thought I would post about it,

I do not know if the problem happens when I dont have my setup plugged in as I never game like that but I plan on trying that shortly


Thank you in advance for any insight on what could be going on



oh P.S. the laptop is completely stock, (well actually I bought it second hand but the seller said he didn't do anything to it and it was basically brand new when I got it...) no overclock no voltage changes etc, as far as a delidding or anything I have no idea... it is an AVADirect machine...

 

Use hwinfo to check if your PCH temperatures are over 108c.

 

oh boy, PCH temp hit 111.5 before the crash, looked around online I see some people adding thermal pads between the pch and the keyboard is that the recommended move here? (if its as simple as that I should've done this a long time ago lol)


Thanks so much, I know a lot about computers but have never heard of a PCH lol


Jon

 

This PCH temp is not normal.

 

Add a pad and double check what the heat does. It's not a massive amount of thermal energy it's just not going anywhere.

It also is hotter than normal so if the pad helps a little rather than a lot then something could be up with the motherboard.

 

alright, I hear some talk about pads sweating silicon grease and some stuff, do yall have a recommendation on what type of pad I should get for this and does anyone happen to have a link to a teardown guide or something (I mean I could probably figure it out I've had laptops apart before but there's always like that one hidden screw lol)

 

Gelid or the cheaper Arctic thermal pads. Both soft thermal pads which is preferred.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...wingman-2-0-batman-3-0-lounge.794538/page-459

 

On my p751 PCH temp hovers around 90c with High performance power plan, but drops to just under 70c with Balanced power plan.
So maybe try it with Balanced power profile.
What I do is keep it always at Balanced but then use ThrottleStop for 4 profiles with different EPP, clocks, etc.

 

The balanced plan will save power on the PCI-e bus (clocking it down to 1.0 mode when full bandwidth is not needed) which will help temps.

 

If anyone here is using the current gen Clevo P775TM1-G (e.g. Eurocom Sky X7C, System 76 Serval WS, Origin- Eon 17 etc.), can you please let me know if you've had any issues with the touchpad, especially palm-rejection? I've been hearing some bad stuff about the touchpad, and I am reconsidering whether I should order the Sky X7C again for my next laptop...

 

My Vision p775tm1-g never had any touchpad issues, however I almost always ended up switching the touchpad off. As I was using a usb mouse most of the time.

From my experience with different laptops, touchpads are mostly fine on their own. However, the software can have a grave impact on them. Making the input feel laggy and off and overall ruining the experience.

 

Thanks!

 

Where did you hear that about the touchpad?

 

I was actually looking around for reviews of the 775TM1-G, and came across a review on notebookcheck.net that was about two years old. They were basically saying there was "virtually no palm rejection at all", leading to the cursor jumping around and deleting entire lines while typing.

 

Very odd, not heard of issues.

 

Thanks! This helps. I rather like the notebook otherwise. Plenty of power, and plays well with GNU/Linux. It's a little on the larger side... but I guess that goes with the territory. My other pick for an upcoming purchase is the GE 75 Raider. But I am not sure about MSI's reputation with their BIOS, and I am dubious about that thin a chassis being able to properly cool a RTX 2080.

 

Larger size, larger performance

 

No issues at all with the touchpad

 

You should be fine as long as you don't pair it with an overclocked 9900k and 2080 with the p775tm1. Having a unified heatsink has a noticeable impact on thermals, which lead to the 2080 running lower clocks from what I've seen.

 

Having a unified heatsink wont impact peak full load temps usually.

 

Ah! But I'm looking to get the Eurocom Sky X7C. I initially thought of System 76 or Sager, or perhaps Xotic PC, but importing the thing to Quebec will cost too much. On the other hand, since Eurocom is based out of Quebec, but still in Canada, buying from them only incurs the GST but escapes the Quebec provincial tax. Eurocom also pre-installs GNU/Linux, as well as offering dual-boot options (I really wish Sager or some of the other boutiques would do this as well), and there are no shared heat sinks or pipes. I think this is something Eurocom does in-house, because other P775TM1-Gs do seem to share some cooling pipes. I did email them a few weeks back, just to verify, and they confirmed as much.

EDIT: And I wasn't planning on getting the i9 anyway, mostly to avoid carrying around two adapters (or the massive 730W one Eurocom sells)! Besides, if the need arises the socketed CPU can be upgraded later. I am more worried about whether the next generation of GPUs will remain compatible though...

 

The i9 could be tuned for peak efficiency rather than clocks which may help depending on workload.

 

I haven't had any issues running an OC'd 9900k + OC'd GTX1080 on a single 330W brick. And the RTX2080 should pull less power.

DTR's are an investment for sure, being capable of future upgrades and all. The chassis you chose will give you more or less headroom in the future. The P870TM1 chassis is pretty much as good as it gets, with the 400W capable vapor chamber.

 

True, the P870TM1 is a fantastic chassis! It used to be the one utilized for System 76 Bonobo WS, and is still available as the Eurocom SkyX9C. But it is noticeably heavier than the P775TM1-G, and the latter is already quite a hefty machine. I will need to be able to carry the machine occasionally, to different universities and conferences, and field trips. Not being able to use it on a flight is pretty much a given with any DTR, but theP870TM1 would just add a lot more weight and some ~500 bucks extra. The performance difference is hardly going to be worth it, in my opinion. The only meaningful difference in possible configurations between the two, as seen on Eurocom's website, seems to be the ability to add two RTX 2080s, with the second one (a CAD 1400 upgrade) being dedicated to Phys-X computation. Hardly a wise investment....

 

That or a second computer card for CAD but it is a much bigger chassis you are right and will be noticed carrying it around.

 

More like a complete scam.