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Brother @cope123abc had gone with one of those waterblocks for his p870. Might be an interesting read.

 

Hi guys !
I'm back, finally received my laptop and ready to do some tests on it.
I already started a stress test with XTU at stock settings and it's power throttling pretty much instantly. Temps are looking really good, but there's a power throttle that just appear right after I click the stress test button, do you know why and how I can change that ?
It seems like PCSpecialist already made some sort of custom profile on XTU, and it seems like I have to mess with the Turbo Boost function, but I'm not sure about this.

Here is a screenshot of my current stock settings.
I'm starting at around 4.5 Ghz and quickly going down to 3.2 because of the power throttle. Keep in mind that it happens almost immediatly after I click the stress test button, which is odd to me.

Would love your insight on this guys !
Thanks a lot

 

Power Limit getting triggered, raise your PL1 to something like 200000 and PL2 to 250000.

 

Could you tell me exactly which parameter it refers to on the screenshot ?
I'm pretty new to this so I don't want to **** this up.
Most importantly, is it safe to do so ?

Thanks !

 

What cpu is this? Higher power limit will allow it to boost to a higher frequency either until it spends the power budget or throttles due to VR/Thermals. You can expect higher temperatures.

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It's an i9-9900K.
I'm trying to find the right balance between temps and performance, but didn't expect the PL there.
Should I raise both PLs little by little or just push it all the way up (to the values you recommended) ? Can you confirm this is a safe operation ? My warranty is on the line here haha, sorry if I worry too much, just wanna make sure.

 

Your PL is set to 100W/165W. You can set it to 150W/200W and see how the temperatures react.
I'd also recommend you increase your undervolt, it's at -50mV currently. You should be able to push this further and test stability.

Continue undervolting by -10mV until you run into instability with the benchmark. Keeping final undervolt at 10mV above the point when it got unstable.

Also, make sure you are using fn+1, max fans while benchmarking/stress testing.

 

Thank you, I'll try all of that and come back with results

 

not gonna lie. I learned the FN+1 feature literally last night. I love it. I thought my laptop was just messed up or something as I couldn’t get fan boost to work previously. I was pressing FN+F1 all this time like a doofis. I really don’t need any fan control software now. FN+1 is all I need.

 

It's simple and it works.

 

Also remember to set your Windows in high performance mode.

 

Hey does you guys speedstep work in highperformance windows mode?

 

I only remember if turned off it clocks down too soon too much

 

Unified heatsinks and especially this solid one will need the CPU and GPU die to be very parallel, and I wonder how good does it make contact to both CPU and GPU.
Even if it's unified it should be a little flexible in the middle exactly for this thing.

 

Hey bro thanks for the mention , hope your well !!

 

If you read my thread you will see before / after during.

These do not come PERFECT alignment for CPU and GPU, i had to use K50 PRO paste, and then a decent thick compound for CPU.

Also don't use a aftermarket CPU lid like i originally was... it will mess everything up , if you read through the reviews you will see..

overall i think 25-30% gain in cooling and all silent..

 

@jc_denton

Hey dude, I'm back with some results. Your advice was good, I don't have any throttle issues anymore.

Running the XTU CPU stress test for 5 minutes at a time, I've manage to hit 4.7 GHz at temps between 70 and 78°C.
Running Cinebench CPU test got a little warmer, still hitting 4.7 GHz but at temps between 80 to 85°C, sometimes hitting the 90°C mark.
Scored 1943 on Cinebench.
Now, running the XTU integrated benchmark, I instantly hit the "Current/EDP limit" and scored 2920 marks at 4.7 GHz for a max temp of 74°C.

As for undervolting, I've found the best stable parameter to be -0.135V. I crashed pretty quick at -0.150V and -0.140 seems to be fine, altough I had a little freeze in the Clevo Control Center so I went to -0.135V just to be sure. It seems perfectly stable at this value.

Multiple Cinebench runs at these settings show temps between 80°C and 85°C, always fixed at 4.7 GHz on all cores.

What do you think of these results ? Anything I can do to make it better or is it as good as it gets ?
Also, any particular way to make these settings stick everytime I power up the laptop ?

Thank you very much for all the help, I'm slowly getting to that sweet spot I'm looking for

 

Raise Core ICCMax to 255 amps to get rid of the VR current limit. This removes another limit as the cpu will only pull the power it needs.
You might need to adjust undervolt after this for stability.

Ideally you would set these values in the bios, as XTU and Clevo Control Center are terrible resource hogging.
4.7Ghz is a nice balance between performance and thermals for the 9900K in the p775.

As for getting it to as good as it gets, well that depends.
You can optimize your Windows install or go the extreme route with delidding etc.

O&O Shutup 10 and Easy service optimizer are great tools for quick debloating of Windows 10.

 

The Current/EDP limit only occurs when I launch the XTU integrated benchmark, it never pops up in any other benchmark so I might leave it like this for now but will take note of that advice if I encounter it later.
I won't be delidding or anything like that so.. I'm actually pretty happy with the settings right now.
I will need to test temps in real world usages now, such as gaming and music production. I'll post an update here !

Last thing, not sure if that's been answered or not since I have no knowledge of O&O and ESO but how do I make sure my XTU settings will stay the same after I reboot or shut down my computer ? Any quick way to make that happen ?
Thanks a lot man, you've been really helpful for real.

EDIT : oh and btw, it's the P751, I believe the 775 is the 17" version

 

If you have Clevo Control Center and XTU installed, they can override each others settings on startup. Try setting both programs to the same values or either only use one or the other.

 

I think the Clevo CC automatically changed its settings to match the ones I put in XTU, so I hope they'll both stay the same everytime I boot up.

 

Hey could you run Battlefield V on a 64 player map online and report back your temps?

I may get a 9900K to replace my 8086K.

They do save. Changing things in XTU results in those settings in the bios to be the same. I’ve never had a laptop do this before it is nice.

I can alter a overclock in XTU, restart my PC, go in my bios and see the exact same settings in my bios from XTU.

 

@tps3443 Well unfortunately it doesn't work for me, I have to change the settings everytime I boot up my computer.. which is going to be a pain.
Anyone has a solution for this ?
Also, I don't have BFV but I tried playing Star Wars Fallen Order for an hour at 1440p completely maxed out and my temps were between 70°C and 80°C, never exceeding the 80's. My undervolt currently sits at -0.125V, no overclock whatsoever for now. So I'd say it's a pretty good perf.
I did hit the current limit though, which I'll need to remove.

@jc_denton Dude, while playing Star Wars I could see the Riva Tuner hitting the power/current limit again, should I raise the Core ICCMax like you recommended ? Is it safe to do so ?

Also, something else. My monitor is supposed to be a 144 Hz but I can't use it past 60 Hz even though my graphic drivers are up to date.
In the Nvidia control panel, I can see my screen at 60hz in a native resolution of 3840x2160 which is odd to me since the laptop was advertised as having a 1920x1080 144hz screen with g-sync. Do you think they made a mistake and put a 4K screen instead ? I'm having a hard time making sense of this...

Thanks for the answers !

 

As mentioned, your CPU will only pull the current it needs. Temps might go up as you allow it to stretch it's legs more.

Try looking here, 144Hz option should be available.

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All right, I'll try raising the ICC in a minute.
But I'm starting to think PCSpecialist ****ed up and sent me a 4K screen, cause there's no way for me to access the 144Hz option.

 

I think you might be right about that. Can you download HWinfo64 and see what model the panel is? It's a quick way to determine if that indeed is 4k panel.

 

Yup, it's as you thought. 4K 60Hz panel.
http://www.panelook.com/LP156UD1-SPB1_LG Display_15.6_LCM_overview_26868.html

 

F u c k m e.
I'm actually mad right now.

 

I'd contact them ASAP, showing your order was for a 144hz 1080p panel and what you got was 4k 60hz one. Hopefully they can quickly sort you out.

 

They should ship it back and fitting it should not take long.

 

Just got an answer from them and RMA the laptop.
I'll keep you posted on that.
What I worry about the most is my 14-day retraction right, since it's only been 3 days since I've had my laptop, I don't know how this RMA is going to affect this. I need these extra days to stay the same when I receive it back, because I'm ****ed otherwise.

 

I don't think you have anything to worry about. You have a valid case, you ordered and paid for one thing but end up getting something entirely different.

 

They answered and said they would reset my 14 days when I receive the laptop back from RMA, which is a good thing.
I'll keep you posted, thank you

 

No problem, good thing you found out about this before it might have been too late.

 

Legally the cool offs start when you get the product you ordered.

 

My last laptop had a nice 4K G-Sync Pantone display. While it was beautiful, and games looked great. They just didn’t run as smooth or as fast as I like. I didn’t like running lower resolutions due to the stretching made things look kinda funny. With a GTX1070 I could average around 30-50FPS average usually. With minimums even lower.

I made sure this time I got a 1080P 144HZ G-Sync display. Which I run it overclocked at 154HZ perfectly fine! And, 1080P on 15.6” inches looks really good anyways. My GTX1080 puts down plenty of power to run all of the newest titles.

In BFV I average 115FPS everything maxed out on Ultra with TAA on. Minimums are like 89FPS and very few and far between.

This is my first high refresh rate display. And I love it!

The smoothness is just incredible. 1080P or 1440P is still the best resolution these days.

Homestly even if I had a RTX2080Ti and a desktop setup I’d want a 1080P 240HZ just for fun! Lol

 

1080p up to 1440p is a nice place to be for the 15.6"/16.1" displays.

 

240hz and up would be ideal for shooters.

 

Twitch shooters yes, matters less on the bullet sponge ones.

 

Consoles can keep that

 

Most shooters are spongy to be fair

 

My CS 1.6 doesn't feel spongy!

 

Most, not all

 

Talking about fast refresh screens, them 360hz laptop panels

 

Past 240hz I'm more worried about the other aspects like viewing angles and colour reproduction.

 

Have you had any hands on time with the 360hz panels since you're worried?

 

BFV feels pretty good. It’s really so smooth. You really can’t ask for a better gaming experience. It’s nice to average like 90fps-140fps.

 

No, it's not worry it's just irrelevant at that point so it's better to worry about other aspects of the display. Put a 360hz panel next to a 240hz and you are going to see no difference.

 

How are the temps looking in that with LM?