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    *** Official Clevo Sager NP9155 / P750TM-G / P751TM-G Owner's Lounge! ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Oct 6, 2017.

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    I still have not reapplied yet. I need to get a new set of screws for my heatsink. I don’t think they’ll make it another Round before giving out on the GPU area. One is already extremely chewed up.

    The temps were really good for a few days. And they are still pretty good now only slightly warmer.

    Running 5Ghz is pretty easy for stuff like R15 but, once you add in the GPU heat with CPU heat simultaneously in games like BFV 4.8Ghz is really my limit with 100% fans.

    What are the screw dimensions for the CPU and GPU?
     
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    Yeah a full system load over doubles your power consumption so it's going to get toasty :)
     
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    I need to modify the bottom cover some. It would be cool if they made a clear cover for these laptops with RGB slim fans. It’d be kinda like a desktop.
     
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    Yeah, today’s Unified heatsink doesn’t make it easier cool when you add double load.
     
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    No, their purpose is to lower idle and single component loads. It creates a larger delta between idle and load that then seems to confuse some people.
     
  6. jc_denton

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    I feel like we've had this discussion before. It really depends on the workload and components, if you have an overclocked 9900k paired with a OC'd gtx1080, you won't need a heater for winter :D The unified heatsink only shines when you pair it with one hot component and a cooler one. ie. 9900k w/ rtx2080. Allowing that extra heat to be dumped towards the gpu.
     
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    Have seen more than enough from Unified heatsink. Works ok with load on single hardware, once you put load on both the hot mess fire up. Just look at the modern Aliens. Happy when they run bench on the Cpu at 85C, once Gpu kick in they start to cry... And wonder why they suddenly seeing 100C :D
     
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    It's nice for single component temps its just not a crutch for all system load.
     
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    [​IMG]
     
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    We could get some unicorns engraved on the back of the lid with pink LEDs going down rainbow trails from their rear ends too ;)
     
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    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    You can't be serio-...

    Why wou-...

    That's jus-...

    [​IMG]
     
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    Yeah, what a disgusting idea. One thing for sure.... Spend more money on useless means something else has to suffer.
     
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    Just to see the look on your face of course!

    I did at one point look to get a design etched through the backing to let the backlight of the panel shine through in a bit better way than just a logo but decided against it for durability.
     
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    Well, you got a reaction! :D

    What design were you thinking about having made? There are already RBG's on the lid, so you have to color match backlight with them.
     
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    Some sort of dragon design on a machine that had a solid metal back ;)
     
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    Ah I see, I thought you were thinking about doing that to your Clevo.
     
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    I kinda see the clear laptop with flashing obnoxious light up LED's similar to seeing this if I look out at the sky at night...

    [​IMG]
     
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    Nah, this was a while back.
     
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    Most games are fine. But it is BFV that really kills these laptops with heat. That is my go to stability test and a fun game too. If it’ll run through BFV without crashing or throttling I’m good.
     
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    I'd be interested if you could log max temps w/ hwinfo64 for VRM and PCH during a BF:V session.
     
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    Where would you see VRM temps? My PCH maxes out at about 80C in BFV on auto fans.
     
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    Hwinfo.
     
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    My HWiNFO doesn't have it, that's why I asked.
     
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    I know the P870TM show it. Even my old Dm. Tried reset Hwinfo.ini file? And what version you run?
     
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    Yes tried reset. On latest HWiNFO 6.20. Maybe difference between P7 and P8?
     
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    Nope, definitely don’t have that “VR VCC Temperature” sensor in HWINFO. Maybe because I have an older BIOS, or an 8th gen CPU? Their number doesn’t seem accurate anyway. It’s constantly locked at around 50C, which is much too low for VRM especially under load.
     
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    Worked also on with my 8700K. I know it works because temp increase while running benchmarks. If it works properly on all models, I don’t know.
     
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    Sometimes it gets bugged, you'll need to right click on it > Layout settings > Restore Original Order. Sometimes it takes a few times and you need to restart the program.
     
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    Mine is locked at 50C too. Only messed with it for a minute last night.
     
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    Interesting, I'd imagine that AVX from BF:V would have strained them a little.
     
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    I run BFV for 2 hours a day usually at night time. And on the weekends I literally run the game from sun up to way on past sun down in the same server sometimes. This laptop sees some extreme heavy use with all day 100% fans.

    I will try to mess with it again tonight.

    anyways

    Last night I got my GTX1080 to hold 1,923MHz or 1,936Mhz at 0.944v-0.950V. I thought this was awesome.

    oh and it’s greyed out as if the temp is not working properly is what I meant.^
     
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    Did you try testing temps without the bottom cover? I'd imagine there are 5-10c improvement if you take the time to modify the bottom cover with a dremel.
     
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    Ive never tested it without the bottom panel.
     
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    Might be worthwhile testing since you're trying to get lowest possible temps at those speeds. In the end it's all the small optimizations that make a difference ;)
     
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    You can take the cover off and stick a huge fan blowing on it lol.
     
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    For benching perhaps, but modifying the bottom cover of the p7xx for increased airflow you get mobility+lower temps.
    The bottom cover has great impact on systems ability to cool from what I recall on my p775tm1. Not to mention the radiating heat is mostly trapped and recirculated.
    [​IMG]

    ( source of pic)
     
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    I did a lifting mod on mine rising it with ~5mm. Temps are much better, air intake has improved a lot.
    Also the bottom with the subwoofer mod looks much better, and sounds better in the 750dm2 model.
     
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    Cutting holes can actually trap more heat due to decreased pressure, it gets a bit complicated to map the airflow.
     
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    By that logic, taking the back cover off would result in higher temps (but it doesn't)
     
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    What subwoofer can I install in my laptop? Will it fit the P750TM1? I’ve put feet on mine already.


    [​IMG]
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    Depends on what hardware you talk about. ssd's, power delivery and PCH chips baked between MB and keyboard will suffer if you don't add more airflow as with (mod notebook cooler etc).
     
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    PCH chip is under the k/b and gets no airflow in the p7xxx as it doesn't have the go through vents that p8xxx has. From my testing with the p7xxx, the radiant heat from the 1080 increases the temps on everything when bottom cover is on. Mostly on the ssd/ram. As sata drives are in a separate compartment of the chassis.
     
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    I can't speak for P7 but some airflow being dragged around keyboard etc on many notebooks. See... not always need for vents in front as with the P8xxx series.
     
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    This is just from my experience with it, the PCH chip got 90-95c and sometimes even forced system shutdown. Only way it can get rid if the heat is through the 4mm thermalpad that connects PCH to metal undercarriage of the chassis. Problem is that 1080's VRM's are sending loads of heat through an interconnecting thermalpad into the motherboard and the PCH chip is close by that.
     
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    Say this was a house, you have two windows open, air flows through from one to the other, now you open a third window where air escapes, you now how two windows it leaves from, the flow near the first escape window is now less.

    You said this does not apply since if you remove the roof everything is colder.
     
  47. jc_denton

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    I get what you're saying. But I think we're talking about different things when it comes to modifying/cutting holes in the bottom panel. I'm talking about modifying the partially obstructed plastic vents, and turning most of the bottom panel into a mesh. But still keeping enough structural integrity for that cover. The mesh would have reduced pressure but a much better cooling solution.
     
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    Im going to put a thermal pad on mine. I remember it being super hot. But it hasn’t been that hot lately.
     
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    There is already a purple 4mm pad on the PCH, and you need complete teardown of the upper chassis to access it. I swapped it for a Gelid pad and it dropped max temps by ~5c.

    It's marked as part 9 on the top view

    [​IMG]
     
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    SIM card slot?!! I though cellular was only possible with a m.2 card with LTE installed. I wonder if my sager has this option.
     
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