*** Official Clevo W110ER / Sager NP6110 Owner's Lounge ***

varnado, I made a CS GO thread. Go check it out

 

Nice! I was wondering how well CS:GO would play on the 6110. Thanks!

 

geforce.com always cant find a driver for my 650m.

And if i do use any 304/305 beta driver, everything slows down on performance of my hard disk, nothing opens instantly like it should on an ssd.

 

I have received my order of the Toughpower Ultra Slim and although it says 95W, under the features list it says 'provides up to 120W peak power for your laptop computer'

It comes with 9 Interchangeable DC output tips that are colour coded for different manufacturers. The green connector lists Clevo (amongst 14 others) and fits perfectly.

It also comes with a soft carry bag that is big enough to fit two of them in or other accessories.

 

Thanks mate, where is it ? (link)

same here on my box but I don't think i5 ever goes beyond 90W, yet this is good for a quad cpu (e.g. 3610qm)

 

In the gaming section.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...s/683783-counter-strike-global-offensive.html

 

bump..........

 

Dont know of a way to, but most people use Fraps to record gaming.

 

https://www.google.fr/search?sugexp...hrome&ie=UTF-8&q=record+a+video+on+the+webcam

 

So helpful, I appreciate it.

 

Not sure about w110er, but in w150er the camera drivers also installs a small program to use the webcam.
If you have installed the drivers try to search for "webcam" in start menu.

btw, windows 8 already has a camera app.

 

I'm all out of popcorn!

Most of the sites do not show a major frame increase between 2 and 4 core CPU's if the game is GPU limited.

The W110 seem to handle the quads 45W TDP OK. My i5 X775 seems to run about 5C cooler than the SB quad models so IMHO my heatpipe is somewhat marginal for a 45W TDP load.

Are the i5/i7 heatpipes identical for the W110?

 

Installed Sleeping Dogs on my W110ER and it runs smoothly. At everything on High and 1366x768 it runs 51 FPS on average in the benchmark and during gameplay never dives below 32 FPS even in the most crowded places. I tried it without OC'ing my GPU and I use 302.71 nVidia drivers. Mind that increasing resolution to 1600x900 drops average FPS to 21.

 

Sweet! How's Sleeping Dogs? Heard that it's a bit like True Crime: Hongkong. Good to know it runs great on W110er at high settings!

 

Haha, right, it IS "a bit" like True Crime Hongkong %)

It's actually really good and well-polished. Unlike many sandbox games the emphasis here is on brawling rather than shooting (hence I recommend playing with a gamepad), which is a nice change - it's simple, but brutal and a lot of fun. And content-wise there seems to be plenty of stuff to do while the narration is entertaining and not as played-out as in many other sandboxes. Speaking of which, I've also started playing Saints Row 3 recently, but Sleeping Dogs easily took my attention over.

 

You can set AA and density to normal to get a good boost without any visual difference at native res.

 

Hi!, I will buy a new clevo with 3610qm and I don´t know if it´s neccesary to modify any parameters on the bios to have the best performance of my i7 and my gpu (I heard that turboboost dont work well when the dedicated gpu is working).

What´s the best version of the nividia´s drivers to have the best performance in the latests games?

Thanks for all

sorry for my bad english

 

hmmmm an observation, my machine can't sleep with the 1.2UV mod screen remains black when turned back on, it can sleep normally now with the 1.3 normal voltage BIOS. Perhaps GPU voltage too low for stable sleep?

 

It works really well at everything on high already, almost never goes below 42 FPS, plus I play on a 27" monitor, so I need all AA I can get with W110Er's native res.

 

Anyway to swap the 650m with a 680m? I am really hoping to output to 1440P when I get home or to the office.

 

The gpu is soldered on I'm afraid. And I don't think the w110er can handle power consumption of 680m. I could be wrong on this point.

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Does your laptop get really really hot with fans spinning all the time to keep it cool? It looks like a pretty demanding game.

 

Hmm, can't tell. My laptop is stationed kinda far from my couch and my monitor so I can't hear the fan. And with temperature HWinfo64 did show that CPU got to 90 at some point, but mostly it was around 80's. What might be making it better is that I keep my laptop on a pedestal of sorts, that keeps it's unblocked bottom fans about 4 inches above the desk.

 

The heat produced by the 680m might be more than what a single fan on the w110er can even handle. It can get up to 90C already I hear..

Although, I think the fan should at least stay on even when not playing games till the chassis/cpu temp is at 40-50C otherwise the chassis temp stays at 60-70C and it gets a bit uncomfortable, even when idling it gets that hot.
Seriously, screw silent operation as it can wait.

Annoying enough how the North bridge on this machine gets super hot even when one isn't even doing anything on the system.

 

Hi Guys,

i have a question, is it possible to run 3 screens (the internal and 2x 1080p screens) at the same time? I am considering buying this laptop and the only thing that concern me are the screen (tn lower-res) and the gaming performance on 1080p (Im coming from a 6990m m17x r3). Thanks with helping me!

 

Hey guys,

Though I consider myself to have more computer knowledge than the average person, I feel like a complete noob compared to you guys after reading through a few pages on this thread. I've really been wanting to buy this laptop but have had a hard time deciding between all the different distributing sites and what components I should actually get. I've been looking at Mythlogic, Eurocom, XoticPC, as well as a few others. My original thought was....

Intel Core i7-3610QM
16GB (2 x 8GB) , PC3-12800, 1600MHz SODIMM (Patriot)
Intel 240GB 520 Series SATA III 6Gb/s Solid State Drive Sandforce Powered

My main questions are:
If I pick one of the following CPU's, would there be a noticeable performance difference betweens these or the i7-3610 or would I be wasting my money becuase of the GT 650m bottle necking?(if it even does?)
- Intel Core i7-3720QM 2.6GHz, 6M L3
- Intel Core i7-3820QM 2.7GHz, 8M L3
- Intel Core i7-3920XM Mobile EXTREME Edition 2.7GHz, 8M L3

Also which would be better to get between the two? I've always thought more ram was better, but I've read that over 8GB is not really needed. If that's true, would the faster ram make a noticeable difference with performance or would I not be able to tell a difference at all?
- 16GB (2 x 8GB) , PC3-12800, 1600MHz SODIMM (Patriot)
- 8GB (2 x 4GB) , PC3-14900, 1866MHz SODIMM

And which wireless card?
- Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6235 2*2 802.11 a/g/n + Bluetooth V4.0 350MB Total Bandwidth
- KILLER WirelessN 1202 - Designed for the best wireless gaming, HD video and audio experience

Any help would be appreciated and sorry for the noob questions. Thanks fellas.

 

1080p is borderline playable on low-medium settings in most recent games. I use an external 1680x1050 monitor and in some cases it works at max res med-high settings (e.g., de3hr, me3, skyrim), while in others it does not (bf3, from the little I have seen - but I have an Ivy dual-core).

look for something else (at least the latest m14x, or a regular 15-incher with GT650M w/ DDR5 memory) if you aim at 1080p - and even that will not last you for long.

 

@HTWingNut: I tested BF3 with the i5-3320m, as promised. All I could do was finish the first train mission and get to the second one (apparently the first "real" mission).

Moving around in the big city street (as you get out of the chopper), I get

1366x768 - standard medium detail: hovering between 20 and 28 fps
1680x1050 - standard high detail: hovering between 34 and 46fps

Everything stock (latest UV bios). If you send me a savegame I can try a scene of your choosing, otherwise I have lost patience with the same already.

 

You can connect two screens to it from the get go, but you can only run two out of three at the same time. Obviously you can choose which two.

It's easy to underestimate the screen, but for 11 inches 1366x768 is just right, unless you use a magnifying glass. Of course the screen is small in general, but there is something aesthetically cool about playing a modern game like Shogun 2 or Skyrim on High settings on basically what looks like a netbook.

Increasing resolution to 1080p or 1600X900 decreases performance significantly. In Total War: Shogun II benchmark average FPS in native resolution on High settings is around 45 I think, while in 1080p it goes down to 17.

Sleeping Dogs Maxed out at native res. runs 51 average FPS in benchmark, while on 1600x900 it drops to 21.

 

Interesting. What temps are you seeing with your i5? Did you swap out an i7?

I'm going to order next month so lurking around to see what's shaking.

TIA

 

What will you be doing with your new laptop? If just gaming, here is what I would suggest. Stick with 3610qm. 8gb will be plenty as you can upgrade down the road. 1600mhz is plenty fast, and the 1866mhz does not add enough juice to justify the cost (benchmarks show 10-15%). Also, unless you're using igpu the faster RAM won't do much as far as response goes. I would get 16gb 1600mhz vs 8gb 1866mhz if they are same or similar price.

Do you have an excellent router at home? And how's about your modem? Unless you have the hardware that will allow you to take advantage of higher speeds, the stock or Intel card is will be good. However, the killer card comes with fancy software that allows you to monitor which programs use how much bandwidth. I have the 1103 myself and it is faster than what I'm used to. Deep down it is just an atheros card

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Similar temps to what everyone is reporting here with i7's. With prime95+furmark I get ~97*C for the processor and ~*95*C for the GPU in a very hot room, everything stock.

I got the CPU before people here tested the i5's and I did it in part because I hoped for better temps. No luck, it seems.

I have to admit this is rather annoying - I work with the W110 a lot on the lap - and I would be willing to go for a weaker processor if it decreased the temps substantially. One of these days I will test with a Sandy Celeron or Pentium processor, provided I find one that goes beyond 2GHz... Who knows, maybe that will be cooler, especially since it has SpeedStep as well as idle states...

 

Thanks for the reply man! I would mainly use it for gaming, so I'll probably just use the info you gave me as outline. Question though, why wouldn't one want to get one of the better processors? Would it not make much of a difference in gaming because the GPU would be what's bottle necking or is there another reason? Also, would there legit reason for someone needing one of those better processors for this laptop?

Sorry for all the stupid questions, This is just something I've been curious about and never really understood.

 

Those aren't stupid questions.

For gaming, you will be bottlenecked by gpu, especially the 650m, before the 3610qm ever gets maximized. You'd get by with an I7 dual core at this point in time in for most games.

Why get upgraded CPU? Some people use these machines as their main work machine. Running virtual machines, working with video, photos, Adobe tools, CAD, matlab, etc etc.
But for gaming, you'll be more than good with 3610qm.

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The 650m is soldered to the motherboard. The entire NP6110 system will use less power (~ 90W) peak than the 680m alone (~ 100W), not to mention the 680m card with heatsink, etc is about the same size as the NP6110 motherboard... So the simple answer is no. You can output at 1440p if you'd like for desktop use, just don't expect to game at that resolution with the 650m.

Thanks for feedback but I'm testing 64 person multiplayer, and for comparison using Caspian Border since that's what I used originally. But it is good to know about your results. Seems BF3 is a stickler for quad cores. And I'm assuming you accidentally switched around your FPS between the resolutions because I don't see FPS being higher at higher detail than at lower detail and resolution?

Unless you plan on doing a lot of video encoding then get the 3610QM. 8GB is more than sufficient unless you plan on running multiple Virtual Machines or dealing with massive Photoshop files, but you likely wouldn't be using this laptop for those things. Faster RAM really doesn't help with much of anything except a slightly more responsive system. With Prema's BIOS mods you can overclock stock RAM to as high as 2400MHz if your RAM can take it. The 1.35V Samsung RAM seems to be the most successful at doing so.

Personally, I don't think the Killer card is worth the extra money. Intel has a good connection, good driver support, and in general much better than the crap cards that come in most other laptops.

 

I live in a 25C area, what is a "very hot room", LOL. Our control van gets shut down if the AC quits, not fun.

My SU7300 will hit 90C, in OC, but I get to use Throttle Stop to tame the heat. No difference using ICD-7 or AS5 during re-pastes.

I guess this is the curse of many single fan wonders including my X-775-i5.

I love how the new GPU's really seem to have the heat under control but the SB and later CPU's really cook, so to speak.

Oh well, it's looking more like the i7 but plan to keep the AC and laptop cooler running during games :thumbsup:

Thx, +1

 

Yep, I switched the numbers, sorry.

As for dual-vs-quad FPS, I am not really surprised by the numbers - provided BF3 is quad-core optimized. I remember that in quad-core-optimized rendering benchmarks the weakest Nehalem (720QM) was more than 2x faster than the fastest Arrandale (640M) - despite a very substantial frequency disparity in favor of the latter.

 

Well, those numbers were in a 26-7*C room with no air movement, no a/c (off on purpose).

And yes, the Intel PCH sticks out as a poorly cooled part...

 

lol it sounds you live in a giant toaster mate ) did you try Prema's Bios mod. The newest version supports fan control...

 

I had around 30° in my home for the last week, while trying to keep it fresh, and I'm not in a hot country !
Are you all guys from north usa ? I say north, because I always assumed that south was hotter than france, where I live...
Try south america or africa, if you want to feel a very hot room

 

True story

40 *C yesterday in Turkey.. my laptop went insane 79 *C

 

You can always disable Turbo (Prema Bios) for slightly lower maximum CPU temps and that may also reduce the GPU temps since they are sharing a single fan.

 

I am also quite jealous when I read, what some users reported here as "hot rooms". I've had 34°C in my apartment several times this year.

 

oh, but I live in south-eastern europe (romania), and temps outside are 41*C in bucharest these days (and a few weeks ago as well); I've had as much as 33*C inside; it's just that those results were produced in a 26-27*C room

turbo disabled already... I wish I could undervolt the CPU as well...

 

haha I wish here was warm like your country. I hope to see some more sunny days before the crazy winter of northern Europe starts, now it is 9c outside

cpu idle temp hovering between 30-40c

 

outside, I guess!?

 

No inside I have already posted my temps several times in here (HWiNFO screen-shots). btw room temp is 19c

 

Either this or the in-game recorder.

But I would personally advice to use the MSI Afterburner recorder, as it almost does not interfere with FPS nor the game

 

There is no need for Prema Bios. It's easier to create e new power plan (copied from balanced or high-performance) and follow this guide to disable turbo: http://www.tautvidas.com/blog/2011/04/disabling-intel-turbo-boost/
This way you can switch easily between turbo on or off without needing to go to bios or 3rd party applications (like throttlestop)

 

@dvdpt

I would think most pretty much use power plans for surfing and such. Ballanced mode does wonders for my dinky i5. With cooler on low, laptop fans are off on x775.

Reading these posts, I gather people would like a max of 80C while gaming or when brick placed on top of accelerator pedal, like benching, which is worst case?