*** Official Clevo X170SM-G/Sager NP9670M Owner's Lounge ***

I would also like to be added. Thanks

 

Everything is for sale! There are radiators and video cards.Painted over so that they would not be considered an advertisement!

 

Where?

 

In China

 

What website or online store has these in stock? I don't think I have been able to locate any in the last 2 weeks or so. But these are available in China on ground, that's true. But it won't matter to people living outside China unless these are available with some online retailer.

 

Has anyone here has tried to OC their i9-10900k in clevo laptop with Prema Custom BIOS by BIOS or Intel Extreme Tuning Utility? I would like to see some results from specifications that you have used in XTU or BIOS. I will get my new X170KM-G from hidevolution in a week and i wanted to prepare myself for overclocking this beast machine as good as I can Maybe someone else is using the same machine right now (liquid metal on CPU).

 

I too would like to purchase another heatsink unit, I kinda need it + the new screws

 

What is the difference between the x170sm-g and x170km-g heat sinks? From the looks they both appear to be exactly identical.

 

They are very different 1. X-brecket has been resized. 2. The RAM chips are moved closer to the GPU chip. 3. Some elements of the printed circuit board are located in other places (throttles and mosfets)

 

Do you happen to have a comparison somewhere? I am thinking of upgrading the motherboard and GPU alone since the chassis is pretty much the exact copy of x170sm-g. But it depends upon whether I can find the parts. Otherwise will just wait it out until next gen.

 

I have already laid out photos of the cards of the 30th series, but look, I think you will understand everything.

 

Oh wow, that's a lot of changes! Those chokes look beefy AF on the 3080. I wonder how it will perform with the shunt mod. So I guess I will order a new heat sink, a mobo and a gpu. Everything else I will use over. That is, if I can find these parts separately at all!

 

Also, to install a radiator for the 30 series of video cards in the x170sm, you will need to file the case a little from one corner.

 

Yeah I expect modifications will need to be made accordingly but I think I can handle it. That is no biggie.

 

Most importantly, they are not afraid to change anything, because only then can you see the difference.))))

 

no but seriously, i do need a new heatsink + screws for my sm, would it be possible to get the link to said website?

 

With so many changes you may want to consider to sell your SM-G instead and get a new KM-G - with the right price for the old one it may turn out cheaper.

 

How much is the correct price? At the moment in China people are selling their used X170SM at a very reasonable price, if you search you can buy a complete laptop of 1200-1500 $

 

Good question, I guess the math is:

difference between selling his SM-G and buying the KM-G

vs

selling his old GPU, mainboard and heatsink and buying a new GPU, mainboard and heatsink for the KM-G.

I would think that prices in Europa will be a lot higher - I have seen P775 based XMG Ultra with the 2080 going for more than 2000$ recently so judging by that the X170 SM-G with Prema bios and the 2080 Super should fetch considerably higher prices.

Would you have a link to an SM-G in the price range you mention?
Seems very low to me but maybe the GPU and other parts are such that one would want to replace them anyway?

 

I would gladly give you links to these products, but this is impossible, since this is a closed trading platform for sellers and you need to have access to it. It works like this, people pass the goods on commission or exchange the old model for new ones with additional payment in specialty stores, these products are entered into the system and all sellers with access can see the products on offer, as well on the net, there are dealers of new products of different brands.

 

Hmm. . .kinda disappointed to hear it’s not just a pull the GPU out and put in another one. Atleast it’s possible. But I’m getting Area 51m vibes all over again.

 

It's a non well thought out upgrade path they choose to use. File here, file there, spend on heatsink here and on gpu there. Also hope for a compatible bios over there.

Same as Dell, i call this sidegrading possible not upgrading.

 

Yeah that’s exactly how I feel. Well I’ll enjoy the X170 until it’s obsolete and skip out on DTR in the future if I can’t upgrade them like I want too.

I’ll just have to reach out to brother @DaMafiaGamer next time I upgrade to see what he has his eyes set on.

 

Would you be willing to handle trading for a fee? Or better yet help us gain access to this trading platform?

 

I definitely agree with you regarding the profitability of such an upgrade (buying a new 30-series radiator + buying a 30-series video card) at the moment, if the radiator is not so expensive ($ 250), then a new 30-series video card is unreasonably expensive ($ 3080- $ 1700, $ 3070 -1500 $), but this will not always be the case, you need to wait a bit until the situation with a shortage of components returns to normal, prices will fall, and then you can think about such a modification again.

 

I can’t give access to the site, I’m not solving this issue. Regarding trade, it will not be entirely profitable for you in terms of delivery + customs and it turns out that the final price may be unprofitable for the order.

 

Yeah that is way more than I’d be willing to spend. Selling mine and upgrading to the new one would make a lot more sense. But if that’s how it’s going to be then why bother with a DTR? I don’t need to upgrade thankfully. The enthusiast in me is just being a little devil on my shoulder telling me to do it.

 

Now it's just the start of sales + a shortage of GPU chips + mining, all this has left a bold imprint on the formation of the price tag, but this will not always be the case and the price of the 30 series graphics will return to normal, I think the prices will be at the same level as the 20 series cards before the price jump.

 

Possibly. I just have a feeling it’ll be like the Area 51m where they offered the upgrade kits for a very short time and discontinue them. So I’ll keep an eye out for sure. Just not getting my hopes up.

 

I will say going from 200W 2080 Super to the castrated 3080 mobile isn't an real upgrade. If the coming 4000 series card can't be used then go for a desktop. Pure and simple.

 

Or you can make your own DTR. That'll be a fun project.

It's actually something I've been thinking about doing for the past 5 years. I've never actually gone through with it though since I've never been pushed to. DTRs are super convenient since all the work is done for you.

I've mentioned this in the past to other forum members. It'll definitely be something I share if I just get completely fed up with laptops. Most likely I'll keep looking for excuses to keep buying laptops since I like the portability factor so much, and I can use them whenever I want, wherever I want.

I've been keeping track of those of you who are the utmost mobile performance enthusiasts. You can bet I will be mentioning you guys so you'll come around and take a look. You know who you all are.

 

Home portability is key for me. To me a DTR is useful because I stow it away when I don't need it (and my wife hates the look of a PC in the living room) and I open it up where I want: at my desk, at the coffee table when watching a movie, in the bedroom or near the bathtube... Can't do that with a desktop and peripherals.

 

Your wishes are rightfully yours, but laws of physics mostly dictate the size of the machine if it is supposed to match with the performance of a Desktop.

 

Pascal MXM plus my desktop 8700K was very close though, especially if you don't mind loud fans when gaming.

 

The fans are a major fail. Even when not gaming, my P870 temp would spike above the fan profile. Even with headphones, you can still make out the sound of the fans. Only time I hear my GPU fan now is when I'm benchmarking and I have the GPU fan in MSI Afterburner set to max above a certain temp. Otherwise, I keep my fans on silent.

 

So that’s who I saw in my window the other night.

This honestly would be a really fun project. With 3D printing being as easy and accessible as it is this could be possible. Question are there any high refresh qhd screens that are 24” or smaller? Start with a mount for the monitor in a suitcase like enclosure and the rest could fall into place as far as thickness and such goes.

Dang it now you got me thinking about it.

 

I was thinking more of mounting a portable 144 Hz screen on a prefab metal chassis. I want this to fit in an 18 inch laptop bag.

To answer your question, yes there are high refresh rate QHD screens less than 24". The ones I've seen are 17 inch 144 Hz 1440p portable monitors. Pm me if you'd like to hear my master plan.

Edit: A nice DIY laptop for everyone's viewing pleasure: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/diyer-builds-bootleg-amd-threadripper-laptop

I'm sure this is what we all wanted the Clevo X170 to be.

 

Just orderd a 1080p 144hz display to change out my 4k 60 panel. Wish me luck when i go to change it out. I think i should have got a weat band at the same time haha.

The 144hz display on my Triton and 120hz of my samsung 49" CGR90 and Nitro have and ruined me !
I find myself getting eye strain now when i use it for an extended period. Even my iPhone display looks like a slideshow to me now !

 

Yeah the same thing happened to me when I swapped the 60 Hz panel on my Ranger for a 120 Hz panel. I can't go back and now require all games to run at 120 fps. I can't enjoy them if they don't because they all look really laggy under 100 fps. 60 fps is not smooth anymore to me.

 

When I open Throttlestop to performance instead of silent profile and then I set fans to max I rather get this vibe:

 

TDPs have shot up since then.

 

And mobile TGPs have gone down.

 

CPU TDPs yes, top GPUs were reduced. And let's recall two 1080s in SLI were possible...

Edit @yrekabakery beat me to it

 

Pro tip: if you can't be bothered to lock your phone, just wirelessly lock it by putting it on the left of the touchpad face-up

 

Not in desktop land which is what we are comparing to.

 

That's why mobile and desktop graphics performance have been diverging, since desktop TGPs have gone up but mobile TGPs have gone down.

 

And chip sizes for the xx80 series have been going up too along with memory width.

 

And we could still get 200W 3080 mobile as pif nvidia or the OEMs bother do it. The 150w+ tag is a Joke. Why not just put it 80-165W ? The 150W+ meant something before. Now its more as a Joke.

 

Guarantee you that if RDNA2 had not been as competitive as it is, x80 would've been 104 again instead of 102.

 

I wonder if the radeon series will get mobile chips like back in the day with the 8970. I've seen 6800xt is their top offer but I wonder if they will release in a module not built in to the board. I'm assuming the performance will be a bit better then a 2080 super but will cost significantly less. It has 12gb vram. I think the memory speed is faster