*** Official Clevo X170SM-G/Sager NP9670M Owner's Lounge ***

It's more demand is way up, supply is up but demand is up more.

 

I look forward to never being able to pay sane prices for GPUs again, even when this current shortage is over.

 

You won't have to if you stick to 1080p for the rest of all time and eternity.

1080p already looks really good, especially on laptop panels since the pixel density is already really high at 1080p on a screen 17 inches in size or smaller.

You'd still need to upgrade after a certain amount of time, but you could skip multiple GPU generations and be fine with only xx60 class cards.

These are the two main reasons I don't plan on ever moving past 1080p. For one, I don't need to drastically increase my GPU compute power requirements because I don't want to pay ridiculous amounts of money on GPUs that meet my needs. Secondly, 1080p looks good enough to me.

 

It's not even about the resolution, but about a modern feature set. I'd like to experience Metro Exodus Enhanced, CP2077, and Control with ray tracing, which is even possible at high frame rates with DLSS. A GTX 1080 doesn't it cut anymore at 1080p either if the target is 120Hz. My next system is gonna be a desktop and I want to upgrade to 1440p or ultrawide as well. I can't remember the last time I liked an x60 class card. The best price-to-performance over time option is usually x60 Ti or x70 class, since x60 usually has dealbreakers like too little VRAM or memory bandwidth, or just being too cut down/lacking in compute power, to be relevant for more than a couple years after release.

 

Ok, so Scan sent me a copy of the v1.07.04 BIOS update package for my X170SM-G but... not a single word of documentation on how to flash the BIOS to the laptop.
It's not as simple as most laptops where you just get a Windows flash program and a .bin file.
There's a folder called "ALL" with a load of files.
Seems like you might be able to do it in Windows with the batch files or create a UEFI bootable USB and then do it using the efi files or nsh files or something.
The detailed user manual that came on CD with the machine just says "load the updated BIOS" as it's sole instruction O_0
Anyone here actually updated the BIOS on this machine and can give / point me at some proper instructions, please?

The directory contents look like:
07/05/2021 21:30 <DIR> .
07/05/2021 21:30 <DIR> ..
07/05/2021 15:56 14,971 Checksum.exe
07/05/2021 15:56 950 CkME.nsh
07/05/2021 15:56 13,856 CkMEver.efi
07/05/2021 15:56 24 EOL.NSH
07/05/2021 15:56 22 EOLTEST.NSH
07/05/2021 15:56 36 EOLTESTWIN64.bat
07/05/2021 15:56 40 EOLWIN64.bat
07/05/2021 15:56 480 FLASHALL.nsh
07/05/2021 15:56 242 FlashALLWinX64.bat
07/05/2021 15:56 471 FLASHME.nsh
07/05/2021 15:56 1,930 FlashMEWinX64.bat
07/05/2021 15:56 15,153 fparts.txt
07/05/2021 15:56 2,916,800 Fpt.efi
07/05/2021 15:56 3,178,064 FPTW64.exe
07/05/2021 15:56 90,688 Idrvdll32e.dll
07/05/2021 15:56 2,623,488 InsydeDCHU.dll
07/05/2021 15:56 122,512 ISHLib64.dll
07/05/2021 15:56 2,728,736 MEInfo.efi
07/05/2021 15:56 21 MEINFO.NSH
07/05/2021 15:56 15 MEINFOWIN64.bat
07/05/2021 15:56 2,973,272 MEInfoWin64.exe
07/05/2021 15:56 2,820,832 MEManuf.efi
07/05/2021 15:56 3,116,632 MEManufWin64.exe
07/05/2021 15:56 12,416 MeSet.efi
07/05/2021 15:56 125,504 Pmxdll32e.dll
07/05/2021 15:56 2,720 uForcePowerOff.efi
07/05/2021 15:56 4,358 vsccommn.bin
07/05/2021 15:56 330,622 VSCCommn_bin Content.pdf
07/05/2021 15:56 9,216 WCHKSUM.exe
07/05/2021 15:56 26,112 WMeset.exe
07/05/2021 15:56 16,777,216 X170SM.04
07/05/2021 15:56 19,399,077 X170SM04.efi
07/05/2021 15:56 20,042,749 X170SM04.exe

 

I ask this because I'm getting on aida64 cpu stress test + time spy extreme gpu test 2 looping, around 73 74 C for gpu, and 93 94C for the cpu, the former either stock or overclocked doesn't change much, the latter is stock but undervolted (-0.93mv) , is this normal for the cpu especially? seems kinda high for LM

 

1080p 120Hz (Not a solid 120FPS but well over 60) with the right detail tuning can certainly be achieved on the 1080.

 

120 FPS target implies a solid or close to locked 120.

 

Not really required to get a nice benefit over 60 Hz.

 

Ymmv ofc. I start to notice when it drops below 100.

 

Guys, is there a good reason why there still no 3080 version of this beast?

 

Wdym?

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/official-clevo-x170km-g-sager-np9672m-owners-lounge.835639/

 

Sorry, i was blind

 

Hi!
Is there an active member who owns an SM with the 300 hz GSync screen ?

 

That's where g-sync comes into its own imo.

 

It’s moreso the lack of smoothness in the animations and camera movement, and the input lag, which G-Sync doesn’t solve.

 

It does help smooth it out, sounds like you are particularly sensitive to it.

 

I've become spoiled by 120Hz, it's true.

 

So long as I am between 90 and 120FPS I certainly don't feel too bad, in unoptimized games like cyberpunk at 1440p I can still play at 55fps.

 

What settings at 1440p? When I tried 1440p via DSR I had to lock to 30 for consistency. Even at the lowest settings, it was nowhere near 60 at 1440p, and the game looked terrible.

 

A mix of medium/low. Looks about as good as this game is going to

 

I was gifted a alienware m17 r4 lol. 10870h with 3080 16gb 32gb 2933mhz memory 4tb nvme space....bga filth in my @Papusan voice lol. I still have my x170sm which I'm going to convert to a km via heatsink and 3080 upgrade soon.

 

Sell it and put away the money for a later 3080 upgrade. The faster you can rid of it, the better

 

What do you mean by converting it to km

 

KM heatsink and Ampere graphics (3080). You need the KM heatsink for 3000 series mobile graphics cards.

 

im gonna purchase the km heatsink and someone gifted me a 3080 so i can turn my x170sm into a x170km

 

Who ever this someone is you can send them my way.

 

Apparently 3080 Card should be in stock 5/19/21 in most clevo resellers but only for Systems not individual sale.

 

I guess I'll have to keep my eyes on ebay in the near future. Always have that itch to tear my machines apart and upgrade them.

 

If people are tearing apart systems to sell those cards those cards will have a huge premium on them.

 

Oh I’m not getting my hopes up. But ya never know when someone that actually sells something at a reasonable price.

 

It's a crazy world at the moment.

 

No one ?

 

@JCordero31 Don't you have a 300 Hz screen on your SM-G? Does it have G-sync or no?

 

I believe he custom installed the 300 hz panel and lost Gsync in the process.

 

I don't think it's a verified panel do that can't exist yet.

 

The one that I received from HIDEvolution in the beginning had a 300Hz screen and it had GSync enabled.

 

Did you get the model of it?

 

It was an AUO B173HAN05.1 panel and the laptop was X170SM-G with an RTX 2080 Super. Tremendous shame though that the motherboard went out on it on the same day that it arrived.

 

ugh.. what?

3080 mobile uses samsung 8nm and only barely better than a 2080super thats on 12nm?

is power the limiting factor here? wasn't the shrink a pretty massive one?

 

Nvidia and the OEM thought cripple the TGP from 200W to 150w+15w dynamic boost was a great ida. Doesn’t matter if the model was engineered for 200W graphics. See… 3080 mobile = castrated.

 

Chip sizes are still huge, the Samsung node is just not as good as TSMC.

 

I own one no g stink

 

3080 card was delayed for me now June 11. Homeboy got 5 cards but they were sold at a 2000 usd price. He made 10k

 

Depends on what they got the cards for I suppose.

 

Is it possible to run the X170SM-G with Linux? I am a Linux newbie and was wondering if all the drivers for the X170SM-G are available for Linux?

Cheers!

 

I am looking at either this machine or the KM

Which is better?

i9-10900k with 2080 super or
i9-11900k with 3080

I will get it from ztec pc no matter what

 

some have done it in the past, there are posts about it in this thread iirc

 

I'd wager the former, to be honest

 

I am still getting over 90C CPU with liquid metal on both cpu and gpu with full combined load (aida64 cpu+cache and timespy gpu test), with honestly identical results to thermal paste(gpu temps are stupid low as usual ofc) , am I doing something wrong?