*** Official Clevo X170SM-G/Sager NP9670M Owner's Lounge ***

Yes. 240hz, 2080s, and 10900k

 

When did you place your order?

 

i ordered the same spec but havent received any updates yet when did you order?

 

Damn, I will be waiting for sure until RTX 3000, 11th-gen, Mini LED models lol

 

I order last month when preorders were available. I also got rush processing

 

Mine arrived today and I am working through all the new pc configuration. Really need to figure out how to disable these flashing RGB lights on the sides as they're very distracting. A friend let me use his spare PG278Q monitor so I'm using it as my primary display at the moment. If you guys tell me to run I'll gladly install whatever software and send the results on the built in 1080p display.

Laptop Specs:
SPECIAL 9670M SPECIAL PACKAGE
NB9670B20M 17.3" FHD/IPS/144Hz/N7/MATT 8K07SC162426
CG-TGK Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut on CPU+GPU
D-I710700K Core i7 10700K Processor
V9670-2080S nVIDIA RTX 2080 Super W/G-Sync
R4-32G-1C32 C/S 32G 3200DDR4 (1x32)

Edit: I removed the part of my post about the WiFi not detected as there was no WiFi card installed. I imagine when I requested a custom quote it was not part of the build out so it was not included. So nothing wrong from the vendor there was something wrong with me

 

I just feel like this is unacceptable from a quality stand point how do they not check a 3000$ rig to be sure everything is seated well before selling


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So there's no WiFi card installed. I guess when I sent off my quote since I didn't specify the card it wasn't included. So my mistake I'll order a card and put it in.

 

Thanks sir. +reps.

From what I have seen from div tech websites... Intel originally developed/engineered Comet lake S with PCIE-4.0 support in mind. Hence most of the desktop MB manufacturers added in the specs for their MB design and continued to finalize their MB. It was later in the developement that Intel discovered problems as noise and changed mind and stopped at PCIE-3.0 support.

Do you think, or mean Clevo finalized the MB design - then started up MB production with Intel's final specs after they threw out the ban hammer for PCIE-4.0 support? This isn't cleared up. And from what we know before... Clevo skipped MB and latest chipset refresh for 9th gen Intel chips. This because it was acost saving question. The big question is if Clevo want to refresh a new MB and chipset for Rocket this time. I doub't it for only a short refresh. If so... No PCIE-4.0 support for X170 series notebooks before we see 1700 socket and Alder lake late 2021/22.

Drivers for X170 is up on XMG's servers - XMG ULTRA 17 (ID: XUL17M20)

Edit.
Manual-User_XMG_ULTRA_17_XUL17M20.pdf

 

Awesome, thank you

 

Oh I ordered end of June but didn’t get rush processing hopefully mine ships soon

 

How does the 2080 super compare to like the 2070 super I’m wondering if we are seeing diminishing returns. I haven’t seen enough benchmarks on this rig for a fair comparison yet. I’m hoping that it destroys a 2070 super especially at another 75 watts and more cores


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Should be about 25% faster.

 

Guys, where does the information that the X170 has 4 speakers and 2 subs come from?
I checked with the resellers and apparently it's 2 speakers and 1 subs.

 

I think some media outlets misinterpreted one of the leaked slides.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Clevo...ke-S-10-core-desktop-grade-CPUs.453755.0.html

From here, the slide labeled "improved speakers" shows 4 speakers and 2 subs, but one 2.1 system is for the P775 and the other 2.1 system is for the X170.

 

The user manual states 2x3w speakers + 1x5w sub

 

I see.

Also, just wanted to ask, has anyone gotten the laptop yet, or is everyone waiting on the delivery still?

 

You can start reading from pg. 158 for some reviews and impressions.

I ordered mine two days ago as of this post, so I'll be lucky if I can get mine before the end of August.

 

Question about the double power brick: does it have two separates plugs that need two separate sockets? I don't suppose they merge into one cable and become a single plug to fit into a single socket, right?

 

The User Manual for X170 is posted here http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...m-owners-lounge.831618/page-161#post-11037943

Two power inlet. You can probably use the bigger 780w adapter when it comes with custom made connectors.

 

Alright guys I went ahead and bought 3DMark on Steam and ran the 4 benchmarks. Let me know if the links don't work they load for me in an incognito window so I imagine they're public facing.

Time Spy - https://www.3dmark.com/spy/13323728

Port Royal - https://www.3dmark.com/pr/292502

Fire Strike - https://www.3dmark.com/fs/23244953

Sky Diver - https://www.3dmark.com/sd/6017275

This is with the i7, 2080 Super, 32GB RAM, and EVO Plus. I'm running Windows 10 1909 and closed all apps I could to free up the CPU/RAM. The only thing running is steam, 3dmark, and cortex security software. The Control Center has it running in Performance mode and I let the fans automatically adjust themselves during the tests.

On a side note, can anyone tell me why the Control Center software scales so weird on my screen? https://imgur.com/msc6rdW

 

I did a repaste with a temporary cooler master paste I had until the kryonaut comes. No luck anyway, still thermal throttling under aida stress + furmark. The control centre still refuses to apply the light profile on boot, and power consumption is still hovering on 360 watts regardless of what I do to the power limits.

 

Anyone who received their laptop, can you do a decibel-phone test with laptop off, idle, browsing, load and post the values?
Thanks.

 

Dont run furmark unless you want some grilled GPU VRMs, its not a realistic load at all..

 

I have an iPhone 8+ if you give me the name of an app that will do this I can install it and give it a try for you. I have it in performance mode and don't hear anything from the fans during normal use but the A/C in my house runs all day during August so maybe it drowns out the sound? I have yet to play a game, I just ran the 3DMark tests above and it sounded like a jet engine during that lol.

 

it doesn't change much without it anyway, -90mv offset, stock PLs and max fans gives high 80s low 90s tops. It cannot handle these power targets, not with this thermal paste / cooling setup anyway, maybe kryonaut will help alleviate the situation

 

So an optimized P775TM with a GTX 1080 has a stronger Fire Strike score than a standard X170SM with a RTX2080S. I'm not upgrading yet...

 

Has anyone here who ordered from HID gotten their laptops yet? I’m curious as to whether granular keyboard LED control is possible out of the box, or whether it needs a specific app or driver.

 

What P775TM with 6 cores and 1080 have better Fire Strike score? Please post the link. Thanks

Edit.
The nearest is the old P870TM

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/23244953/fs/14517851

The only Turing Mobile offer over 1080 mobile is the RT cores and slightly increased performance. And the Super naming is more as Scam. Doesn’t bring much on the table vs standard 2080. A modest 10% increased performance at best.

From the link...

Conclusion
The results for the new Super Turing GPUs were, in our opinion, not very super. While the RTX 2070 Super is, in ideal circumstances, up to 20% better than the RTX 2070 (though 10% is more realistic), the RTX 2080 Super can only set its performance apart from the RTX 2080 by a maximum of 10% when using models that have the same TDP.

 

not yet they emailed me and said there is a processor shortage its gonna be another 2 weeks delay probably

 

When did you order yours? That should give me a nice ballpark estimate for when I’ll get mine

 

these are the benchmarks for the alienware area 51m R2 hopefully the x170 can beat or match it with similar specs
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/alienware-area-51m-r2-review-by-spartan.833709/

 

Yeah the Intel CPU production limitations are still there.

 

I went ahead and downloaded OpenHardwareMonitor and tried to recreate the screenshots you linked in that Alienware thread. I ran the FireStrike and TimeSpy demos/benchmarks and also downloaded and ran Cinebench. I did one run with the fans just set to performance and then did another run with the FN + 1 fans set to max. Below are the screenshots and links to the 3dmark results pages.

Here they are compared but the Alienware has the i9 and my Sager has the i7

Code:

            Alienware   Sager (Fans Max)   Sager (Fans Performance)
Cinebench   6,306       4,841              4,815
Firestrike  24,515      23,263             22,735
Time Spy    11,559      10,728             10,651

FireStrike in Performance Mode
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/23246728
https://i.imgur.com/PRWW1Sd.jpg

FireStrike with Fans set to Max
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/23246805
https://i.imgur.com/eA40xzq.jpg

TimeSpy in Performance Mode
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/13328260
https://i.imgur.com/EJmM3bb.jpg

Timespy with Fans set to Max
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/13328327
https://i.imgur.com/eGpeKwp.jpg

Cinebench in Performance Mode
https://i.imgur.com/GSwrnVg.jpg

Cinebench with Fans set to Max
https://i.imgur.com/LPmu3uu.jpg

Edit: I just realized the graphs aren't showing the right data at the bottom I'm sorry

 

I downloaded an app called NISOH SLM on my iPhone that measures sound level. The laptop is sitting on my desk 8 inches from the wall so there's adequate space all around it. See this picture: https://i.imgur.com/4xozihM.jpg

I put the phone face up on my desk 6" in front of the laptop with the mic facing the front and opened up the Fan Speed Settings application. I also shut off my air conditioning and shut my office door so the only noise is the laptop.

Idle the GPU is at 48º with its fan speed at 25% 1404 RPM. The CPU is at 55º with its fan speed at 25% at 1239 RPM. The app is showing 33-34 dB(A) 6" from the front. You can just hear a low hum from the laptop but not much else. I don't really hear air moving.

Setting offset to 10% to make them 35% the GPU fan is at 2002 RPM and CPU fan at 1745 RPM. The app is showing 38-39 dB(A) and the fan noise is obvious.

45% - GPU 2531 RPM - CPU 2185 RPM - 44-45 dB(A)
55% - GPU 2995 RPM - CPU 2576 RPM - 49-50 dB(A)
65% - GPU 3500 RPM - CPU 2995 RPM - 53-54 dB(A)
75% - GPU 3935 RPM - CPU 3333 RPM - 56-57 dB(A)
85% - GPU 4365 RPM - CPU 3686 RPM - 59-60 dB(A)
95% - GPU 4749 RPM - CPU 3986 RPM - 61-62 dB(A)
100% - GPU 5015 RPM - CPU 4187 RPM - 62.8-63.0 dB(A)

At 100% fan speed GPU temp is at 36º and CPU temp at 42º if that's important.

I never did a test like this before so hopefully the information is helpful. I did notice the GPU fan was slow to spin up. When I changed the offset the CPU fan would immediately increase but the GPU fan would drop and then slowly increase in speed until it got to the desired setting.

Edit: I figured I'd post what the dB(A) was with the laptop off since I needed to install the WiFi card and it shows 34-35 dB(A) in my room with no a/c and no fan and nothing making noise (I was holding my breath too lol) So I guess at idle the laptop is not really causing any additional noise to the app at least.

Edit 2: Fixed a typo (Changed CPU to GPU on the spin up thing) Also Fn 1 makes both fans go to 100% immediately I guess the GPU is just slow to get to the desired % with the app when you manually configure the offset.

 

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/662252882640371712/741058294260432966/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/662252882640371712/741058344713977897/unknown.png
these Cinebench runs are, the former (3367) with stock settings in term of PLs,
Whilst the latter has been done with the lowered PLs in the screenshot, all with -100mV offset. The Aida stress test also ran perfectly with temps not even exceeding 81C.
The difference of slightly less than 100 points ought to indicate a bit more tuning can get you close to stock settings performance whilst keeping temperatures way in check, and without max fan noise.
I suppose the same , or similar , can be done via voltage tuning for the gpu.

 

oh still thats pretty good scores with the i7 thanks for posting
i also think the alienware was delidded and overclocked CPU and GPU
do you think with the i9 delid and a overclock it can match or beat the alienware ?

 

If you want to merge them into one cable so you only have to take up one outlet (which will be especially useful in crowded public areas), use something like this: https://www.cableleader.com/14-powe...ZG4nnsNzWgZ0yaoJhL0Sh7LeCQf2bSchoCxcEQAvD_BwE

 

I am not qualified to answer that question In my old age I've kind of lost touch with the gaming world and am just now returning. I'm no stranger to technology but over the past 10 years my focus has shifted from having fun and gaming to being more focused on learning tools/skills to advance my career. Now that I'm happy with where my career is at I'm happy to have free time to step back into the gaming world so just trying to post what I can to help others while learning as much as I can.

I'm hoping to actually play a game after I'm done working for the day and see how it does in a real world test. Just need to figure which one it will be in my neglected steam library!

That's pretty clever! Thanks for posting it I found it on Amazon with Prime so score! https://www.amazon.com/Cablelera-Power-Extension-Splitter-ZWACPQAG-14/dp/B00FRODUR4

 

I can't even launch the CPU OC tool. I went into the BIOS and enabled the option for Overclocking but when I try to launch the CPU tool it crashes. The GPU OC tool loads fine but I haven't messed with the settings.

Code:

Application: cpuoc2.0.exe
Framework Version: v4.0.30319
Description: The process was terminated due to an unhandled exception.
Exception Info: System.InvalidOperationException
   at System.Diagnostics.PerformanceCounterLib.GetStringTable(Boolean)
   at System.Diagnostics.PerformanceCounterLib.get_NameTable()
   at System.Diagnostics.PerformanceCounterLib.get_CategoryTable()
   at System.Diagnostics.PerformanceCounterLib.CounterExists(System.String, System.String, Boolean ByRef)
   at System.Diagnostics.PerformanceCounterLib.CounterExists(System.String, System.String, System.String)
   at System.Diagnostics.PerformanceCounter.InitializeImpl()
   at System.Diagnostics.PerformanceCounter..ctor(System.String, System.String, System.String, Boolean)
   at System.Diagnostics.PerformanceCounter..ctor(System.String, System.String, System.String)
   at CPUOC.MainWindow.GetCPUTotalUsage()
   at CPUOC.MainWindow.UpdateUIPerSecond()
   at CPUOC.MainWindow.UpdateUI()
   at CPUOC.MainWindow.UpdateMainUI()
   at CPUOC.MainWindow.<.ctor>b__27_1(System.Object, System.ComponentModel.RunWorkerCompletedEventArgs)
   at System.ComponentModel.BackgroundWorker.OnRunWorkerCompleted(System.ComponentModel.RunWorkerCompletedEventArgs)
   at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32)
   at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(System.Object, System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32, System.Delegate)
   at System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherOperation.InvokeImpl()
   at MS.Internal.CulturePreservingExecutionContext.CallbackWrapper(System.Object)
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.RunInternal(System.Threading.ExecutionContext, System.Threading.ContextCallback, System.Object, Boolean)
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(System.Threading.ExecutionContext, System.Threading.ContextCallback, System.Object, Boolean)
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(System.Threading.ExecutionContext, System.Threading.ContextCallback, System.Object)
   at MS.Internal.CulturePreservingExecutionContext.Run(MS.Internal.CulturePreservingExecutionContext, System.Threading.ContextCallback, System.Object)
   at System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherOperation.Invoke()
   at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.ProcessQueue()
   at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.WndProcHook(IntPtr, Int32, IntPtr, IntPtr, Boolean ByRef)
   at MS.Win32.HwndWrapper.WndProc(IntPtr, Int32, IntPtr, IntPtr, Boolean ByRef)
   at MS.Win32.HwndSubclass.DispatcherCallbackOperation(System.Object)
   at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32)
   at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(System.Object, System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32, System.Delegate)
   at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.LegacyInvokeImpl(System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherPriority, System.TimeSpan, System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32)
   at MS.Win32.HwndSubclass.SubclassWndProc(IntPtr, Int32, IntPtr, IntPtr)
   at MS.Win32.UnsafeNativeMethods.DispatchMessage(System.Windows.Interop.MSG ByRef)
   at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.PushFrameImpl(System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherFrame)
   at System.Windows.Application.RunDispatcher(System.Object)
   at System.Windows.Application.RunInternal(System.Windows.Window)
   at CPUOC.App.Main()

Code:

Faulting application name: cpuoc2.0.exe, version: 1.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x90df9e33
Faulting module name: KERNELBASE.dll, version: 10.0.18362.959, time stamp: 0x7b90c1b5
Exception code: 0xe0434352
Fault offset: 0x000000000003a799
Faulting process id: 0x1bac
Faulting application start time: 0x01d66c44c0379ba8
Faulting application path: c:\program files\windowsapps\clevoco.cpuoverclocking_2.29.5.0_x64__6h6z29zh29qx0\cpuoc_loading\cpuoc2.0.exe
Faulting module path: C:\WINDOWS\System32\KERNELBASE.dll
Report Id: ebd8af6f-85bd-4327-84b4-e576def815f2
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:

 

The light bar shuts down fine for me but every time I reboot it comes back on. I have to reload the LED Keyboard Setting app and when I select Light Bar it seems to remember I have brightness set to 0 and shuts off but when I reboot it comes right back on.

Also every time I reboot it loses my 2nd monitor. The OS thinks it's there and it appears in the display settings. Power cycling it doesn't do anything but if I unplug the cable and plug it back in the screen will come back on. I can also "disconnect this display" then revert the changes and it comes back on. Kind of annoying :-/

Also is it supposed to have an Insyde BIOS? It boots to an Insyde logo not a Clevo or Sager logo. I went back in to check and there's an option for "Overclocking Feature" and I assumed enabling that would be required for the CPU/GPU OC tools to work. It doesn't unlock any other features in the BIOS when I enable it. https://i.imgur.com/EdAkf0C.jpg

I made sure I was fully updated and reinstalled a bunch of drivers and the control center app and still crashes. I don't want to OC but was just curious about the app. It loads the GUI but then crashes https://i.imgur.com/H1E3ip4.png

 

I just got a tracking number for mine. It will probably get here by Monday

 

Can I ask when you ordered yours, and whether this was stock or customized?

 

I preordered the end of June with 10900k delidded, upgraded thermals, 240hz, and with 2080s and bigger ssd. I already have 64gb 2800 memory here.

 

Great data. Thank you!

 

I preordered the same end of June with similar spec and mine was delayed few weeks due to processor shortage

 

I was initially told the same thing but it got done much quicker.

 

I wonder why Clevo capped the pipes so short. They don't cover the whole fin stack as they should. Not the biggie but this is half baked. Nothing stop them from max out pipes lenght over the fin stack.

 

I think the answer to this question is the same as to "Why aren't they installing the pipes into the radiators for better heat diccipation and why are they just gluing them on top?"

And the answer which Clevo would give:

 

Seems to me that the Dell had some OC.
Max loggesld gpu clock for Dell was 2040 mhz and for Clevo it was 1920 mhz. That extra +120 mhz and the margin of error can be the reason for the difference in graphics score. At least for Fire Strike.