*** Official Clevo X170SM-G/Sager NP9670M Owner's Lounge ***

That's right. It is a BIG bag.

 

Thank you very much for the response and for the images! They are very helpful! I will look for one of those

 

Does anyone know the exact difference between bios b10702 and b10703 ?

Does it improve performance or maybe change Gsync behavior to fix the ghosting issue ?

 

As far as I can tell, most of the models shipped with the 03 installed, I know mine did. Might be just brands renaming it to put the logo on it. As for the ghosting issue, have yet to see it show up again after my fix. Seems to be a non issue at this point.

 

How do you guys go about finding updated drivers for this thing? I know the basic ones from GPU/CPU etc, but ones like the clevo control center seems to be pretty out of date on celvo's own site. Any site that keeps this sort of thing up to date? Mostly looking for the newest Control Center 3.0 Download, have 3.02 atm.

 

https://www.obsidian-pc.com/2019/01/24/obsidian-pc-clevo-drivers-updater/

Maybe? Worked fine on my old Clevo.

 

@Busko : I had a closer look at the Beacon and I have to say it looks very awesome. But I was surprised to read that weight of the backpack is 1.68kg on its own. Can you confirm that? What makes it so heavy without any load?

 

Padding and large size.

 

May have missed it, any before/after comparisons on delidding effects for this machine? I'm seriously considering getting a 10700KF, getting it delidded and then replace the 10700K in here.

 

I ordered a Samsung 970 Pro 1TB as main drive. I need some more storage place, however. I was thinking about getting the slightly cheaper 970 Evo 2TB. Do you have any other suggestions/alternatives for a storage drive?

 

The 970 evo plus is roughly the same cost and performs better

 

People from europe rejoice, xmg is about to offer the 300hz panel soon. No news about PREMA, even tho he posts regulary in their reddit..

 

@Prema does extensive beta testing and tweaking before introducing v1 of his BIOS products to market. When it's done it's done. Even after it is offered, he will constantly refine and update them.

In summary, it's done when it's done.

 

This laptop will be old in about 5 months once the 3080 drops in laptops, I think he missed the mark on this one.

 

I wonder how a 3080 will perform even at 200w since the desktop wattage in those is very high. It should be faster but the performance gap shrinks as the wattage gap widens from desktop into laptop.

“Rumor” has it that the 115w GPU laptop spec will be moved up to 140w. No telling who will take advantage of this or how this will scale across other GPUs in laptops but it’s telling of the need to increase the wattage on 3k series in order to justify its performance over 2k series. Laptops speaking of course.

 

The cores are pushed pretty hard into the exponential part of their power curve in the 3080.

 

Missed the mark how? Does the laptop suddenly not improve with it when it is released to OEMs? Are current owners who are eligible for it not able to take advantage? People who buy these will own them for
years not months. However well your system is performing now, it will be more customizable and perform better when it arrives. When it ships, and you're eligible, you get it. No more; no less.

 

You can always send him a laptop to test, because one problem that he usually had was lack of real hardware to test, maybe now with XMG they are lending/offering him a laptop and various CPUs, GPUs, RAM sticks and NVMe drives so he can test his firmware mods..

BIOS modding like @Prema does isn't going into an editor and making visible a couple extra menus..

 

Can you elabroate what could be expected? What kind of modifications are made?

 

I wish/hope PC Specialist would get on that and then offer the BIOS as an add-on "upgrade" for those of us who already bought the machine.

 

I just weighed it empty and it's showing 3.6 lb. (1.65 KG) on my luggage scale. It drops to 1.45 KG if I remove the little sleeve they include. It just has a lot of pockets and padding and is well made.

I picked up the 1TB 970 Evo Plus and it performs about the same as the 1TB 970 Pro that my friend has in his HP Omen. There are benchmarks online that show the same thing. In the end though you won't really notice any speed difference unless you're performing some very extreme tasks. I have some of my steam library on a 512GB SATA M.2 and they load almost as fast as the ones on the 970.

https://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compa...70-Evo-Plus-NVMe-PCIe-M2-2TB/m497261vsm798635

 

For the vast majority of users the Evo is the one to go for unless the 980 pro is going for a good price (which is more closely related to the 970 Evo than the 970 pro)

 

Hi guys

Where are the UK/European based buyers get their X170SM-G from? I've seen through the thread PC Specialist (PCS) which seems to be the cheapest, Scan.co.uk is currently on pre-order but closely matches PCS. The rest XMG, Osidian and Clevo themselves offer more expansive selection (thermal paste) but of course more expensive.

 

Depends on what you are after support wise.

 

Clevo X170SM-G Drivers

@S.K

 

In case you wanted to get it from us, we offer a HIPS (HIDevolution Pre-paid Shipping Service) warranty which basically covers shipping costs both ways should you need to ever send the laptop back to us for repairs. If it's just a small part that needs replacing which you can do yourself, we will send it to you free of charge and will also send you a shipping label to send us back the old part from the comfort of your home.

Our thermal upgrades make a huge difference in taming the temps on this beast so it would perform to its max potential.

 

XMG can offer prema bios, and clevo doesn't sell to the end user, so you might be talking about clevo center, that one is a portuguese shop that js known to be shaddy..

 

I think the reason for sharing this will be obvious to most, but there is an ulterior motive that will be revealed in time.

 

So, I've had some time to experiment with my clevo x170sm-g here is my build:






https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/33415887

I have my i9 10900 delidded. Used a delid tool and pulled the ihs off as the indium became soft. I then used my nail and a razor to scratch of the indium residue and lastly some polish on both the cpu die and ihs to allow nice contact. No adhesive has been applied to the ihs/pcb as I may have shaved a bit too much of the die by lapping. It just about makes perfect contact with the die. Liquid metal has been applied to the heatsink, ihs and cpu die.

After 10 loops of cinebench r20 (not max fans) the cpu ends up reaching about 83c whilst pulling an average wattage of 175-180w, no undervolt either. I suspect temps will be 5c lower with a decent undervolt but atm I don't see the need to install throttlestop or xtu. Max fans the cpu reaches 78c.

The GTX 1070 temps are fairly cool, I have a shim on top of the gpu die as well as thicker thermal pads as inductors stop solid contact otherwise. No liquid metal here just arctic silver 5 thermal paste. Max temp is 67c with max fans this goes to 60c. Wattage pulled is around 120 to 150w.

I'll be making a thread to show which mxm cards will work in the system and which won't. From the 20 mxm cards I have tried in this machine I can say that only pascal or above cards will work in this machine. The vbios has to be the latest which is compatible with the p775tm1-g to allow the display to light up otherwise artifacts appear all over the screen...

Oh and I forgot to mention this laptop is actually from PCSpecialist but it seems someone other than the official store is selling these too. I have a 240hz G-sync panel in this laptop.

 

Thanks for the link.

Nice! I will be receiving mine today with a 300Hz panel. Bought from HIDevolution. Build includes 10900K, 2080 Super, 128 GB Kingston HyperX 3200MHz Ram, Samsung 970 Pro 2TB x 2, Samsung 860 Pro 4TB x 1, no BT/WiFi as I don't like unnecessary radiation in my face (ordered the machine without it). I use a cat 8 ethernet cable and my ultra high speed fiber optic modem instead.

 

Did anyone, by any chance notice instability problems with faster-than-2666mhz ram? i got a dual channel 2x8gb and was told anything faster was deemed "unstable"

 

I was planning on travelling quite a lot with my X170SM-G, but I found a note in the users manual in which the manufacturer warns about airport security checks:

" Beware of Electromagnetic fields - Devices such as metal detectors & X-ray machines can damage the computer, hard disk, floppy disks, and other media. They may also destroy any stored data - Pass your computer and disks around the devices. Ask security officials to hand-inspect them (you may be asked to turn it on). Note: Some airports also scan luggage with these devices."

I was wondering if this is a concern? As far as I could find on google, the airport baggage scanners don't contain metal detectors, but are actually X-ray scanners. And apparently, X-rays don't damage computer components? So how should I behave at airports? Is it okay to get the X170SM-G inspected by the airport hand luggage scanner? Or do I need to ask the security personnel to hand-inspect it as suggested in the X170SM-G manual? Will the security personnel be open for this, as I don't have any experience with this before.

 

Cheapest and alright service: https://laptopparts4less.frl/17.3inch-laptop-samenstellen/Clevo-X170SM-G-laptop-samenstellen

 

Thanks for that, I've checked them out and have been asking questions to Frits

Sellers are still offering 2933 to 3200mhz ram!!

 

I call bull on this statement. Consumer electronics are not this sensitive, so you'll be fine running the laptop through an x-ray scanner at the airport. I've taken my Alienware Ranger through numerous x-ray machines during the time I've had it, and I've never noticed any problems. Very strong rapidly oscillating electromagnetic fields can damage computer equipment, but you won't see any fields of that intensity in scanning equipment, otherwise it would harm people too. Just my two cents.

 

I agree. Nothing to be concerned about.

 

I loved seeing the scan of my old P570WM, was great.

 

Bad luck guys. The motherboard in the new machine was DOA. The windows was acting funky and rebooting repeatedly and I was unable to figure out what was wrong until I heard a POOF with a strong burning smell and the machine went down. I immediately pulled the power and the battery only to find out that one of the chips beside the CPU had burned out. I am not sure what to do now. Currently trying to get in contact with Ted from HIDevolution. Let's see what happens next. This isn't a good first sign however.

 

Definitely not a good sign, was hoping to see more reviews of the X170SM-G. Hopefully it gets sorted for you.

 

Just talked to Ted. HIDevolution is going to send me a replacement motherboard soon. Let's see how it goes. I will probably have to buy a new work desktop as I had sold the area 51m already in anticipation . Don't want to disturb my lab machines and servers.

 

Damm, finally someone with a 300 hz panel to test out the ghosting mentioned before with the 240 hz panel and the mb is dead...
Truly bad luck

 

Both my two Clevos from them. Communication was always precise and replies came swift. Order came in time. No (unexpected ;-) ) issues so far.

 

VRM burnt out? Was it a squarish chip?

 

Seems like one of the CPU mosfets. And since this happened during Windows install cat and mouse game as it was rebooting repeatedly, there was no serious load on the CPU. It was so bad that the chip actually cracked in half.

 

CLEVO X170SM-G Latest Drivers with the correct installation order =

Make sure to right click on the file you just downloaded, go to Properties, then hit Unblock from the bottom right as it may be blocked since it was downloaded from the internet, if you don't do this before you run the file or extract it, then it may not install correctly.

To prevent this automatic blocking of files in the future so you don't have to go unblocking every file you download to ensure it runs properly, follow the guide in this thread:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/are-you-sure-you-want-to-run-this-file-yes-or-no.825668/

 

Any kind of changelog?

 

Changelog? Clevo doesn't provide changelogs and they have only 4 drivers on their official site. Sager has them all except for the fingerprint scanner driver but has an outdated Control Center version so I compiled this list in the proper installation order, substituted the IRST Driver with the latest and latest LAN/WLAN Drivers.

 

Getting ready to push the button at AVA direct this week. Replacing the P570WM with the X170SM-G. Will keep you posted on what happens

 

Hmm that does seem bad but not too bad. I reckon if the mosfet cracked before any more damage could be done, there may be a chance that removing the mosfet, cleaning up the solder pads and the junk around it will allow the laptop to turn on again. Not all mosfets are needed for power delivery although it does make it easier to balance wattage when there are more

BTW is that an NCP mosfet?

 

Will let you know from the replacement machine that I get. Not sure about this one as I didn't read the part numbers.