*** Official Clevo X170SM-G/Sager NP9670M Owner's Lounge ***

Only X170sm-g or you intent to release for old models like P7xDMx, P8 and so on? Or even TM1? I sure miss your work. Still have a P377SM-A running the latest release of your bios to it. I'm glad I was a beta tester back in P375SM days and afterwards my P377SM-A too

And for release I mean the end-user. Of course more partners are welcome

A big thank you my friend for your work and a hug from Portugal

 

hi prema
if u need beta tester i m ready ))))
if its possible to buy this bios so im ready too
for bios question its possible to use xmp memory from this bios?

 

Any chance of rolling out of p870tm1 bios purchasable from you?

Tired of Eurocom "premium unlocked" nightmare bios and even had to add gpu ID to it by myself..

Was never able to buy from any partners with delivery to my country =(
Same with x170 - only available from sager, eurocom and hasee.

 

^ This last bit makes me happy, because I'm absolutely happy to pay for the modded BIOS and the authorized reseller to install it on my system to protect your IP.

I just ask for the OPTION to do it. Which we don't have in the EU right now.

 

You mean to say I can probably have these LEDs behave?

Just give me the list of whoever's feet I gotta kiss, besides yours of course.

 

If Clevo put a more power efficient vrm/better components, would you be able to clock slightly higher with the same wattage?

 

I am going to order one soon. I can't find one better for what I want to do.

 

I will be here to serve you whenever you are ready!

 

Get self employed and use it for work so it's a reasonable business expense

 

TECHNICALLY I can write it off as a business expense since one job is carer and the other job is game help desk, so I need a system that can run the game that i'm supporting.

When I asked, I got told to bugger off because my desktop can run it fine.

 

You're the man Prema! Donald definitely deserves a lot of credit for getting the ball rolling.

I'm happy to see you're considering rolling your BIOS out to end users. Patience is a virtue and I have quite a lot of that, so I'll wait and see what happens. Thanks for all your hard work and dedication to this community. These DTRs definitely would not have been as awesome without your work.

 

The advantage of being self employed you can choose what is required

 

Just want to say thanks for helping us and prema bring in x170sm and his bios!

 

It sounds like cool work from everyone

 

Here's an XTU profile that anyone that wants to try it can have a crack at it.

 

Ugghhh. I just got my response from Eluktronics.

"Hello,

We apologize you had not received a reply to this inquiry. At this time we are not offering a Prema BIOS solution and do not have intentions of offering this BIOS for this model.

Kind regards,

Eluktronics Customer Service"

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Bummer. They must not have plans to become a Partner Shop. Or, maybe the person that replied is not able to commit to it at this time.

Looks like zTechpc, LPC-Digital and HIDevolution (all West Coast) are the options available for discerning shoppers that care about having good firmware.

 

Ztech needs to expand around the world.

 

Cheers, I tried something similar with throttlestop but it crashes before I can even say BSOD

 

That’s a shame. They seem like pretty decent people over there. They’re eluktroboosted laptops are a cut above the rest. And at better prices too. So long as you don’t mind not having a full aluminum laptop.

Do you have one of their x170 laptops? Kinda curious if they did anything with them or left them stock.

Write them a sponsorship check and I’m sure they would love too.

 

Yes... and I got an awesome deal with no memory or HD.
But it may be a problem with no Prema bios.

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Yes... and I got an awesome deal with no memory or HD.
But it may be a problem with no Prema bios.

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I think Mr Fox got a pretty good chip there.

Best I can do is -0.075v adaptive on 4.9ghz all core, but that keeps the chip under 90C, so i'm pretty happy with that. May investigate one of those silicon lottery chips in the new year. I'm thinking maybe if I can get one with a guaranteed speed at 1.35v and pre-delidded, then it might be a good candidate for undervolting.

 

That image is so fuzzy I can’t read it.

But yes they’re prices are very good. Those bundles they give add a lot of value to them also. You could get you cpu delidded. That would help for sure. Not sure if it would be enough to tame the beast.

 

Sorry about that lol. It is the 2080 super with i9 10900k for $2729. After tax and shipping it was $2955. I got Cooler Master Mastergel on the CPU and GPU for $30. It isn't delidded. I am probably going to to that myself with Mr Fox's video tutorial.

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Oh no worries. Probably tapatalk compressing everything. But wow is a cheap price. Good to hear you’re considering doing it yourself. He did make an excellent video on delidding. May try it myself one day when I had the need too.

 

Hi, sorry for late response! I was tweaking my thermal pads and fiddling with different kind of screws to achieve max cooling. I have finally achieved a setting which I quite like so far. Here are my idle temps with full fans (stock clock):


Here was my Cinebench R20 score before current mods:


And here is the final score after the mods:


Not much improvement but considering the fact that these are with stock clocks and the 10900K that I am using does not like to be undervolted beyond -70mV on core and -65mV on cache, this seems pretty good. System is rock stable. There is currently no Intel DPTF installed. I am managing the thermals entirely manually.

Here's some R23 for both multi and single core (stock clocks).



Apparently my machine is a pretty solid candidate for Prema mod if available in the future.

Are there any physical mods that need to be done to the motherboard? If yes, are the motherboards going to be available for separate purchase?

 

We will...probably within the next 2-3 months

 

There must be a good pinky and the brain reference to make there

 

Yes, there are physical mods in the Thermals Designed by @Mr. Fox. A new motherboard will not provide them...you can only get them at zTecpc.com.

 

I have done some thermal mods of my own and currently i am pretty content with my thermals. What I wanted to know is whether there are any mods needed for the motherboard circuitry. If none then I'll be interested to buy the bios itself (if available).

 

No modifications to the MB circuitry ...

 

Nice! Looks like you've got it running well. That is right about where it should be at stock clocks even for a desktop.

Still looking forward to seeing your CCC exorcism instructions.

Here are my latest runs for CBR20 and 23. 50x on all cores.

And, running my desktop with the same 50x on all cores... level playing field (excluding thermals, of course)

 

Yes, it's one of the binned samples from the zTecpc armory. I am binning them to tighter standards than Silicon Lottery does. They're rejecting CPUs with a bin quality that is not up to zTecpc minimum standards and letting them go someplace like eBay. Having CPUs that can run with lower voltage is an important component of thermal management even more than overclocking, especially in a laptop. You can have a great cooling system with a crappy CPU that needs too much voltage and it will never run cool enough unless you use something much better than air or an ordinary AIO water chiller.

 

I also salute you Donald and THANK YOU to Prema for working on a proper BIOS for the X-170SMG. I also appreciate MRFOXs work on the cooling solution because the 10900Ks in this notebook are a furnace out of the box. I will definitely be ordering from ztecPC and Donald when the X-170SMG gets updated with RTX 3080s notebook edition when they get released. After i see tests of course.

 

Ah, that'd be why then. Very nice chip there.

Probably not gonna be sold to us plebs though, so silicon lottery will sadly have to be my outlet. I figure if I can get a 10700k that runs at 5.2 or 5.3ghz on 1.35v, get it delidded, etc, then it should do 5ghz around 1.2-ish. (since my current can do 4.9)

 

That should certainly be doable. 10700K is a great CPU as well. Much easier to tame the temps and excellent for gaming.

 

Hopefully that won’t be to far out. Looks like early 2021 we will atleast start seeing announcements for RTX 3000 laptops. Fingers crossed they make an mxm card. Though I’ll be curious to see what the performance is if they stay with 200w.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lapto...H-2021-from-as-little-as-US-999.505895.0.html

 

I have posted the guide here regarding how to completely strip the OC component from CCC and remove the lower throttle temperature limits that it imposes on the CPU:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-cpu-oc-component-completely-x170sm-g.834715/

In case anyone is interested.

 

Sweet! Thanks, bro.

Happy Thanksgiving all. We all have more to be thankful for than we deserve.

 

@Donald@zTecpc Have you some info about possible 165 Hz WQHD 17.3 inch display as option for X170 ? 1440P is the sweet spot for 17 inch laptops. Thanks

 

Tongfang is providing that screen for xmg laptops, clevo doesn't offer it yet afaik

 

Oooooh. That'd be good. I'd love a 1440p screen for my machine.

 

Recalling how the response back awhile ago was about changing the panel from 240 to 300hz it was a definitive no go. They rather take your used one and give you a new one. Wonder how much clevo is behind tongfang regarding boe panels.

 

All they need now is a RTX 3090 "Desktop GPU" that can consume 400 watts in a laptop. I bet you guys will have a lot of fun with that...

 

Many advantages with 1440P. Etc No need for a bigger desktop screen to validate scores on the bot

And Futuremark have changed the result screen in a disgusting way. 1080P is to small and 4K doesn't fits my old eyes. You can barely see all the info from Futuremark benchmarks results on 1080P (Full HD is a thing of the past). 1440P is perfect.


I'm sure 1440P will have a great future for 17 inch notebooks when the refresh rate now have reached 165 Hz. Won't need much more for now.... Castrated Ampere mobile cards won't need more.

 

I’d gladly give up g-sync for a 1440p 165hz panel. If it’s plug in play I may have to keep my eyes out for one of those panels once were know the part numbers. Still not so sure I trust aliexpress though . . .

And those rumors on the 3000 series mobile gpus aren’t looking promising. Maaaaaybe there is some hope if an mxm card comes out it might be better. But with how much more juice the new cards use I’m not gonna be surprised if The increase in performance is minimal.

 

7nm would make a lot of sense for mobile cards. 1440p is a good resolution to balance FPS and quality.

 

My exact baseline criteria (and another reason I avoid BGA) for years; I look for chips that run cooler with lower voltage at a certain range versus a chip that can soar with great cooling but has a hotter and hungrier lower to midrange frequency range.

 

My vapor chamber is ready, lol.