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What an bad news., : the seller is backing out , but poor me ,I have ordered an hd 6970m , bigfoot killer 1103 ,i7 965 , paid for these items,
but barebone seller backing out. what should I do.
We made an deal for an trade , he accepted it and the thread was changed to deal pendiong also, but day before yesterday someone has offered him cash so he doesnt want to trade with me, but the guy who offered cash still didnt pay, I hate if someone does like to me.now what should I do?>

 

Explain to him the situation and hope he'll reconsider given you've already bought the parts you need.

going to be hard to find another seller if it's a direct trade though

 

Yes thats the problem, its hard to find another seller who wants trades,
but I told him I have paid for the items and even showed him the payments I sent through ebay/paypal for the item,
I dont think I can find an x7200 barebone, but what about p270wm.
then I have to sell my i7 965 and buy an i7 39XX processor.
or can I go with p180hm , how many hours does it stay with battery?
is it a good desktop replacement?

 

Sorry to hear that. Does this have to be a trade? What if you purchased a barebones x7200 - that is if builders still have some in stock? Could you do the purchase, or does it have to be a trade?

 

do you have x7200 barebone? I can do the purchase soon after I sell my ASUS G73 AND IPHONE 4, BUT i GOT ALL OTHER PARTS. so the only thing I need is the barebone.

 

No, but check with AVADirect, RJTech, Mythlogic, Malibal, LPC-Digital as they may still have one.

 

thanks for the info, I check on those sites for x7200 , but an p270wm will also be better.

 

Heya,

for those of you wanting to upgrade to more RAM:

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While supplies last.

 

Yes, but:
a) P270WM is not out yet, and won't be for weeks. You could start using the x7200 now.
b) You have components that will work better for the x7200 (ATI card(s) and CPU - which won't work at all)

 

humm still waiting for gskill 2*8gb 1600 cl9 with black heatsink

 

Yes , I have the parts to give life for a barebone, but I cant find one, I searched all over internet, and found only 1 , its 1000$ , I think its bit high for a old model, and saw p270wm barebone for 1200$ , so I should sell my current processor and get an i7 39XX series processor,
I feel shame on you DGDXGDG

 

Did you try emailing or contacting each of those builders? Not looking on their web site, but rather emailing, live chat, or something where you are interacting with a human? If so, do they not ship overseas? Are they out of stock?

 

Why are you eager to have black heatsinks? Black is usually a poor color choice as it tends to retain heat better.

In my opinion, style should not take precedence over functionality.

Besides, isn't that the whole purpose of being a Sager owner? Not to be flashy but to make sure you own a rugged gaming laptop that functions properly?

 

Try contacting those sellers and seeing if you can haggle with the price a little.

If that doesn't work, I would recommend getting the p270wm for the extra money, but the CPU may set you back more than you bargained for.

Spend a bit of extra time researching your options for CPU and cost of the barebones to see if it is something workable.

 

I'm confused on a couple of different fronts:

a) What laptop memory comes with a heatsink?

b) assuming there *are* laptop memory modules w/ heatsinks, unless it leads to a different material which interferes with heat radiation, why would color matter inside a dark, enclosed laptop case? Perhaps it depends on model (location of the memory sockets), but how much light (if any) can seep into a case which would affect a heatsink?

 

I'm a little confused myself. I had assumed you posted about your ram in the laptop forum for a laptop.

Kingston HyperX laptop RAM comes with heatsinks. As do a few others, you can check here Newegg.com - Computer Hardware, Memory, Laptop Memory, DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)

Regarding your other question, regardless of the location of your RAM, black has a tendency to trap heat more-so than other colors. Though painted surfaces in general tend to trap heat over a bare metal finish black is usually a poor color for heat dissipation.

 

I have talked to almost many resellers about x7200 most of them say that they dont offer barebone, but a reseller offered me p270wm barebone, but 1400$ so ,im going to buy an p270wm barebone from the guy I told before.

 

I had no idea they were doing that for laptop RAM, and heatsinks for memory modules where just a desktop thing. Thanks for the link.

Although, I still don't know why color would matter for DGDXGDG, unless clevo is now making cases with see through acrylic as well.

While paint may affect heat dissipation as it may have has some kind of thermal conductivity properties, the color has no bearing. Color only affects "light" absorption (which in turn also grabs infrared radiation from the light and thus heat).

In the absence of light, there is no absorption of light radiation. Assuming a same material box w/ same coverage of paint, if you stick a heated black box vs. a white box vs. a red box (all at the same temp) in a completely dark freezer, the temps of all those objects will be the same after the same amount of time.

 

Point taken.

 

WOW, all that because I posted a good deal (IMHO) on laptop ram......

 

That p270wm barebone includes the 580M card? I wonder if a p270wm barebone would still work without the dedicated card if you have an Ivy Bridge cpu.

 

no gpu, is it worth , and the price is 1200$ without shipping.
It works on all mxm 3 b gpu's

 

Don't forget, you will still need proper heatsinks and fans. Make sure your reseller provides all of those. Also, keep in mind that the 580M is like 700$+. So with a CPU (3930K is ~600$), GPU (600-750$), RAM, HDD, Wifi, you are looking 2.7-3.0k anyway

 

omg will it cost like 3k roughly?
I should build my own sr2 with two x5690's if it costs 3k,
but I have an hd 6970m,NO CPU, killer 1103 wifi, no hdd , no ram,
so how ever it is going over 2k ,eh!

 

Yeah, you'll be around 2.2-2.3k realistically. In your case I'd sell the 6970M and grab a complete system from a reliable reseller like LPC-Digital, Mythlogic or XoticPC. That way you would end up paying about the same as if building it from barebone but you would have the warranty. Trust me, you don't wanna assemble a 3k system and have no coverage.

 

ya, thats a better idea.,thanks.
in my case, I dont travel a lot , I just move places inside my house to use my neighbours wifi , i game with his wifi, because I have an dongle where the ping goes over 500 in cod 4 .
atm im using my toshiba qosmio f20 , it has 128mb vga, 512mb ram ,and has wifi too. and use neighbors wifi and I could get ping like 30 - 60 . its a great improvement, but the thing is I need to go to the closest room to use that wifi with this laptop, so I would preffer a laptop that has wifi all over it im thinking of jumping to alienware instead of clevo, because they look very nice and I like the christmas three in it , its very colourful. so the revolution should start today.

 

with the p270 you get a back lit keyboard and some lights on the back of the screen and as well the tuch buttons for volume and wifi and BT and of course the cam is that not enough m8 you want to be discrete and then aw your m8ts with its extreme power

 

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The 675m is essentially a rebadged 580m and both do about 10% better than the 485m. The 675 is a little better than the 580m due to slightly improved clocks. You can compare results in these links:

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 675M - Notebookcheck.net Tech
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580M - Notebookcheck.net Tech
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 485M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

 

I dont see any difference on stock clocks from both cards, only the name was changed.

 

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Looks like you're right and they just contradict themselves in that article. It's just a straight rebadge and the only difference in benchmarks probably comes from the drivers they tested with.

 

Striken Post! (Sorry).

Although I just noticed a typo on the GTX 580M review. My guess is "Max. Amount of Memory: 2 MB" should be "Max. Amount of Memory: 2 GB

 

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First off, consider 128GB instead of 64GB (minimum). Yes, there is a limited number of "writes" a NAND Cell can take (~5000 writes using 25nm tech), but w/ "wear-leveling" algorithms, the drive will move things around trying to spread the writes evenly across all cells. By using 128GB, you will give your drive the room it needs for this to work better within the wear leveling algorithm. Besides with the way the winsxs directory keeps expanding, you'll soon find more 20 to 32GB being used just by Windows.

Second consider something like the Crucial M4, Intel 510, or Samsung 830. I have the precursor to the Crucial M4 (C300), and it works swimmingly on the x7200 (along side my mirrored Momentus XTs). I'd recommend staying away from any drive (including the Intel 520) using a SandForce controller. There are some issues (some of which are still not resolved), and although you might not encounter them, the other three drives have a better track record.

For more research, take a look at some of the threads here - Solid State Drives (SSDs) and Flash Storage

 

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Never tried it, but doesn't F12 or some other function key let you pick what device to boot from?

If that doesn't work, IIRC you could use a boot loader like grub to install multiple OSs, but I believe all primary partitions would have to be on one disk. And that doesn't sound like something you want.

 

Any bootloader will take care of that. The Windows 7 bootloader or Grub can list both Windows and Linux I believe. It takes a little bit of work to get it working correctly though, when you're installing the OS's.

The definitive dual-booting guide: Windows 7, Linux, Vista and XP step-by-step

 

Just to ad fuel to this fire......why on earth would you in this modern age, run a dual/multi boot setup, when you can put them in a VM. VM's in my experiance are the way to go, dual/tripple/multiple boots are nothing but headaches.

Plus, with a VM you can have all 3 os's running at the same time. So, the advantage of a dual/tripple boot over a VM is what ? Yea, thats silence you hear.......

 

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Everyone knows (assuming you're a long time follower of this thread), I use VMs exclusively, but perhaps there is a reason werdna wants to do this - hardware.

If one wanted to use some specific hardware on the x7200, then you'd need to run natively. For example, if you really, really want to use the Realtek Audio card or perhaps you want to OC the CPU / GPU, or needed something with your WiFi / JMicron network adapters, none of this would work in a VM.

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Edit - wedrna posted his problems, but the point is still a valid argument when you need to run natively.

 

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have you cleared the cmos it could help

 

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first remove psu ,then the battery hold down the power putton for 30 sec take of the keyboard and the plate under the keyboard there you will find the cmos battery take it out keep it out for a short wile then put it back together start the laptop if it helped things should be working then no beeps
if that dont help you can always take out the ram's and test start the system
with 1 ram in test all rams this way
just incase one or more is defect
remember you dont need to disconect the cables from top plate with tuch button
or the keyboard ribbon

 

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See pp 2-12 of x7200 service manual.

 

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ok just be carefull