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    *** Official Clevo x7200 and Sager NP7280 owners lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by italian.madness, May 26, 2010.

  1. unfaix

    unfaix Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah the power Brick is freaking heavy and the point where the plug meets the exterior housing isn't supported very well.

    I try not to put much stress on it by not bending it, but who knows, it might break one day.

    And to add, there's not much, actually zero after market adapter for this laptop. It sucks too much juice for those 3rd party type.
     
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    WAY too much for 3rd parties, they tend to stop around the 120W mark lol and not even support the plug type.

    There is the new 330W delta brick that would work.
     
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    Hi Unfaix,

    if you're still searching better SLI graphic cards than the GTX 460m then I could offer you a pair of GTX 675m's! I recently upgraded mine to GTX 675mx SLI, so I don't need them anymore.
    Just send me a PM, if you're interested.

    Installing them is pretty easy. Just follow the instructions of the following thread:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/693234-x7200-sli-gtx-680m-how-works-impressions-benches.html

    Performance will be equal/slightly better then a single GTX 680m on stock settings. You have to acquire the heatsinks for 485/580m.
     
  4. unfaix

    unfaix Notebook Consultant

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    Gonna send you pm in a bit. I'm thinking of getting a smaller laptop for my hobbies. But I'd really want to upgrade the video card on my x7200 as well.
     
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    A single 680m m8ght be better though overall, comes down to price.
     
  6. unfaix

    unfaix Notebook Consultant

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    damn 680m is about 450 on ebay versus one 675m for 275.

    so i gather that one 680m is better than two 675m ?
     
  7. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    It actually depends on the game and the graphics engine it uses. For example in benchmark programs, 1x 680M is better then 2x 675M in 3DMark Vantage but 2x 675M is better then 1x 680M in 3DMark 11.
    I would go with the single 680M.
     
  8. Tirenz

    Tirenz Notebook Evangelist

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    Wait, it works with two 675mX SLI? That´s good to hear! I always thought it wouldn´t work... maybe then GTX 780m may work as well...
     
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    It's a pretty expensive card to test with lol.
     
  10. Tirenz

    Tirenz Notebook Evangelist

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    Yep, I don´t plan on testing myself, since I plan to maybe get a new laptop with GTX 880m SLI (or whatever it will be called) next year. Right now I am very satisfied with my GTX 680m´s ;).
    But since this day I always pointed out that the GTX 780m would probably not work with X7200 - maybe that´s not true. If someone want to try... :D
     
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    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Are there any good teardown or disassembly guides out there for the x7200?

    Sent from my GT-P3110 using Tapatalk 4
     
  12. Support.3@XOTIC PC

    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    You can give this one a shot X7200_ESM
     
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    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Awesome, thanks! Now if only I can quit being so lazy :p

    Sent from my DROID RAZR XT912 / CM 10.2
     
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    LOL yah getting around to actually doing it is a different story.
     
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    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    This is the state of my room at the moment. :p


    Sent from my DROID RAZR XT912 / CM 10.2
     

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    unfaix Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks, this will come in handy for a full clean up.
     
  17. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Hey guys,

    So if you don't remember I had power issues with my last X7200 Motherboard. It mysteriously up and died in it's sleep one day. It appeared to pass away of natural causes, but I suspect foul play. :p You can ready about it here.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/728401-x7200-wont-power.html

    Anyhow long story short, I ordered a new motherboard. Today I finally got the time to swap it. I put in the new motherboard and the system now boots. Yay!! But my problem is it won't boot into windows. I get this stop error.

    [​IMG]

    When I was replacing it I noticed it had a sticker, I believe it was dated 9/2012. Possibly 9/2013? Eitherway when I booted the system it had a Eurocom splash screen, and I believe it said Panther 3 bios. Do I need to update the bios? My SSD has My X7200 Windows 7 install, and all the drivers that went with the old mother board. The old motherboard was very similiar, with some minor differances I noticed. My old board had no HDMI IN. Instead the HDMI IN slot was just a solid rubber piece. This one has HDMI in and also had the Express card port. though the body of my system doesnt so thats of no use to me.

    My basic question is this. Is it chipset drivers that I need to update? Maybe a Bios update? Right now I think I may need to download a windows ISO and create a bootable USB drive to install Win 7. I havn't tried it yet, but would rather not lose my Windows 7 install if it's an easy fix. Though I'm not opposed to it.

    Any suggestions on what I should try? Thanks peeps.
     
  18. FouchSoftware

    FouchSoftware Notebook Guru

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    I also have an X7200 I bought about 3 years ago. Sometimes it fails to boot, and I have to hard reboot it. It has done this since new. Maybe once in every 10-20 or so boots. As I use it 10-12 hours a day, and can't really deal w/o out it for the 2-3 weeks it would take to send it in, I never sent it in.

    If you don't mind, how much was it to order a new motherboard?

    Thanks
     
  19. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    New Motherboard cost me $390 shipped. I purchased off Eurocom on ebay. We had all our contact through ebay messages, and paid via paypal. Ebay name was upgradeyourlaptop.
     
  20. FouchSoftware

    FouchSoftware Notebook Guru

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    Thanks. Looks like a viable option as I can change out the motherboard myself and not have any down time. Also, it looks like I can upgrade the memory from 12 GB to 24 GB at the same time. :)

    I will have to say Sager/Clevo makes some pretty good equipment. I use my current X7200 every day for the last 3 years. And before that I had a Sager NP9260 that is still going strong 5-6 years later.
     
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    Are you running it the correct sata controller mode? AHCI/RAID?
     
  22. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Yea I'm pretty sure, I've never used raid on this system.

    Sent from my DROID RAZR XT912 / CM 10.2
     
  23. FouchSoftware

    FouchSoftware Notebook Guru

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    Anyone know if the latest Sager BIOS firmware supports memory beyond 12 GB?
     
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    Yes it does.
     
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  25. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Anyone know if the 765M SLI would work in the X7200?
     
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    reborn2003 THE CHIEF!

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    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    lol, Yup! I was looking at those and how much more powerful they are than the 485Ms :p
     
  28. unfaix

    unfaix Notebook Consultant

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    You should try it first, lol

    Then I'll buy your 485 and slow upgrade :p
     
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    I know the 770M has worked nicely in non optimus systems but the 765M gave issues.
     
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    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Guess I'll scratch that plan. :p Only real game I play at the moment is Diablo 3when I have time. 485M SLI handles that at max settings real well.

    Sent from my XT912 using Tapatalk
     
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    Until GTA 5 is released for PC right ? Lol
     
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    485m sli will still be decent at that unless the port is really bad.
     
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    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    I've installed Linux Mint 15 on my X7200, and get random kernel errors that lock the system. :( think my windows BSOD issues are probably hardware. :(

    Anyone have a cheaperish 980x or 990x??


    Sent from my XT912 using Tapatalk
     
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    The problem is they were the only smaller process chips made so yeah, not cheap :(
     
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    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    OK, so I've been having lots of BSOD, and even Linux Mint has been crashing. A couple back I ram memtest86 and didn't have any errors. Although it was an old copy of memtest86.

    Since I installed Linux Mint, it also has a of memtest86 to boot too. I decided I'd boot to it. Ran it while I slept. Here's what I got. I think this might explain all the BSOD I've been having.

    I really hope it's the memory and not the CPU. I really want this problem fixed. This has been the first good news I've had trying to diagnose the issue. Just don't know how the memory could have gone bad

    Any idea if this is any Dimm in particular, or all 3 dimms are bad? I think it looks like a single Dimm. Just not sure which one.

    Would this explain why I can't boot with hyper threading?

    [​IMG]

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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    If your CPU is faulty then it could throw those too, can you get a single stick somewhere to borrow.
     
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    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Hmm :( that sucks.

    I may be able to get a single stick, but would have to borrow from somebody. Over the next few days I'll run each Dimm overnight to see if any particular one is failing. Once I find the bad one/s I'll pull it out try and boot with hyper threading.

    Sent from my XT912 using Tapatalk
     
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    Went to eat and got quite a few more errors. Over the next few nights I'll test each stick individually to see it only one stick is bad.

    [​IMG]

    Sent from my XT912 using Tapatalk
     
  39. Meaker@Sager

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    That's the best bet and see if you can borrow a stick to test too that way you are less likely to waste money.
     
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    Yea, at least right now to get 3x8GB of G.Skill will cost around $200. This Corsair Value Select :)o) RAM was like $100 for 24GB. No wonder. Looking at Newegg it looks like my story is common. Do you think this would have anything to do with my inability to turn on hyper threading? When I turn it on it sends me into a boot loop. System restarts as Windows is loading.
     
  41. FouchSoftware

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    Wondering if some of the brighter people on this forum can give me some help...

    I have a Sager NP7280 I bought back in Sept. of 2010. I installed 2x Intel X25M 160GB drives in RAID 0 with a WD 750GB Blue HD in the 3rd HD bay, and had 12 GB of RAM since I bought it new. I'm running an i7-980X. I am not overclocking.

    About 3-4 months ago I kept getting random system lock ups where the only way to recover was a hard reboot by holding down the power button for 4 seconds and forcing a reboot. This happened every few days for about a week until it corrupted the Windows 7 Pro OS. After reinstalling the OS this issue started again until I found out that it was Google Chrome that was locking up my machine. I went back to IE and the problem went away.

    After reinstalling the OS but before finding the above problem with Chrome, I decided to take the whole machine apart and clean out all the fans and re-paste the heat sinks. I found the temp sensor to the main heat sink/pipe had come lose. I re-epoxied it.

    So, the system was stable again for 3-4 months. Last week I decided to upgrade my RAM to 24 GB. I upgraded the BIOS to the latest from the Sager site at the same time. The system saw all 24GB of RAM and everything seemed fine. The only issue I saw was the RAM is 1,600MHz, but was only running @ 1,333 MHz.Don't see anyway to set it using the official BIOS. Later that day GeForce Experience said there was a new video driver version 331.xx. I downloaded and installed it. On the next reboot, Windows failed to restart. Once I did get it to restart, it seemed to be corrupted. Desktop gadgets would not show and many functions did not seem to respond. So, at this point it was clear I would need to reinstall Windows yet again.

    I decided this may be a time install Windows 8.1. I went out and bought a new 240GB Samsung 840 EVO drive to run as a single OS drive. After going through all the hassle of that, the machine ran for about 23 hours and then corrupted another OS. :-( The Samsung got into a state where I could not even format it when trying to reinstall Win 8.1 on it. I returned it to Best Buy as defective.

    Before that happened, I did try to run some stress tests using Intel XTU and was able to crash the system using either the 12 GB of old RAM or 2-3 sticks of the new RAM. Once the system would get to about 95-96°C after only a few minutes, it would simply shut down.

    The last thing I have done is removed the WD from the 3rd bay and the system seems a bit more reliable.

    At this point the Win 7 Pro install I have on the two Intel X25-m is not real stable, but I need to keep it intact until I can get a stable OS running on this machine. I'm thinking of ordering a Crucial M500 480GB drive.

    This is my daily machine and I have about $5K invested so I can't just walk away, but I need a solid machine.

    Any ideas?
     
  42. DR650SE

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    Created a bootable USB drive with memtest86 and let it run overnight. See if you have memory errors. Repast the CPU as well and clean it first. It shouldn't be getting that hot.

    Sent from XT912 / CM10.2
     
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    Ran the memtest86 for 8+ hours with no errors. Then booted back into Windows 7 Pro and got a MEMORY_MANGEMENT BSOD....restarted and it worked. . go figure....

    I'm going to try your suggestion of repasting all the heat sinks and try another stress test with XTU. Any recommendations of a good paste? I used the house brand Silver Thermal Compound from Best Buy. Looking at using Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound.

    Right now I'm seeing idle temps of 50-55°C. And will spike to 96°C before crashing when stress testing with Intel's XTU.
     
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    Yeah thats high. Also memtest wont be able to get every issue which can happen when multiple functions are happening at once.
     
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    I have a serious problem and I don't know where to get help.

    I already posted in the Sager/Clevo section, describing my problem with as much detail as possible, maybe too much, since people don't seem to actually be reading it and so far all I seem to be getting told is to stick my GPU in a oven.

    I understand there's tons of people like me asking for help from more experienced users, but please give a read at my post over here if you have the time: http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/735812-severe-graphical-corruption-all-over-screen-graphic-card-seems-premanently-damaged.html

    The juice of the problem is:

    - I have severe graphical corruption displayed all over my screen at all times (most noticeable with a black/dark background, see photo attached in the other thread) (the LCD screen itself is fine though)
    - the graphic card is basically not working/not being recognised, DirectX not working, stuck in resolution 1280x1024 (used to have 1920x1080), etc.


    I tried to localise the GPU within the laptop but couldn't find it. This prevents me from checking its physical status (as well as making wonder how can I possibly replace it with a new one if that's ultimately my only option).

    Thanks all for your time!
     
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    While waiting on the new thermal paste to arrive, I decided to act on a hunch. I noticed that on one of the two fans that cool the CPU one of them has it's intake blocked off. and the one over the unpopulated graphics card slots is open. So, I decided to switch the two. I called SAGER and they said that was by design, however my idle CPU core temp dropped from 50-55°C down to 42-46°C.

    Also, just ran the Memory test in Intel XTU that was crashing my machine with in 3-5 minutes. It never got above 85°C, where before it would shot up to 95°C and crash the machine.

    I also notices that at the back of the machine they also have the exhaust fins blocked off. I have not tried to remove the blocking plate yet.

    10-28-2013 1-12-54 PM.png
     
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    Your graphics card is under the main hatch and is under one of the single fan heatsinks (the CPU is under the dual fan assembly).
     
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    Hello everyone. I'm Larry and I have a problem. I buy too many laptops that I don't need and my family hates me for it.
    So I bought a members x7200 on here cause it was cheap as heck. I don't need it, but I'm not going to turn down portable power when it's so affordable.
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/notebooks-desktops-sale/735883-sold-clevo-x7200-675-a.html

    I am perfectly fine with the i7-950, that should be plenty. But I am wondering what my options are for upgrading the video card(s) at some point? I will only have the one power adapter (the last x7200 I owned had two adapters and the power bridge). So what should I be looking for as far as video card options? I don't need two 680m or two 780m. I have a deluxe desktop for uber gaming. I just want something that will give me a bit more power than the SLI 460m that are currently in there.

    I am not afraid to spend a little money, but I don't want to drop $1000 on the gpu upgrade. So something around the $500 range would be ideal, if it gets me into the 7970m or 680m performance arena...I don't want to spend $500 to get my 460m sli upgraded to a single 580m, I think that would be wasting money for very little improvement.
    Could I upgrade one of the cards to a 7970m? Or a single 680m If so, what specific card would I need? Would I need a different heatsink?
    Or could I run two 580m on my existing single power supply and heatsinks?

    I would prefer to keep everything working. I see an ebay auction for a x7200 compatible 7970m kit but it says I would not have hdmi out, or audio etc...will all of my options have those limitations?
    It would be used with an external LCD, preferably via DVI for a good portion of the time.

    Thanks for your help and support in these hard times...
     
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    7970M and 680M can work.
     
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