*** Official Clevo x7200 and Sager NP7280 owners lounge ***

Yes perfect! it match with the Black aluminum on the laptop and the size is just the same as the laptop

 

Don't forget that you can also use SRS Audio Sandbox or Breakaway Audio Enhancer to improve sound too. Both have demos and I have got great results from both, particularly Breakaway.

 

I wonder if the dual 6970 will be available on this rig. the 485ms are amazing I just cant seem to move my hand over to my wallet for some reason )) 3.8k is not a small sum

 

I was considering that as well, but it's unlikely a single GTX 485m will ever a) be easy to find or b) be below $650. By the time I feel my dual 470s are too slow or eclipsed by something else, I'll likely be ready to sell the laptop and move to a new platform (speculatively, Ivy Bridge + GTX 6xxs/AMD 78xxs). Also, I wanted something immediately faster than my m17x and a single GTX 485 would likely have been a tad slower than dual 5870s.

 

i know its off topic but... I'm leaving Afghanistan early! Tomorrow actually, so excited, finally get to give my x7200 internet!

 

I'd recommend Breakaway Audio Enhancer as well, it improved the max volume capability of my W860CU almost threefold. Hopefulyl this beast wont need it though.

 

Just had a thought, reading through the 8150+6970M forum. Do you guys think because of the SB chipset fiasco, that the 6970 will be delayed along with it? Since the only laptop it could come out on is the 7280 at this point, and I'm not sure how the debugging is done, but I'm sure they planned for the 6970M to come out mostly on the SB laptops? I don't want to bring hopes down, but it's just a thought I have been having, and I was wondering if that would have an impact at all?

 

It will most likely still be out on time. There are many laptops that should be able to upgrade to a 6970m

 

I can see your logic. I guess it also depends on how well games deal with SLI and how many can make use of it. In other words, how many games will force you to be limited to the performance of what ever single GPU you have installed.

 

Hello,

a new article from "Hothardware.com", this time in english :
The X7200 (Panther 2.0) with CF 6970m...

AMD Radeon HD 6970M Review w/ Eurocom - HotHardware

 

Wow, the 6970 pretty much clobbers the 470 in most games and benches.

 

Speedy has the SLI 470's, I would trust his scores over what we see in that report. Can you chime in Speedy?...
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I noticed XoticPC includes a bag with this laptop. Anyone have it? Is it any good?

Does any other retailer include bags, and how are they?

 

All orders of the Clevo x7200 or Sager NP7280 come with a standard carrying bag. Most all users like to upgrade this very basic case with a better one...
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Is that a diplomatic way of saying that the included bag isn't so good?

 

Spot on..

 

Unless they're swapping the one that comes from Clevo, it is a plain, black bag.

Design is basic enough to carry the laptop on one side, and split it wth some paper documents / books on the other. It's also a pain to use. My last Clevo (D900) bag at least unzipped down to the bottom so I could open it 180 degrees. This one only unzips only at the top.

And if you're looking to lug around the PSUs with this thing, it leaves a lot to be desired. The whole bag seems "stretched" when I put the PSU in the side pocket. I can't imagine what it would be like with two PSUs.

A picture from a Tom's Hardware review and a video (about 50s into the video)

 

Yeah, that definitely doesn't sound ideal. How is the padding though? Do you feel like the laptop is well-protected while inside the bag, or do you feel like it's still about as fragile as it would be outside of the bag? From the pictures it doesn't seem like the bag is really too protective.

 

A laptop this heavy would need either very dense padding, or ALOT of less dense padding. That bag offers neither. It is simply a means to conveniently transport the laptop. You are spending $3500 on a laptop, it is worth it to drop another $100 on a good bag for it

 

Not much. By squeezing it, it feels like there is about a 1/16" or a little over 1mm of protection sewn into the fabric on either side.

So the bag's usability depends on how you will be using it. For instance, I just use mine as a way to get a machine to/from work. It doesn't travel outside that, and I think for what I need it suits me fine.

However, if you will be out in public where things can bump into it or will be traveling over long distances, then you might want to take a look at one of those nifty backpacks people are posting on this thread.

 

to me the bag is a courtesy. It holds the computer... and that's about it. i can fit one PSU, but not 2. I consider it a dustcover for the computer. there really isn't enough protection for a computer. Along with that, shoulder bag + x7200 = shoulder pain.

Get a roller bag like the Targus XL or any other roller bag, or a backpack. The computer +2 PSU is close to 20lbs i'd say. You really can't comprehend the size until you see it in person... it's awesome. It dwarfs my 17" macbook Pro.

side note I brought it to a friends house for a local game of COD with some friends, and when i brought it out it was like "holy S***. [mouth gaping open] ...yes it it that amazing.

 

Exactly. Why on earth would you put a $3000 laptop in a bag you weren't sure about or weren't entirely please with? I paid $150 a couple years ago for a built-like-a-tank Slappa for an XPS 1730 and have not worried about it since -- I expect to re-use it when my x7200 arrives. I'd consider the included back as no more than a courtesy dust-cover.

 

Ok so the question is which backpack to you all recommend?

 

I have and like both the Mobile Edge Premium Backpack and the Alienware Orion Backpack (also made by Mobile Edge)

 

FWIW, I was looking at the AW Orion. Although if they're the same, I'll probably go w/ whatever is cheaper - A/W or Mobile Edge.

 

The AW backpack is made by Mobile Edge.....thus the excellent quality

 

I've been using the AW Orion BP aggressively for the past 18 months - superb quality.

 

i'm looking at the slappa M.A.S.K which someone recently mentioned. If someone uses it with the x7200, would they mind commenting on how well it fits? it looks like there is a specific sleeve for the laptop. is it snug? does it fit as intended?

M.A.S.K. Laptop Backpack

 

I think Sacreddreams is using that backpack you should contact him

i have to agree with you Superb!

 

I can comment on the Slappa Ballistic Ultra (correction: Aura) which I've been using for the past 1 1/2 years and it will likely last me another 10 years if I want. Huge amount of room, thick material and quality hardware. Not a ton of pockets, but it's been the easiest laptop bag I've used insofar as quick access for going through security. It also has a slip pocket on the back for attaching to luggage.

 

I'm using that one. Although it fits, there is a tip or the laptop showing out of the laptop compartment, and by tip I mean 2 cm or so. Other than that, it is enough to put your mouse, keyboard, mouse pad, and everything you have in it. (but sadly not a PS3)

 

AMD Radeon HD 6970M Review w/ Eurocom - HotHardware take a look at the update here, it seems like nvidia got involved into the review...seems pretty desprate to me

 

Funny (and telling) that nVidia doesn't dispute the test results, but the fact that they compared the 6970 to 470m and that Eurocoms prices are inflated, not their highest-end GPU. Seems to be indicative that 6970 will still sit between 470m and 485m -- and likely be priced better (unless there are price "adjustments" by resellers).

 

How pathetic.... My respect for nvidia just dropped 90 points.... wow..

Theres nothing bad about a company defending ther product, but going to a review of their competitor and whining about obvious facts and making the reviewer put in misleading claims is just pathetic... This seriously makes me reconsider the 485 for the simple act of spite to these sallys.

 

im still a nvidia fan
let see crysis 2 come out meant to be played or future is fusion

 

It's 100% fair for Nvidia to ask them to test AMD's fastest chip versus theirs.

 

That's all well and good, and while I do care who has the absolute fastest mobile GPU, I'd much rather see the closest relative comparison in terms of price when looking at GPU reviews -- that's what I care about when making a purchase decision. At present pricing, it looks like the 470m is the closest in price to the 6970. In fact, if Eurocom's pricing holds true for others as it stands today on their site, a 470m and a 6970 cost EXACTLY the same price. So, Apart from establishing a wider field of GPU performance, why would I want to see 6970 compared to GTX 485m, a card that costs over $350 more?

For example, I never understood why reviewers put the 5870 and GTX 480 desktop cards next to each other: when GTX 480 was released it was $500+ and a 5870 was $300-350... of course they're not going to provide the same performance: they each target different market segments.

 

Is it likely that we will see a sandy bridge ( desktop ) refresh of the x7200 in the near future? It would be very nice to have a 2600k or something in the x7200. The 980X still outperforms the 2600k in most multi-thread apps, but the 2600k is really impressive per clock/core.

 

I would not expect anything until LGA2011 is out. The desktop cpu clevo models are always top of the line not midstream

 

I'd venture to make the same guess. Historically, Clevo's top-end laptop comes out a good 6-12 months or longer after the top-of-the-line chipsets are released. For example, x58 came out in November 2008 and the x7200 came out (actually got in consumers' hands) in September 2010; the x9600(?) came out 12 months after x48 was released. In summary, the initial specs, engineering and cert cycle likely takes a good while.

Assuming LGA 2011 (x68?) is released in November this year, it's likely the earliest we'll see an x7200 replacement will be Summer 2012, likely later.

Another possibility, however, is Clevo and partners are looking at developing a top-of-the-line model based on x67 (however, this would go against what they've done historically). If true, the engineering and cert process (if it had even started), and definitley procurement of boards, would likely delayed a bit due to the SB recall. If development was in the initial stages, Clevo may even decide to scrap the project altogether and just wait for LGA 2011

This is all, of course, just educated speculation... But who knows, the x7200 isn't even listed at Xotic anymore.

 

Do you mean Xotic PC?

 

Yes he does, jclausius.

 

Probably it is a mistake, since I can still see the x7200 listed at the website. It is interesting that it seems neither Xotic Pc nor Sager offer the 470 Sli option for the x7200 anymore though.

 

Assuming harmattan does mean that, then perhaps something is different from his locale? For me, Xotic PC's 17" laptop site has the Sager NP7280 in the bottom row.

If I'm not mistaken, somewhere earlier within this thread Justin from Xotic PC made a statement about dropping the nVidia 470M from the NP7280's configuration.

I might be mistaken, but I want to say it might had to do with the price differential to the 480M's and performance differential to the 470M's.

 

^^^^Yes the nVidia GeForce GTX 470M is phased out on on the Sager NP7280. Sorry...

 

Just wondering if there are any concerns for people who have already ordered or are using the 470M's?

 

Im really liking the new discounted 2x 485 you have without the extra ac adapter .... just to verify, those two adapters are not a necessity correct?







Also to everyone who knows... whats the best SSD to purchase for the x7200 and put in raid 0 (2 ssd) under 500$ ??????

Speed is the most important factor, not size

 

There are NO concerns with the 470M's at all in this model or the other models. It was just a decision not to offer them for this machine that is all...

 

This is true. Unless you are going to be SUPER EXTREME, there is no need for the 2 PSU's in this machine with the SLI 485's...
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Good to know .