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    *** Official Clevo x7200 and Sager NP7280 owners lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by italian.madness, May 26, 2010.

  1. lipoufski

    lipoufski Notebook Guru

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    I tried the modded BIOS and I reverted back because the XTU no longer worked after flashing to the new bios not allowing me to OC. I know I could have used SetFSB, but it is too limited with no voltage control and such. The options were cool, but I didn't see anything in there that would allow me to overclock or add stability.
     
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    the newest sager bios unloocked is what i have and the xtu works fine and you have all the oc pos like in xtu but in the bios lawqt and me are using the same bios .
    you must had the one before this one unloocked tried that one had the same thing .here is the new one File name: Clevo x7200 Sager_728bv05cs OC MOD.rar File size: 1.09 MB try it and say thank to kizwan over on the bios request thread
     
  3. lipoufski

    lipoufski Notebook Guru

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    Can you share that with me?
    The one I had was an unlocked bios but no OC settings.
    Perhaps the one you have is different. Is there a memory divider?
     
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    animecrisis Notebook Guru

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    I'm going to start a revolution to ban these annoying Captas
     
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    lawtq Notebook Evangelist

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    It does have a memory devider, (and many, many more options plus oc features) it just states whether you want your mem to run at 800, 1066 or 1333, but it doesnt always register upon booting up, doesnt register 90% of the time.

    This unlocked bios that the amazing wizard kizwan unlocked is still an unlocked bios of a crap bios, that doesnt like any tweaking of memory settings at all, I have found this out after many wasted hours :(

    Cant wait for a good oc/memory friendly bios to come out, imagine of kizwan sprinkles his magic over it and totally unlockes it, happy days
     
  7. lipoufski

    lipoufski Notebook Guru

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    Yeah I think I'll wait for a memory friendly bios. That is if they ever provide one. I'm really not sure why this is the case. When I bought this thing it cost me a pretty good chunk of change and I would have expected more overclocking support. It doesn't make sense for people to try to overclock in XTU changing host clock when you can't change memory divider and then having the system not boot and having to disassemble the machine to remove the damn battery. For some reason that just annoys the heck out of me. I realize it's a laptop, but it is a laptop for enthusiasts with a desktop CPU which should provide desktop overclocking features. Overclocking is just plain broken with anything other than the extreme processor or extremely limited. Please Clevo, Eurocom, Sager etc. Give us the features to make this machine truely amazing! Can I get an Amen! lol
     
  8. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    This is actually the most overclocking friendly model clevo has ever done.....should have done your homework haha

    Don't let the desktop CPU fool you, this is NOT a desktop
     
  9. lipoufski

    lipoufski Notebook Guru

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    I assumed when I purchased the machine and not that much information was available at the time and overclocking support was a listed feature. Silly me assumed that overclocking actually worked.
    Don't get me wrong on this. This machine is plenty fast at the stock speeds, but I was just hoping for a little more breathing room, and it's not like it's not technically feasable for them to offer more support this being a desktop CPU/CHIPSET. Trust me I did alot of homework. I just wish that more information was given as to the exact limitations to overclocking. I think memory settings are the big limitation for those who couldn't opt for the 980 CPU. I was so fed up with my 950 and trying to get an overclock that would stick after reboot I went out and bought a 980. Glad I did tho even if I have to do it with TB settings. But I feel for you guys with non Extreme CPU's.
    Just sayin.
     
  10. wwoods

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    Eh....even though I have a extreme CPU, not everyone is into OC'ing....just sayin


    and for those who are interested, IE9 is out
     
  11. animecrisis

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    Sounds like I need to start taking more programming courses
     
  12. animecrisis

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    OC'n is like dating a hot women! OK just without the ing, moaning, and complaining!
     
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    Torment78 Notebook Evangelist

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    jclausius,

    Thought I would post a final raid5 issue post. I consider the issue resolved. The Raid5 has been running great since drive replacement, so it was a bad drive and not the controller (for which I am VERY happy).
     
  15. Justin@XoticPC

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    6970 ETA is late March for those interested. :) 460M to 6970 will be $245 460M to Crossfire 6970's $695 (w/o 2nd power adapter)
     
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    MALIBAL Company Representative

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    The 6970M is now available on the X7200, it will start shipping at the end of the month.
     
  17. oldstyle

    oldstyle Notebook Consultant

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    Posted 1 minute apart. :D
     
  18. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    The email comes at the same time to Authorized Resellers. It is the one that sees it first, post first... :)
    _
     
  19. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Haha, right on! I was just in the middle of posting it :)
     
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    icemanmelting Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've had this beast for more than a month now, and one of the things that has been bothering me, is the absence of a system to change the powerplan with a button or combination of buttons like asus has on their laptops. So i developed an application to do it. If there is someone interested, let me know, and i will post a link, or give me your e mail and i will send it to you.
     
  21. lipoufski

    lipoufski Notebook Guru

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    I know everyone is not into overclocking, but I am. :)
    Now what does that have to do with the price of tea in China. lol
    I love this machine mind you. I just was hoping for more options in the overclocking department. I am one of those that likes to push a machine to its limits. I'm sure I'm not the only one. That is just part of the fun! :)
    I'm not trying to be negitive about the machine after all I bought one. I am just hoping Clevo will give us more tweak options.
     
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    icemanmelting Notebook Enthusiast

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    Here goes the link, if you want, test it and tell me what you think. your opinion counts. Power Management
     
  23. Räy

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    I've been looking around for an all around workstation/desktop replacement and the x7200 seems to blow away everything. I will be using the machine for college majoring in Mechanical Engineering with full use in Autodesk Inventor, AutoCad, SolidWorks and etc. I also enjoy relatively hard core gaming though my desktop with a phenom ii x3 720 BE and ati 5850 plays pretty much anything on the market as a comparison. Obviously I can't lug my desktop around especially if Purdue sends me all over the US for co-ops. I'm not some super rich white boy that sees super cool neon and extraterrestrial as an excuse to blow money but obviously buying something in this price range means that I expect it to last for at least four years. I waited for the 6970s since Nvidia always has ridiculous pricing for that reason.

    In before cool story bro, I was wondering if anyone uses their x7200 for serious Engineering work as it makes me feel a bit better about blowing so much money. Also I would assume that the difference between using the i7 960 vs. 990x is pretty much useless in terms of anything other than benchmarking. I haven't been able to find CAD benchmarks since mostly people use zeons but even then I could always buy one and install it myself.

    The specs I was looking into:

    -17.3" FHD 16:9 "Matte Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Anti-Glare Screen w/ 72% NTSC Color Gamut (1920x1080)
    -Intel® Core™ i7-960 (3.2-3.46GHz) 8MB L3 Cache, 4.8 GT/sec QPI, LGA 1366
    -CrossFire Dual ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD6970's 2048MB (4096MB Total) w/GDDR5 DX11 Video Cards (User Upgradeable) WITHOUT Extra AC Adapter & Power Converter Box
    -6,144MB DDR3 1066MHz Memory (3 SODIMMS)

    It's $2,800 without the Matte screen but the regular screen is pretty terrible so it would be worth it so it comes to about $3,000. Add in some random $200 three year warranty(I would assume it would be a good idea since this thing could easy fry an egg on it) and 3 WD scorpio black 500gb in Raid 5 for about $180.
     
  24. cookinwitdiesel

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    The 960 should MORE than suffice for your engineering work. I used my R1 for the last year and a half of my EE degree and it did great with things like MatLab and LabView. You should be fine for AutoCad and other programs. Make sure you have enough memory, as those use more memory than just gaming or benchmarking. You can also sell your desktop since this will be much more powerful ;)

    "I'm not some super rich white boy that sees super cool neon and extraterrestrial as an excuse to blow money"

    I am sorry but this is just a grossly ignorant and closed minded statement.... I have an Alienware because at the time it was the most powerful laptop money could buy. It cost about the EXACT same as a comparable D901c would have at the time (the best Clevo had to offer). Do not go thinking that all Alienware owners are just brats who like shiny lights. If I was buying a laptop now and not in 2009 it would be an x7200.

    Do realize that just because you do not prefer the same as someone else it does not make you better than them.
     
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    Actually I've been impressed with the 6970 mx17 r3 as it is competitively priced against the 8170 and I do understand that most of the knowledgeable people would buy a laptop for the hardware rather than outer appearance. I guess I can't get past being screwed over by dell years ago. Though I was actually interested in seeing what Alienware has up their sleeves with their mx18. I would think they would stick in a Sandy Bridge mobile cpu which would increase battery life and might require a smaller psu. But in all honesty I wonder if clevo will revise the x7200/8100 with a z68 chipset. But even the 2600k and the i7 960/990x give about the same frame rates in game. I have seen some of the Sandy Bridge E leaked screen shots but I wonder how much of a difference they make when this generation is capped by gpu power rather than cpu. But though the Sandy Bridge mobile cpus are very powerful, I wonder if it really is worth the upgrade from an i7 nehalem desktop to ivy bridge if cougar point boards support what Intel claims besides power consumption.
     
  26. oldstyle

    oldstyle Notebook Consultant

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    If we are teaching lessons about acceptance and not lumping people together I hardly find your response to be such. Your belief poster was talking about or to you is the height of internalization and you should maybe consider?

    I am sorry you are stuck with an AlienWare.

    Edit: If poster posted the same on the AlienWare section I might respond different. It was posted here in the Clevo section I do not think you should draw the insult you did.
     
  27. jclausius

    jclausius Notebook Virtuoso

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    We'll that's good news indeed. A drive should be easy to RMA.
     
  28. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    Not insulted at all. What I should have really said is just "alienware is competitively priced against clevo for the hardware you get"

    Yes asus is cheaper but that is because you typically get less. Not in the same league as alienware and clevo.
     
  29. animecrisis

    animecrisis Notebook Guru

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    WOOT! I just got my x7200 in the mail!! I am installing stuff for it now--

    12 GB ddr3- Xeon 3680, six core, 3.33 ghz 12 mb L3 Cache, Nvidia 2x 485M (SLI)- 1 Toshiba 512 GB SSD- 2 Seagate Momentus 7200, 500 GB data drives
     
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    Has anyone with a X7200 gotten the 4th CPU fan? I did but the intake vent was covered (weird). Tore off the unused vent off my D900F and swapped the vents. Hehe forth fan now is installed.
     
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    That is sick. Congrats. You might not be into it but benchmarks would be very cool. ;)
     
  32. lipoufski

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    Thx for the Bios. This one is waay better than the one I flashed before. You are right it is basically the same settings in XTU. I prefer overclocking in the bios directly anyways. :)
     
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    I will but it will be a while currently sliding the DDR3 and the 6300N wireless card inside it. Then I have to reinstall my OS. Sucks I did not realize the antennas for the wireless came pre-installed so I picked some up. Oh well.
     
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    Yeah, sure. Nothing like a quick Google search to find your file!
     
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    I was going to buy 8 GB sodimms for this computer but they wanted a 1000 dollars per sodimm.... These 4 GBx3 cost me like 35 each
     
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    Its interesting to note that while I am working on both my D900F and my new X7200 that the X7200 seems to have been MUCH better built and designed.
     
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    Passmark score - 2314.4 (overall)
     
  38. wwoods

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    Will run that test later after work, right now I have 3 VM's running, so the test would not be fair in my opinion
     
  39. lawtq

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    Cant wait to see some gpu benchmarks from you 485 sli'ers, wow
     
  40. jclausius

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    Where did you find that? Gotta Link? I can only find 4GB 204 pin modules.
     
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    I think EuroCom offers the 8GB dimms - but like he noted, for a crazy price
     
  42. jclausius

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    That's weird. All pictures and quotes from Clevo show three fans. Everyone who's posted here all seem to have three fans as well.

    In any case, Clevo engineers have publicly said one of the vents should remain covered to create proper airflow inside the case.
     
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    Thanks. Went to check it out.

    Wonder why the third party vendors like newegg or zipzoomfly don't carry these yet? Probably too cost prohibitive at this point.
     
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    Hey mythlogic,
    Thanx for the advice, if I understand you right...I can install 3x 2gb HyperX sodimms and achieve tri-channel capability with oc potential on an i7 980x ?
     
  45. wwoods

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    I hve some linked in my sig....
     
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    Well crap.......woke up this morn, computer was sitting at a screen saying couldent boot off the CD ??...so I power off and power on, the raid utility said 2 drives have failed....what the hell, so I ctl-I , it asks me if I want to recover, I say yes, it puts a drive intp degraded (drive o) but drive 2 is still failed.

    I boot up and now am rebuilding drive 2 again.

    email to XoticPC being sent now......
     
  47. jclausius

    jclausius Notebook Virtuoso

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    Please don't label me a jinx!!

    You say you were at a "post" POST boot message regarding a boot device. Did your machine reboot due to a Windows update or something? If so, what did win update do?
     
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    For those of you who've pulled the CPU, did you take a look at the CPU heatsink/cooler? What is it comprised of? Aluminum? Copper? Silver?

    Thanks.
     
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    no thats all about fortune
    there are a lot of retail 980x........but only a few can oc very high and run default clock at very low votage and temp........we call these good chips "雕"
    for those have to add a lot votage when oc and much hotter when running default clock........we call these "烙賽"
    unless you can chose which batch of 980x you want when buying them :D
     
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    copper :)
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