Official Sager NP8130/Clevo P151HM1 Owners Lounge

Wow it worked! thanks alot!

 

Just placed order with xotic. Soon as I know when it ships I'll pick up an SSD as well.

 

Do you guys recommended opting for the IC-Diamond Thermal Compound option? or is Sager good with their stock thermal paste?

 

i'm not sure how their stock thermal paste is but i went with the IC-Diamond Thermal. Its not an expensive upgrade and I'm sure if you do a lot of intensive gaming it could be helpful

no problem haha, it took me awhile to find out how to do it so glad I could help.

 

hey guys, I'm planning to purchase the Sager NP 8130 but after knowing the random freezes issue, I'm quit worried about it.

Do you guys have any comments/opinions?
Should I place an order now?
Please help!
Thanks in advance.

 

Actually I think that freeze issue was with models shipped before the sandy bridge was fixed. It didn't have anything to do with the sandy bridge chip but it was something with Windows I think, and the new NP8130s have had this issue fixed.

I can tell you that personally I have not experienced any random freezes.
Yes you should place an order now if you want your laptop soon

 

I see. Thanks for your information.

 

Yeah but what if we all ordered this computer and after a few weeks they all start randomly freezing... Now that would be a sob story worth of a Disney feature film. It would be animated methinks...

 

You've got the point batman, but I'm so desperate to grab the "Beast".

 

I've had mine for a few days now and I've had absolutely no issues whatsoever (no freezes or crashes). I don't think that's something you should be worried about at this point, whatever it was, it seems to have been fixed.

 

I don't remember where I saw this (maybe here somewhere), but someone made a test with 2 laptops with and without and claimed that it kept the peak temperatures 5-6 degrees cooler than the stock paste...

If true, it'd say it's significant enough to warrant the small extra (to save your lap!)

 

On a similar note don't put laptops on your lap, especially gaming ones because you can suffocate the laptop and reduce your fertility all in one go.

 

A question to NP 8130 owners.

Would the text looks too small (FHD on a 15.6" LCD)? I tried to find a store to check it out myself but can't find a store (Bestbuy, Staples, etc.) that carry a 15.6" laptop with FHD display.

I am debating getting a NP 5170 or NP 8130. Beside a better GPU what else that justify the price difference? will there be anything difference in build quality?

What is the battery life with normal internet access (no gaming)?

Thanks a bunch.

 

You get better cooling and a somewhat quieter operation with the 8130. You wouldn't be able to get optimus on the 8130, obviously. And no, all of clevo's laptops are made with the highest quality, so you're getting pretty much the best chassis.

The battery life while using the internet...you should expect no more than 2-3 hours.

Mr. Mysterious

 

You can dynamically size Windows 7 to make font, the UI and Icons larger if you have a hard time seeing them.

 

For battery life on mine I got 3 and half hours with half brightness wifi on and internet and itunes open. I was very suprised by the battery life. A lot better then expected

 

Heyyy not bad. This machine is still being confined to a desk, lol When I want battery life, I'll just use my netbook.

Mr. Mysterious

 

i was also thinking to get a NP5160, but after reading that it has some heat issues and seeing that 8130 has a stock matte screen(yes!), a better GPU and better cooling, I went for Np8130 ...

 

Hi,

Indeed, with the default windows settings, things are a bit small (though very crisp). I found settings windows at 125% normal size produces a "normal" sized interface.

 

excellent - thank you for the data point.

How are the speakers?

 

They are actually pretty goodfor laptop speakers and they do get pretty loud when you turn them up. I still use external speakers though.

 

Really good for laptop speakers. The sub woofer on the bottom adds a bit of kick to all sound. The real champ here, in my opinion, is the THX software. It makes the sound for the laptop.

 

I'm going to get mine next week sometime before friday! Whooo I'm so close I can taste it! Not that I...normally....lick...laptops...never mind.

Mr. Mysterious

 

it shipped?????? ARRGGGHHHH!!!!! IVE LOSTTTT

 

Did it ship???

 

Yup. It has shipped. Pay the man!

Problem is, I live so far away it's gonna take a while to get here.

Mr. Mysterious

 

Bah! I was hoping that mine would have shipped by today. I believe that I placed my order around the same time. I did however order from PowerNotebooks rather than Xotic and I believe PN's policy is to notify the day after it has been shipped. So, I suppose there is still hope.

I don't know how much longer I can wait. Spent the last 4 months using my old Toshiba ( Toshiba Satellite M35X-S114 Review - Laptops - CNET Reviews) and it's starting to wear on me...

 

Nice! I hope that means mine will ship soon since we ordered on the same day.

 

Yup! That means people who have ordered from the 9th - 16th of March (from XoticPC anyways) should get theirs within the next two weeks.

Mr. Mysterious

 

I bet that mine has shipped too, I just can't check my email... gmail's pop server is DEAAAADDDD!!! or just acting up? i don't know...

But you would be surprised at how fast ground shipping actually is, for me the estimate is 3 days.

 

Cheer up; This means that the laptops are moving through the process much faster than they used to during and after the disaster with the SB SATA controllers, and that we're getting our laptops much sooner than we anticipated!

I swear, at the time of buying my laptop, I was resigned to wait for an entire month before it arrived on my doorstep. Are our resellers awesome or what?

Mr. Mysterious

 

We ordered on the same day and I haven't gotten an email about my laptop shipping yet. Yours went into phase 2 a day before mine though so maybe you do have an email waiting for you.

Waiting for the eCheck to clear added an extra day before my order went to phase 2.

 

Aww just got into my email (it was a skewed authentication i think) and I have not gotten any email from xotic... I guess i have to wait until next week.

I guess that the rush order that you beat xotic into giving you really paid off.

I live in Seattle, WA which isn't terribly far from sager... Maybe I will still get mine first!!!

 

I beleive you can access your account information to see if it shipped via xotic pc (if you used them). I'm not sure how detailed account info is with other resellers.

 

Well if you do get yours before I get mine, then I will admit defeat But until then, it is SO on.

On a more personal note, I have been wrestling with the choice between a 8150 with the 460M or my current 8130. Call it buyer's remorse or whatever, but I really need someone to convince me that the upgrade options for the 8130 are not as limited as I think they are...

However, I really do think that once I get my machine, all my doubts will vanish and I'll really start enjoying everything.

Mr. Mysterious

 

Uhh its called the gtx 560m... it made its debut already at ces 2011. It will probably be available in early 2012 and it will most definitely work with the 8130. I'm guessing it will cost something like 300 dollars and you might have to buy it as a replacement part.

 

Really? Awesome! Thanks, that cheers me up a hell of a lot more. I'll go and do some research on the GTX560M...if I were to guess, not that much of a boost above the 485M, but I'll take any improvements, thanks.

Edit: Bah! It's not looking good...But at least I'm seeing people say that the 460M is nicely overclockable!

Mr. Mysterious

 

Yeah it is only a 5.4% improvement, but there will also be a competing ATI family of cards, and one of them will be ideal for an upgrade. All you need to do is watch what sager does, they will replace the 8130 sooner or later and they will use a similar configuration... you can just copy the parts that they will use.

Also... you should not feel bad about having buyer's remorse, because I regret buying the computer without my logo painted on the back. I'm going to have trouble convincing people that it is a legitimate replacement for the bat-top pc.

 

Well either ways, I'm set for the next couple of years....I'll start saving money up for an upgrade for a graphics card right now. But I won't actually upgrade it until further down the line.

Will definitely overclock my GC after a year though...then I'll buy some thermal paste and a good notebook cooler (probably the SF-19). This machine should be quite relevant for the next few years. I know, I know, people say that future-proofing is pointless and a waste of money. But it feels good to own a decent system, and the price is ridiculous for the components that I'm getting.

Mr. Mysterious

 

I sorta have a little of that, buyers remorse too, but considering I was going to get the np5160, since it covered all of my needs, the 460m will give me a little room to breathe. I'm so excited they're finally rolling out hopefully mines will ship next week, and I can finally put an end to this ridiculously long wait.

And yes, you can't future proof electronics, nuff sed.

 

It must suck that you have been waiting over a month and mr.mysterious gets his shipped after 10 days of waiting... CURSE YOU SAGER!!!! first they kill my parents, then they take a long time to build my laptop!

 

Lol, me too dude. I was pretty set on the 5160 but then I was like "nahhh, go for it!"

Uhhh...that was Joe Chill, Bruce.

Mr. Mysterious

 

HE WAS A SAGER EMPLOYEE!!!!! NOW MY PARENTS ARE DEEAAADDDDD...

I can't even talk to Robin anymore...




CURSE YOU SAGER!!!!

 

Pah, the backhand's much more cooler.

Mr. Mysterious

 

It was the sixties, back then I only hit robin with my palms...

 

Four business dayyssss!!! The wait is killing me!

I wonder if UPS ships, as in actually moves their products, on Saturday too....if it does, I'm going to get it sooner.

Really now, what's preventing anyone from putting a 485M or even a 6970M in an 8130? If it's the power brick then everyone would be flocking to the 8130 instead of buying the 8150 or 8170....But that's not happening.

Mr. Mysterious

 

I think it is the power brick, wouldn't you need a more powerful power brick to be able to use the 485m in the 8130?

 

Just grab the 485M if you can, trade out the cards, and use the more powerful 8150 ac adapter. Game on...

 

If that's the case, I'd rather go for the 6970M and the 8150 AC Adapter...

Mr. Mysterious

 

I originally plan to buy Asus G73SW-XA1, but since amazon now post it as unavailable and no possible date when it will be available again I try to search for the alternatives and come to Sager N8130 which has almost same spec but even cheaper..

Few questions here:

1. What is the memory brand that used in NP8130? If I plan to upgrade to 16GB, can I add any brand of memory like Crucial or Corsair DDR3 1333/10600?
I asked this because I have experience when upgrading my macbook where same brand (Kingston) of memory but with different chipset manufacturer it won't start properly most of the time.

2. I saw a lot of the folks here are upgrading to Intel 6230 Wireless adapter, what are really the main difference with the standard wireless N that comes as the default? I try to read from page 1-60, and then jump to 111-120.. Maybe I miss out some of the discussion here

3. I am still considering between NP8130 and NP8170 mainly for the larger 17.3" screen. But they are few hundred bucks more expensive, and at lower spec starting point (4GB RAM, 320GB HDD). I know some folks stating that it support 485m card, but I am just casual gamer and don't want to pay that much for 485m. If 460m is enough, what are other considerations to get NP 8170? *glossy or matte is fine for me anyway, because I only use it at home