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    Official Sager NP8130/Clevo P151HM1 Owners Lounge

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by opelfrost, Jan 9, 2011.

  1. ElBlufer

    ElBlufer Notebook/NBR Addict

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    I wouldn't say that's too much paste, it doesn't even reach to the end on the upper left corner.

    PS: To apply it, don't spread it. Just put a bead in the middle and press the heatsink back down. It'll spread on it's own.
     
  2. Richteralan

    Richteralan Notebook Evangelist

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    Remove the black plastic sheet.

    You can clean better with less residue left between the plastic sheet and the chip.
     
  3. svaalbard

    svaalbard Notebook Enthusiast

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    Two "issues" i have noticed is that my Sagers left shift key seems a little easy to press down than the other keys.

    Also, whenever I restart Steam, the audio chugs up and lowers down in output volume(you can still hear sounds/music but it reduces in volume notably)...dont know why this is the cause.
     
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    Is there a cheap hdd caddy for the optical slot?
     
  5. Mr_Mysterious

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    Yes there is. Ebay it and a caddy with 12.7mm height should fit. Make sure it's a SATA-to-SATA connection.

    Mr. Mysterious
     
  6. deerhurst

    deerhurst Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well. I did it. Put in an order at malibal for the p151hm1. Had to go with the hard drive caddy as I think I'll be missing dual HDDs from my old ASUS G50. I think the little p151 will be a he'll of alot faster and it's atleast 2 pounds lighter then my ASUS at it's current configuration.

    Thanks to the malibal customer service people I was able to get more knowledge, make the right decision for me and save a pretty good chunk of change. Thanks guys! I hope to see that laptop shipping out soon and can't wait to play with it.
     
  7. MALIBAL

    MALIBAL Company Representative

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    Hi, I'm so glad we could help out. Please send us a PM if you need anything else, thanks! :)
     
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    wispofdoom Notebook Geek

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    Is the 6230 wireless card worth getting over the stock card?
     
  9. ElBlufer

    ElBlufer Notebook/NBR Addict

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    The 6230 is working out pretty well for me.
     
  10. Nascentes

    Nascentes Notebook Consultant

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    Same here. Although, I'm not sure I would miss it if I had gone stock since whenever I'm somewhere with good enough hardware to utilize it, I have a direct line anyway.

    Although a little future proofing never hurt anybody :D
     
  11. Anthony@MALIBAL

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    Depends on your usage and the networking equipment you've got at home. If you've got a higher end N router that can support 300Mbps or one of the handful that can do 450Mbps (or plan to get one), then the upgrade is worth it. The 6230 has 2x2 antennas and can do 300Mbps, versus the 150Mbps on the stock WiFi. While it doesn't increase your range, persay, it will give you more reliable signal within the same range.

    It's particularly handy if you do a lot of file transfers over WiFi to your LAN though. Most home broadband speeds are 30Mbps or less, so even the integrated WiFi will be 5x faster than you can surf the web. However, sharing files over the network can be done at 1Gbps nowadays, so the extra speed is useful there.

    So, in short: if you have the hardware, could benefit from the stronger signal, and like the speed over LAN connections, it's worth it.
     
  12. Electric Shock

    Electric Shock Notebook Evangelist

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    Upgrading to a 6230 or something else is cheap also if you want to do it in the future. They only cost like ~$30.

    I don't do any file transfers and my home internet is only 50 mbps but I have to restrict it to 802.11g anyway because of other people in the house/roommates who have crappy old technology that won't work with N.
     
  13. botfly10

    botfly10 Notebook Guru

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    I have an issue with a certain web page I visit a lot (a browser based chat) where text artifacts appear on the left side of the screen where that particular text was never even located.

    If i move a window over the artifact, they disappear.

    Anyone know if that is my vid card or the site itself?

    Also, sometimes in MS Excel, borders of some fields disappear and become invisible, even though they are still there. Same question - is that an issue with excel, or my vid card?

    Thanks.
     
  14. xydin

    xydin Notebook Enthusiast

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    Are your graphics card drivers up to date, or installed at all?

    Sounds like what often happens when your graphic card's drivers aren't installed.
     
  15. MarkZinger

    MarkZinger Notebook Enthusiast

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    My 8130 will be here in 2 days!

    So excited!
     
  16. Nascentes

    Nascentes Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah. Video card. Try updating your driver or trying a different version all together.
     
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    Fredrick90005 Notebook Guru

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    Hi guys, i am new at the site and im in a market of buying the Sager Np8150. I''m thinking of getting the i7-2820QM with gtx 580 and 16gb ram. Now is it smart to get the 16gb 1600 ram? cuz i'm one of those people that wants to get the best, but i'm thinking 16gb is really worth it?

    I'm going to be using the laptop for mostly, video/picture editing and gaming. Now i want a laptop that will last for at least 4yrs

    Thanks in advance guys :D
     
  18. SaosinEngaged

    SaosinEngaged Notebook Evangelist

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    For your usage, and the fact that you want this for a solid 4 years, I'd definitely take the 16GB of 1600 RAM. The standard for RAM always increases and is usually dependent upon the work you're doing.EDIT: Remember something with RAM though; it's incredibly easy to upgrade yourself. If it came down to it, I'd put extra money into the 2920XM and upgrade the RAM yourself down the road. 8GB would be very solid for the next year or so, and you can end up with a beast of a processor.

    Because of the sheer horsepower of SB and Nvidia 4-5 series and AMD 6000 series this generation, you have a VERY good chance still having a beast computer 4 years down the road.

    I would look at the 2920XM if you have the cash. Being able to OC to 4.0GHZ with SB architecture means your computer will even be spanking some desktop machines.
     
  19. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

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    To be honest, save your money on the 1600MHz RAM and just get the 1333MHz. It makes little difference in overall performance of your machine.
     
  20. Anthony@MALIBAL

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    I'd even saying that for picture editing and gaming, the upgrade to the 2820 and 2920 may be unnecessary. The picture editing won't use that much CPU, and gaming will be limited by the 580m long before say, a 2720qm processor. However, the video editing may make it worth it. If he's got the money, then it's still a worthy upgrade especially if it's going to be a main machine for 4 years.

    In a perfect world, mobile GPU's would be equivalent to their desktop counterparts and would keep up with the CPU bumps.
     
  21. ElBlufer

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    How much video editing? And, is it HD? If the answer is not much or not HD, definitely downgrade to at least the 2720qm.
     
  22. Fredrick90005

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    Thank you guys, for the fast replies.

    This is what i heard too, that u can only tell the different by benchmarks.
     
  23. Fredrick90005

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    Actually, HD video for weddings and such. But can 2820QM handle that or i really need to get the 2920xm?
     
  24. ElBlufer

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    2720qm could still probably handle it. Improvement between it and the 2820qm is less than 5%, and same with the 2920xm.

    Personally, I'd still save my money and go with the 2720qm, but if you want to be extra-safe, you can go with the 2820qm. Don't pay for the 2920xm, there's no point.
     
  25. Nascentes

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    I would go with the 2820, but that's just me. Definitely don't go with the 2920xm as others have already pointed out though.
     
  26. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    No probably about it. The 2720 is more than capable of HD video editing. Were the cost difference between it and the 2820 not as substantial as they are, it would make more sense to upgrade. Instead, take the money that you would spend on the CPU upgrade and spend it on a SSD. It would make a much bigger difference to your computing experience than the CPU.
     
  27. badaboom21

    badaboom21 Notebook Guru

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    So my laptop's been shutting off sometimes when I close the lid. I updated the usb 3.0 drivers. But still, I THINK that when I plug something in there and later on close the laptop, it sometimes turns off. Has anyone else experienced this?
     
  28. ElBlufer

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    ^^Check your power settings, it's possible to set closing the lid as a power option, and thus as an option to shut down your laptop.
     
  29. SaosinEngaged

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    I was mostly thinking of the 2920 for the longevity of it. Just as the 920/40XM of last generation still compete with the 2630/2720 of SB, while the rest of the Core I first generation are left in the dust, the 2920 will still be relevant further down the road.

    I disagree with some of you saying "there's no point." In my opinion, you're getting a processor that will rank much better against new tech.

    It really comes down to the size of your wallet and your comfort level with spending the cash for it. I've done it and will do it again when I finally replace my R2. It comes down to personal preference, but he mentioned he wanted the best.

    Yes, it's also true the video cards will always be the bottleneck in a laptop, and even the 2630 is a beast of a processor due to the overall horsepower of SB, but I'd still take the 2920XM if I was looking for a machine to last me 4 years.
     
  30. badaboom21

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    It's not the power options, sometimes it does it, sometimes it works when I open it. Anyone else?
     
  31. ElBlufer

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    It's also a $500 upgrade. More worthwhile to sell a computer and get a new one with newer tech at that point...
     
  32. saturnotaku

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    And money that will not be recovered when it comes time to sell.

    Exactly. Spend far less than $500 for a SSD boot drive that you can take with you to a new system and put the money left over towards a new machine.
     
  33. myamid

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    Personal experience has told me you should never do you PC buying math on the assumption it'll last you 4 years. Especially if you're purchasing for gaming. Within 18 to 24 months, no matter what you bought, you'll be unable to play the newer games at "acceptable" quality levels and will undoubtedly look to upgrade or buy something new starting at that point. The extra 5-10% you were so proud of at the beginning won't mean anything once you reach that 2 year mark... You're always better off staying away from the Ultra high-end stuff (the cost/benefit just isn't there), unless you can spare the case and like to pamper yourself with new toys ;) But that's a different level of rationalization altogether.

    Just my two cents
     
  34. HTWingNut

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    I agree! Great points +1! For gaming I would never plan for past two years. You're probably almost better off buying a laptop with a higher mid-grade GPU (like GTX 560m now) and buying a new laptop after 18-24 months.

    When I bought my NP8170 it was my Primary PC, so wanted high end gaming power, and thought it was a good idea for upgrading later. Well by doing the math $2200 + $600 GPU later to get me through three years or more, I can buy a higher midgrade laptop for $1300 each every 18 months, and after two years the newer midgrade laptop will most likely be nearly as powerful if not moreso than the high end laptop I bought.
     
  35. botfly10

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    I have the latest driver from Nvidia. The reason I am asking, is because it only happens on the one site... Which leads me to believe its the site, but I'm no expert.
     
  36. saturnotaku

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    Then try an older version. Latest != best in some cases.
     
  37. botfly10

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    lol... I will probably stick with the most current driver and hope a future revision fixes the issue. Thanks though.
     
  38. Sovereign6

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    Typing from my NP8130 as we speak! :D Super happy with this! However, after fiddling with the THX settings, my 3.5mm jack no longer wants to play nice :(
     
  39. ElBlufer

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    What did you change them to? Make sure that the headphone jack is set to external speakers instead of headphone.
     
  40. Lauski

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    Just trying to help here, not sure if I understand you correctly:

    I've seen one of my laptops (with power options set correctly, like you have) not turn off when I close the lid. Ok, good.

    Well, after a while, my computer just turned itself off... without warning. Is this what you mean?

    After monitoring using a temp-monitoring program, I learned closing the lid generated JUST enough additional heat to cause the system to flip to "safety mode" of powering itself off to prevent damage.

    You can't run lid-down on all laptops, especially while gaming. I know, it doesn't look as nice :)

    So check, your temps & let me know if that helps / sounds like your problem.
     
  41. seb0

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    Hi there,

    I have some troubles with my np8130.

    I tried to set up my vertex 2 SSD but the bios don't detect it in AHCI mode whereas it is detected in IDE.

    This SSD worked very well in AHCI mode with my g73jh.

    What's wrong with the np8130?
     
  42. MarkZinger

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    Just got my 8130. Got Windows 7 setup on a flash drive and successfully installed it. AWWWWWWWW YEAAAAA
     
  43. HTWingNut

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    Looks like I may be joining you guys. Deliberating between the M14X and the NP8130. M14x for battery life and gaming on battery, but it's not looking to work out as well as I thought, so might as well get the more powerful machine for the same price with a better screen and blu-ray. :D
     
  44. Ghold

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    Really considering getting this laptop, but how does the stock screen compare to the upgraded matte and glossy screens? Not really to sure what to pick for this.
     
  45. MALIBAL

    MALIBAL Company Representative

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    The stock screen on the P151HM1 (8130) is very nice. That's what I have on my P151HM1 that I use for work. Here is a thread with more info on the different screens: http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...ent-screen-options-photos-23.html#post7679736 :)
     
  46. Nascentes

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    I have the stock matte and it's great. If I did it again, I'd probably go with the 95% gamut, just because I think it would be nice although I can't comment on how much of a difference it is from stock.

    TL;DR: Whatever you get will be fine because that's what you have. You honestly can't really go wrong.
     
  47. HTWingNut

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    I'm debating on the 95% matte screen too. I may just bite, because if anything it will help with resale value later.
     
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    I've got a problem. Installed Wifi drivers, but the card doesn't seem to be functioning correctly. Doesn't appear in the networking tab of the Task Manager, so I think they're bad drivers. Anyone? It's the stock wifi card, not either of the Intel ones.
     
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    What sort of stuff can you do with the multi-touch trackpad? Never used one before.
     
  50. Anthony@MALIBAL

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    Does it show up in the bios on boot, or under device manager at all? Where did you get the drivers from? You may want to get them straight off the disk that shipped with the machine, or via windows update. Does FN+F11 do anything? It should enable the card if it's present.

    You can do: "Pinch Zoom, Rotating, Three Fingers Down and Three Finger Flick" among others. Most are customizable through control panel > mouse as well. I find the zoom and scroll gestures to be the most useful for day to day stuff.
     
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