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    *** Official Sager NP8150/Clevo P150HM Owners Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Daniel Hahn, Jan 4, 2011.

  1. trvelbug

    trvelbug Notebook Prophet

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    prema has made the 780m work on the em series. he is now at work on the hm, although he is finding things more difficult with the latter. however i trust that given enough time, he will be able to find a solution.

    GTX780M FUNDRAISER | Prema Mod
     
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    I have the exactly same problem with the same notebook. The only difference is that I have a AMD Radeon HD 6970M installed, but I have had the "screen split in half" issue, took out my card and put it back in and was faced with the "screen completely gone" too yesterday. Today I booted the notebook again and surprisingly, the display worked again. Nevertheless, I am only able to boot into Windows 7 in safe mode or with no drivers for my GPU installed.
    How was your solution in the end? Have you tried the baking recovery method? Or did you end up buying a replacement for your GPU?
     
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    Hey piranha22

    I actually went ahead and bought a 675M. It's currently on it's way here, I'm not 100% sure how I'll fit it in yet, will have a look around these forums and see if is challenging - Metabox seems to say that it is doable so I'll rely on their word.

    Had better work, I did pay quite a bit for it! Otherwise I'll try a bake and let you know if things work out :)

    In either case I got the 675M because it was cheaper than the 6990M. If it was the same price I would've stayed with the 6990M, less potential problems with BIOS or drivers (based on what I've gleamed off the forums)
     
  4. Meaker@Sager

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    You will just have to be careful with the heatpad placement.
     
  5. ModernLifeIsWar

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    So like many others my 6990m has started dying this past week, so I decided I'd give the baking trick a try. Low and behold it actually seems to have worked for the time being (knock on wood). One weird thing that I notice though is that my GPU is idling at like 65 C according to HWmonitor. On top of this it will randomly spike up to 100 C or so for no reason whatsoever and then quickly go back down. I don't feel any heat coming from my computer though, could this just be an error with the temp sensor or HWmonitor?
     
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    It could be, if it spikes and falls a heatsink would not be able to get the temps down that quick.
     
  7. summerAC

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    Craaaaap! Help needed:

    My NP8170 is giving me the black screen treatment.

    Intel® Core™ i7-2670QM
    ATI Radeon 6990M
    16GB 1333MHz
    OCZ Vertex 3 128GB - primary OS
    Seagate 500GB 7200RPM HDD - secondary storage

    Everything has been running fine, since I bought it 2 years ago its crashed once. Was playing dayz last night no worries, and the temps were fine, HW monitor showing max as 88degrees C. GPU running std clocks. Ive had no freezes or anomalies while playing any games.
    I shutdown last night, then restarted today - black screen. Its booting up fine as you can hear it running through the boot process. Even when I wait then use the fingerprint scanner to log in, i get the chime and the windows loading sound. So it seems that its running fine but with no display??? I can shut down with key shortcuts, so again its running.
    I've tried the no battery, power button for 60sec, ac plug > start technique, which worked the first time. So im thinking OK the batt is stuffed. I shutdown then come back later to start and black screen again. Repeat technique NO DICE :-(
    Plugging in an external monitor doesn't work either - is the 6990 stuffed?
     
  8. smellon

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    That's a dead GPU I believe :/
     
  9. Chango99

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    Sigh I've had to do so many reflows to my 6990m I've lost count. I guess I should be happy that it's not completely dead but it's not a pleasant experience having to take out the GPU and having to bake it and reapply thermal paste. Been happening since the beginning of this year

    Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk
     
  10. ModernLifeIsWar

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    Ya, it spikes and falls right back down to where it was before. The card seems to be working perfectly though, so I'm guessing it's just some kind of error as a result of baking it or something.
     
  11. Meaker@Sager

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    Yeah, it could be the sensor itself being a little dodgy.
     
  12. trvelbug

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    any of the resellers able to get a working bios for the 780m and the 8150? last i heard, a couple (and prema) were working on one.
     
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    No success at this time as far as I've heard.
     
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    Hello guys, I have Sager NP8150 that came with Dell AMD 6990M, which recently died.
    I understood that there is no way to have the integrated video running right?
    Any suggestions what video cards can be compatible with my laptop? I may go even something cheaper if it will work, 5870m, 6870m, 7970m.,etc?
    Thank you.
     
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    7970M is the top card that will work in the NP8150.
     
  16. stelxz

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    Will earlier version of video cards work, like 5870m? I am kinda low on budget
     
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    I don't think anybody has tried specifically but my hunch would be no.
     
  18. Meaker@Sager

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    Go with a 560m if money is tight.
     
  19. ShadowOfScales

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    A 460m, which is essentially the same card as a 560m should work (I have a Clevo one lying around I may be interested in selling if you're interested), although I don't see why the 5870m wouldn't work, as it's simply a 6870m with a different name.
     
  20. Meaker@Sager

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    Oh that's never safe to assume.
     
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    Hey guys, my 6990m died a week ago, after 2 years of use. Overheat killed it, guess I shouldnt have brought it to Florida. 2 years is nothing compared to my old 8600gt still working, but for this model, I Guess it surpassed the avage life expectancy. Already tried the baking method, didnt work.
    It still works as vga mode, but I love my p150m, so it would be cool if it lived a few years more, like my c90s still does.
    A friend offers me a 6970m from his Alienware m17x, do you guys know if such video card could work with my p150 by flashing and using modded vbios?
    I did read how to blind flash and install a 7970m on our laptops, but couldnt find posts about 560m, 460m, 6970m and the rest of classics.

    ShadowofScales, are you still selling your 460m?

    Thx for reading my post, hope someone can share some light, cause I know some have been where I am at the moment.
     
  22. Meaker@Sager

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    Typically the cards need to be of sager origin to work, even using a different vbios, there are exceptions but that's the general rule.

    The 7970M is really the best option for that machine.
     
  23. Ptsnu

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    I see, I tho those cards that are painted blue instead of green were were the ones to avoid. I tho the green ones could work, with a modded bios.
    But aparently its more complicated than that?
    I wish there was another option more affordable before pawning my leg to buy the 7970m.
     
  24. Meaker@Sager

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    You can go for the the nvidia 570m/580m for instance if you can pick up a cheap one as a similar option to your current card.
     
  25. Ptsnu

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    Thx for the advise Meaker, that option is more viable for me. I will update if I get any of those, the 580m seems to require dif heatsinks?
     
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    Different pad placement. You can check yourself by doing a comparison.
     
  27. Ptsnu

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    Thx again Meaker, I checked the pads orientation, will have that into account if I get a 580m.

    Was about to buy a 570m, but found someone selling a 765m Alienware, he says it works plug and play for our p150hms. First time I hear about 765m, can someone please share his knowledge, opinion about this gpu on our notebook?
     
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    I've yet to hear someone getting a 7 series card working in an hm or sm machine.
     
  29. Ktulu85

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    Hey all,

    Seem to be having a battery issue with my NP8150. (Purchased in June of 2011)

    Unplugged the machine and went from 100% charge to 0% in about 10 minutes just now.

    Plugged it back in, and now windows is telling me that the battery is charging but there is a warning message saying: "There is a problem with your battery so your computer my shut down suddenly. Consider replacing your battery."

    So is the battery just dead? Do I need to purchase a new one? Has anyone had this experience before? Is there any conern for other internal components?

    Thank for any input
     
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    Guys I hope someone can help me with my USB problem.
    Since yesterday no USB devices are recogninzed anymore.
    I have tried reinstalling the Renesas USB drivers etc. Nothing worked.
    Here is a picture of the device manager.
    Is it dead for good?
     

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    my battery wear level is up to 47%. is there a way to refresh the battery?
     
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    ty derek. but iirc, i read somewhere here that our batteries should not actually be drained to 0 or close to it and that the old way of calibrating has actually detrimental effect on battery life. could you confirm with sager/clevo whether the method you posted (which is the old method im refering to) can actually be used on our batteries?
     
  34. AndrewB2010

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    So the HDMI port does not work on P150HM/7970m combo?? Does the DVI work?
     
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    Draining to zero, yes that is bad, that article if I recall calls for draining to about 7% or so and telling the computer through the power settings when it reaches 7% to shut down automatically. When it does that, that's when you do the full charge cycle.
     
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  36. AndrewB2010

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    I installed a 7970m in my p150hm but every driver ive tried installing doesn't work. It continues to tell me that no drivers are installed or the drivers are the incorrect ones.. Is there something I did wrong??
     
  37. AndrewB2010

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    the card is showing up in my device manager however it has a yellow exclamation point and it says Windows has stopped this device because it has reported problems. (Code 43) but it also says the the drivers are up to date.
     
  38. Meaker@Sager

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    What card and what bios version?
     
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    Hello guys, I found a 560m, unfortunately it comes without a back X plate, I still have a 6990m with its back plate, couldn't tell what they used to attach it, but it looks like might have been some sort of glue.
    Does anyone know if I could use the X plate from the 6990m with the 560m?
    If yes, do you use pressure to detach the back plate, or some sort of fluid? And to reattach it to the 560m, is there some special glue I should use?

    I appreciate any advise on this, after 3 week of constant search, it was not easy at all to find that 560m.
     
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    Hey Guys, I just joined the forums!

    I was wondering if you guys can help me since customer service for sager isn't being all that helpful aka replying to me in one short sentence >_>" and I'm sure this question has been asked a million times!
    My GPU, AMD 6990m, failed on me the other day. Sager said I could replace it for the nVidia 560m for around $330 + shipping, but I feel if I did that I would be downgrading and I would have to buy new heatsinks etc etc. I figured if I was going to spend that much I might as well upgrade! Money is not an issue so any suggestions on what GPU's would work?! Links would be nice too!
     
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    It'll take some new BIOS/EC if I recall but you should be able to bump up to the 680m if you like. Somebody who has done it themselves should be able to provide a little more detail.Tried unearthing the guide on it but couldn't find it.
     
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    Thanks for info! I was thinking of the 7970m, but not sure. Opinions?
     
  43. Meaker@Sager

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    The 7970M with HM bios is also a valid option, performs on par with the 680m at stock. You'll either want to replace the heat pads to fit the vrms (you might get away with the existing ones) or you could buy the heatsink from a p150sm for the hd 8970m which has the same physical layout as the 7970M but the heatsink has thicker heatpipes that will cool better.
     
  44. trvelbug

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    is the 780m bios mod for hm of prema officially dead in the water?
     
  45. Meaker@Sager

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    I'm not sure, you would have to ask prema, he had some success but maybe he has not had the time.
     
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    Hey guys,

    I have a P150hm, and have likewise had some unfortunate luck in the past week with my HD 6990m. It would seem that it is on its way out the door. I was able to reflow it and it works right now, but as far as I can tell its only a matter of time before it goes again. Does anyone have any good lines on a 7970m that will work in my machine? Also, from reading this forum, it would appear that the 8970m is pretty much on par with the 7970m performance wise, so probably no need for waiting to see if someone gets the 8970m working in the P150hm? Final question, I have a 2760qm CPU, and if I were to put a 7970m would the CPU now be the bottleneck of my system?

    Thanks so much!
     
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    No the 8970M never had a modified bios so it's a bad plan.

    Your CPU would pair nicely with an 8970M, it would hardly hold back a 780M.
     
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    isn't there any way on these things to make the fans as quiet as possible while the laptop is idling? they're not loud per se but yeah...
     
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    Ok awesome! I'm guessing when you said my CPU would pair nicely with a 8790m, did you possible mean a 7970m? Any advice on where to look for a solid new 7970m? Haven't had awesome experiences with ebay in the past, so any other suggestions?

    Thanks!!
     
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    If I did then it was my phone's auto correct trying to drop me in it again.

    The members market is a good option.
     
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