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    *** Official Sager NP8150/Clevo P150HM Owners Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Daniel Hahn, Jan 4, 2011.

  1. David.P

    David.P Notebook Consultant

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    Ah thanks now I got it :D
     
  2. mufferer18

    mufferer18 Notebook Consultant

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    How about any updates on maxwell working cards in HM? Prema sometin doin? Or not?
     
  3. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    nope. his hardware is still on the fritz and hes been feeling a bit under the weather lately. so its not looking good atm.

    Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10
     
  4. Meaker@Sager

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    If you want to provide him with hardware of course that's an option ;)
     
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    Hey guys, is there anyone still alive in here? :)

    I recently installed Windows 10 as an upgrade over the existing Windows 7 Installation. At first I was like, wow everythings fine! But then I discovered that Brightness Control is not working anymore. Neither with Hotkeys nor per Software. This seems to be a common Problem with upgrade installations. There is no gerenal Workaround. Different graphics driver versions (AMD in my case) don´t solve the Problem either. A new installation of Windows 10 is no option for me.

    Does anyone experience the same problem and maybe solved it already?


    Thanks in advance for any reply
     
  6. bennyg

    bennyg Notebook Virtuoso

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    Uninstall / reinstall the hotkey application?

    Win10 under my roof, 0/3 on non-format installs...

    Sent from my Redmi Note 3 using Tapatalk
     
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    there was a similar issue with AMD gpus in the HM losing brightness control in win8, and there was a solution via registry fix for that... lemme check and see if i can find that again for ya, its been a while :)

    edit: check out these two links:

    https://community.amd.com/thread/184667

    http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...ndows-81/4e56ce40-6c55-4541-bce4-dd4206f88cd3
     
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  8. Mowlas

    Mowlas Newbie

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    Hey people! My second radeon 6990m card broke last night. I wonder if any member here got an spare graphic card thats fits in a P150HM. I doesnt matter if it's used or new, aslong as it works. Im glad for all help that i can get. My budget i max ~250€
     
  9. jaybee83

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    u should go and check out the nbr marketplace, thats where ull most likely find users with gpus fitting ur machine :)

    alternative would be this: http://www.ceg-hardcorecustom.com/p...are-dell-amd-ati-radeon-hd-7970m-wimbledon-xt

    make sure to tell them which machine its for so they can preflash the correct vbios for you. in this case ull need to choose v1.2 of the 7970m. good thing about this offer: ull be covered by warranty for 12 months :)

    Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10
     
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  10. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    If it is compatible with your machine, I have an almost new (maybe 20 hours of use) Clevo GTX 970M that I'll let you have for a song compared to what you would pay buying one online. I would not recommend putting an old GPU like what you had in there. Finding a good one that old will be hit or miss, not to mention it is no longer powerful by today's standards.
     
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  11. Mowlas

    Mowlas Newbie

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    The Clevo GTX 970M wont work. It's an stock issue :/ The most extreme card that might work is an 7970m or 680M. Thanks for your reply Mr. Fox
     
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  12. Mowlas

    Mowlas Newbie

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    I tried to "bake" my 6990m, 200 °C for 10 min in oven. Now it works again. :)
     
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    Probably still living on borrowed time, I have never seen a reflow last long. Cool that it is working now, but keep an eye out for a new card or computer.
     
  14. Mowlas

    Mowlas Newbie

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    Yeah that's true! Im still looking for a new gpu.
     
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    Nogs Newbie

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    Does the Sager NP8150/Clevo p150hm support SLI?

    Like if I get two 680m's and get the right BIOs, etc., can I SLI them? Or is there not even slots in the laptop for 2 GPUs? I can't seem to find a definitive answer on SLI capabilities.
     
  16. deadsmiley

    deadsmiley Notebook Deity

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    The 15" models don't have 2 slots.

    Sent from my overpriced Galaxy S6 Edge +
     
  17. Nogs

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    Dang.

    Thanks for the fast reply.

    I imagine 9xx on HM series is probably pretty low on priority list for Prema (if it's even possible)
     
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    Hey guys,

    i´ve been off for the last two weeks, but i am pleased that brightness controls are now operational again! bennyg and jaybee83 thank you for your replies!
    Now if anyone faces the same problem (brightness controls broken after upgrade to Windows 10 on p150hm with 6970m or similar amd gpu), here is the 5min solution, that fixed it for me:

    open regedit
    go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Class\{4d36e968-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0000
    change KMD_EnableBrightnessInterface2 from 1 to 0
    reboot

    that´s it. Thank you so much jaybee83 for the links to the soulution! although i did my own research before asking here, i was not able to find the right fix.

    The community here ist so helpful! :)


    Tried it, but it did not help.

    https://community.amd.com/thread/184667 <-- that´s it, see above
     
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  19. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    same goes for the 17 inch HM machines :) only the 18 incher P180HM is capable of SLI

    gotta help keep those awesome HM machines alive here, P150HM was my first clevo and i loved it to death / modded the crap out of it :D
     
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    Rider06 Newbie

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    Hello people!

    I have quite a dumb question (if i am to take into consideration the size of this thread).

    My beloved 6990M died, after 6 years of usage - believe it or not.

    I want to replace it, even tho' i'm probably going to get a new laptop/desktop in the near future.

    Now, from what I've seen so far, the list of replacement cards which work (or should work with some VBIOS mod) is:

    - Nvidia: 460m, 485m, 560m and 580m, 680m
    - Radeon: 6990m, 6970m, 7970m

    I would rather install a FIREPRO model, but i am unsure of whether there would be any compatibility issues, not to mention that i do not know which models to look for.

    I would like to ask anyone up here to either throw me a link or some advice regarding which route i should aim for, because I can't, in all honesty, go through 500+ pages here. This request comes with a big PLEASE followed by a thousand thank yous'.

    Cheers, C.
     
  21. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    If you can get the 680M to work that is the the gold standard performance wise but IIRC then the board PCB revision matters.
     
  22. Rider06

    Rider06 Newbie

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    Oh wow, thank you for the reply!

    Could you go a bit more in depth with what i should be looking for when searching for the 680m? I'm not really sure what the abbreviates mean and i'm not sure the googled' definitions are precise.

    would this one be ok?
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OEM-gtx-6...889495?hash=item3d27738e17:g:NpMAAOSwZtJW8wPO

    Also, do you think it's worth that i invest 250 GBP (330USD) to get this laptop fixed? Or should i just put another hundred and buy a new consumer grade laptop?

    Moreover, what is your input on Quadro cards and Firepro for this model?

    Thanks a lot.

    Cheers,
    Cristian
     
  23. bennyg

    bennyg Notebook Virtuoso

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    So my brother's P150HM (formerly mine) finally looks like the 580M's on the way out. I haven't had hands on it yet but he's fixed a no boot scenario by swapping RAM around but it remains with constant visual artifacting even during POST, and crashing with BSOD loading Win7 saying a nvidia driver component is responsible. It looks like it operates normally in safe mode (he was able to pull data to storage) but still with the constant artifacts


    There's a tiny chance it's just a cable or the gpu has been dislodged but I think that's highly unlikely since it's been bsodding after very long (8+hr) runtime with a beep code for many months, which did not change when I cleaned it out a couple months ago, although fresh paste and de-furring the radiators did fix the 90C temps

    Can I find a cheap replacement is the question, he's happy with the power and doesn't have any budget for a new one ... he could have the spare P370EM's 7970M but that's already been repaired (sloppily) and I don't want to go through all that and just have it fail on him again.
     
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  24. Meaker@Sager

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    Your best bet for ease of install is to try and find a like for like.
     
  25. Support.2@XOTIC PC

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    If you can replace with the same part that's always best, though I don't think many will working 580Ms are out there. Looks like a VRAM problem from the shots.
     
  26. bennyg

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    Well I basically did that - found a guy parting his P370EM so grabbed the pair of 670Ms

    Should just drop straight in right? Given they're identical to the 580M except for 2 missing ram chips and of course the name-number-inflation......
     
  27. jaybee83

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    in theory yes, as long as the vbios plays along with your machine :)
     
  28. jcrouch001

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    Hi, relatively inexperienced user here with a question about drivers.

    I have a P150HM with the 580m in it. I was having issues with Civ 6 crashing whenever I tried to load the game and i suspected that it might be my video card drivers. If I tried to download any of the drivers from the nvidia site directly ( this for instance), I would get bsod during the install and have to go into safe mode and roll back the drivers.

    I found that there are drivers on the clevo website and downloaded those (64-bit)

    Now, i accidentally downloaded and installed the 560m drivers. And everything appears to be working fine. Is there a problem with also?

    When I realized I had the wrong model, I tried to download the 580m drivers instead, but the download file appears to be corrupt.

    Are these really the most up to date drivers to be using with the 580m? Unless I am mistaken, it sees like they are from 2011.

    Any advice?
     
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    hm this is strange, that shouldnt happen. there are no gpu specific drivers, basically u just need the correct drivers for your OS and gpu series (500M), but not the specific gpu per se.
    im hoping this is not an early sign of your gpu failing on you. have you serviced your laptop lately? applied fresh thermal paste, clean out the dust from the fan blades and heatsink fins?

    Sent from my HUAWEI NXT-AL10 using Tapatalk
     
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    I have cleaned things out recently yes. I had this same problem ~1 year ago when I tried to update drivers with nvidia geforce experience or whatever it was called. If its a sign of the card failing, then I guess somehow it has lasted all this year.

    I am just confused by what I am even supposed to be using. Are the drivers from the sager/clevo site up to date? They certainly don't look like it to me. Am I doing something incorrectly?
     
  31. jaybee83

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    ok thats a good sign then. for proper driver install, i recommend running the latest DDU (display driver uninstaller) first, removing every last bit of old driver code on your machine before doing a fresh driver install. for the driver itself, check the nvidia website for the latest version.

    Sent from my HUAWEI NXT-AL10 using Tapatalk
     
  32. jcrouch001

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    Ok. If I try that and I get stuck in the same spot, how would I go about fixing it? If I have removed the old driver code from my machine, I wouldn't be able to roll back my drivers anymore would I?
    Thanks so much for your help, I really appreciate it!
     
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    if that happens (which, in my opinion, is unlikely) u can use DDU again, remove the faulty driver and then try to install a different version :)
     
  34. jcrouch001

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    I went through with the following steps.
    • Reboot to safe mode
    • Run DDU's clean and restart option with Nvidia selected
    • Download the latest GTX 580M drivers from Nvidia and install
    This was closer to successful than before. In the past, I have got bsod in the middle of the new driver install. This time, the drivers installed completely and then the final step is to restart the computer. On the restart I get bsod right after the windows logo. I tried the above steps with the 2nd most recent drivers from Nvidia as well and had the same results.

    I am perplexed o_O
     
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    hmmm, this is indeed unusual. how old is your current windows install? check and see if you have any corruption going on by opening an elevated command prompt (as administrator) and typing the following:

    sfc /scannow

    also, download a tool like whocrashed and check the bsod codes, thatll give us a hint as to what exactly made the system crash.

    Sent from my HUAWEI NXT-AL10 using Tapatalk
     
  36. Support.2@XOTIC PC

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    Seconding this, also note that when running that system file check it doesn't seem to check dependencies, so if it comes back with errors that say something couldn't be fixed, run it again to be sure.
     
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    bennyg Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yep the 670M dropped right in. Only hitch was drivers needed to be manually installed as the device ID (VEN_10DE & DEV_1213 & SUBSYS_51021558 iirc) for the clevo 670M was missing from the INF files even from nvcv.inf

    Once that was added and installed it works fine.
     
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    Hi all !

    I am the owner of a clevo P150HM for many years. Last summer, my 6 year old GPU (radeon HD 6970M) dies.
    The clevo starts and windows loads in safe mode. With radeon drivers, there's green artifacts all over the screen.

    After reading this post, i bought a second hand 3gb MSI GTX 670M on ebay (MS-1W051 ver 1.1).
    Before installing the new GPU, I have flashed the bios of the p150hm to the latest one (EC/KBC V 1.00.13 & BIOS V 1.01.14).

    Then I turn the power on, and... nothing ! With or without AC adapter, the clevo refuse to power on with the 670M. The led on the AC adapter just flash...

    I have tried after to reboot with the died radeon without any problem. I have also tried to install a clevo Radeon HD 5870M, the P150HM starts and then reboot every 30 seconds after 4 bips.

    Does my problem with GTX670M looks familiar to you ? Is the card dead ? Does the vbios needs to be flashed ?

    Many thanks.
     
  39. Meaker@Sager

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    It has been a few years but was the 670M ever confirmed to work in this model?
     
  40. bennyg

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    Clevo 670M yes, see about 3 posts above ;p



    I tried the same Clevo 670M in a GT780 shell whose MSI 570M had blown a FET and though I couldn't get any display, I could tell the laptop was POSTing normally (via a usb key activity LED). So vice versa I would assume a MSI card in Clevo would at least power on since that's more an electrical issue than one of firmware. Did the seller sell it tested or as-is?
     
  41. Sam Tyler

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    The (non professionnal) seller sell it fully working.
     
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    Clevo cards and MSI cards were not always swappable though flashing the relevant Vbios over can help. The HM series is very picky.
     
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    I seem to have a new issue going on. Twice today my computer has shut off and then beeped 13 times. After this, I can restart the computer.

    This happened to me a couple weeks ago as well and I thought it was an isolated incident. I checked the beep codes for my bios (American Megatrends Inc 4.6.4) and it doesn't have anything for this large a number of beeps. Anyone have any ideas?

    Here is some information from WhoCrashed:

    Windows version: Windows 7 Service Pack 1, 6.1, build: 7601
    Windows dir: C:\Windows
    Hardware: P150HMx, CLEVO
    CPU: GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2670QM CPU @ 2.20GHz Intel586, level: 6
    8 logical processors, active mask: 255
    RAM: 8566448128 bytes total



    Crash Dump Analysis
    Crash dumps are enabled on your computer. This system is not configured for complete or automatic crash dumps. For best results, configure your system to write out complete or automatic crash dumps. Select Tools->Crash Dump Configuration from the main menu to configure your system to write out complete memory dumps.

    Crash dump directories:
    C:\Windows
    C:\Windows\Minidump

    On Sat 6/16/2018 11:39:04 AM your computer crashed or a problem was reported
    crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\061618-32136-01.dmp
    This was probably caused by the following module: sgfxk64.sys (0xFFFFF8800FF3DAA0)
    Bugcheck code: 0x116 (0xFFFFFA800E4C7010, 0xFFFFF8800FF3DAA0, 0xFFFFFFFFC000009A, 0x4)
    Error: VIDEO_TDR_ERROR
    file path: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\sgfxk64.sys
    product: SMSC Graphics Adapter WDDM Software
    company: SMSC
    description: SMSC Graphics Adapter WDDM Kernel Mode Driver
    Bug check description: This indicates that an attempt to reset the display driver and recover from a timeout failed.
    A third party driver was identified as the probable root cause of this system error. It is suggested you look for an update for the following driver: sgfxk64.sys (SMSC Graphics Adapter WDDM Kernel Mode Driver, SMSC).
    Google query: sgfxk64.sys SMSC VIDEO_TDR_ERROR



    On Sun 6/3/2018 5:53:14 PM your computer crashed or a problem was reported
    crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\060318-10436-01.dmp
    This was probably caused by the following module: sgfxk64.sys (0xFFFFF8800FF0AAA0)
    Bugcheck code: 0x116 (0xFFFFFA800D0BB010, 0xFFFFF8800FF0AAA0, 0xFFFFFFFFC000009A, 0x4)
    Error: VIDEO_TDR_ERROR
    file path: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\sgfxk64.sys
    product: SMSC Graphics Adapter WDDM Software
    company: SMSC
    description: SMSC Graphics Adapter WDDM Kernel Mode Driver
    Bug check description: This indicates that an attempt to reset the display driver and recover from a timeout failed.
    A third party driver was identified as the probable root cause of this system error. It is suggested you look for an update for the following driver: sgfxk64.sys (SMSC Graphics Adapter WDDM Kernel Mode Driver, SMSC).
    Google query: sgfxk64.sys SMSC VIDEO_TDR_ERROR




    Conclusion
    2 crash dumps have been found and analyzed. A third party driver has been identified to be causing system crashes on your computer. It is strongly suggested that you check for updates for these drivers on their company websites. Click on the links below to search with Google for updates for these drivers:

    sgfxk64.sys (SMSC Graphics Adapter WDDM Kernel Mode Driver, SMSC)

    If no updates for these drivers are available, try searching with Google on the names of these drivers in combination with the errors that have been reported for these drivers. Include the brand and model name of your computer as well in the query. This often yields interesting results from discussions on the web by users who have been experiencing similar problems.


    Read the topic general suggestions for troubleshooting system crashes for more information.

    Note that it's not always possible to state with certainty whether a reported driver is responsible for crashing your system or that the root cause is in another module. Nonetheless it's suggested you look for updates for the products that these drivers belong to and regularly visit Windows update or enable automatic updates for Windows. In case a piece of malfunctioning hardware is causing trouble, a search with Google on the bug check errors together with the model name and brand of your computer may help you investigate this further.
     
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    looks like a GPU driver crash. so either try DDU to remove current gpu driver properly and install a new one fresh, or, if problems still persist, that could point to a failing GPU...
     
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    Is anything else behaving oddly like the fans?
     
  46. Scerate

    Scerate Notebook Evangelist

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    First and foremost, sry for creating a new post for that wasn't sure if i even do a new thread for that, but as i want to maybe help some potential guys out like i just did for a good friend of mine, which still owns my first Clevo (P150HM). I just put together a working fix for using the mentioned Quadro FX2800M vBios Package.

    The issue was that the card worked relatively flawless besides the fact that the notebook display didn't work, so i spent hours to find some vBios and get it flashed via nvflash, and got it working with a old Nvflash i had for my 780M (P150SM). I tested the card myself after using that particular vBios and onboard screen works now + some games.

    Just download the .zip and use the bat or use the commands manually.

    FX2800M Package

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