*** Official Sager NP8150/Clevo P150HM Owners Lounge ***

right, thank you for confirming
i just ordered a 2630qm and a 485m on 8150

 

Right but spec says 4GB. I'll be curious to see if it actually runs at 1600MHz with 8GB. Of course with the 2630QM it won't, I'm wondering if any other users have a faster CPU with 8GB of DDR3 1600.

 

I ordered the Kingston 1600 Mhz 2x2GB memory as well. I noticed that this is the only option on most websites' configurators, and the 2x4GB modules don't seem to be in stock at a lot of places anymore for online retailers. I'm wondering if its b/c there is just a high demand/low stock or its b/c the modules aren't being supported so Kingston stopped making them? I found that you can currently pick them up on Buy.com for 99.99 shipped, but the picture on that website is not of laptop memory modules.

 

You would imagine both of those reasons would be contributing factors.

 

The ETA for the 2X4GB Kingston DDR3-1600 on Newegg is Feb. 6, so I have auto-notify set up. I'll buy them if I get in on it on time and try plugging them in when I get my P150HM and see what happens. That is, unless someone else can definitively say that 4GB total is the max at DDR3-1600, or someone else finds out the hard way before I do.

 

To be honest I bet there will be little benefit to 1600MHz RAM. But it'll be good to find out. If it's just a matter of only being able to populate two slots instead of all four, well, then 8GB should work.

 

I would tend to agree with HT, I don't think that there is going to be a big difference either. I thought increases in RAM speed were pretty much negligible. I thought that RAM running at a slightly higher speed with a slightly higher latency would run at more or less the same speed as RAM that was slightly slower with lower latency. Is this true?

BTW: HT, your 8170 looks freakin awesome. I bet it's going to be a TON of fun when it gets there!

 

Yeah. Problem is I think my sister is coming over next weekend with her daughter (my niece). While my sister runs off and plays Army in the reserves, I gotta babysit my niece along with my two little rugrats, so maybe little to no time with my new baby. Plus I don't want any of them touching it! HANDS OFF!

 

I have the same rule with my two kids. There are certain things that are for the family, and there are certain things that are for daddy only...My 8150 will fall into the latter category . I'll give them my current laptop to toy around on.

 

Anyone know what the average temps are for the new i7's? One or two of my cores seem to run much higher in temp then my #3 and #4 cores which is odd. I thought it was a bad pasting job but I just re-did it and it was near perfect and the results are the same. Core 0 and 1 idle around 45C and hover around 49C when surfing the net. When playing a game it typically averages 57C on the two first cores while the others are around 8C lower.

 

My boys are 2 & 3 and my niece is 9. She likes to play on the computer and show my 3 year old stuff on the nick site etc. Except she always goes for my laptop despite having an old Shuttle PC I have set up for visitor use. I think I may just have to hide my new Sager while she's here and use my NP8662 until she's gone. Maybe I'll keep my NP8662 just for those kinds of reasons. Swap out the computer when company comes.

 

That can happen. Certain cores can be taxed more than others. And not all cores are created equal. Slight variations could cause more resistance and result in higher temps. In my current core 2 quad I have one core that runs about 8C lower than the other three.

 

Sounds like you have a smart niece She knows you have the good stuff =] hehe

 

Yeah, keeping the old one to swap out when kids are around sounds like a great idea.

 

Can this laptop have one HDD + one SSD + one Bluray drive?

 

Nope. Have to upgrade to the 17" if you want it all internal. Otherwise ditch the internal optical for an HDD caddy and get a USB blu-ray.

 

I'm considering changing my order to do exactly this. If I get a Seagate Momentus XT 500 GB in the caddy can it be run off of the AHCI controller with my SSD? I want to run my SSD in AHCI mode, but I heard somewhere that traditional HDD don't work well with that controller.

Memory Issue Update: I was reading on the Alienware M17X R3 first impression thread that the Kingston HyperX DDR3-1600 modules are pretty easily being run at DDR3-1600 frequency with DDR3-1333 (7) latency in the Alienware BIOS. I hope this is the case with the Clevo BIOS as well.

 

All modern hard drives run fine with AHCI. Plus I wouldn't bother with a Momentus XT as your secondary drive unless you plan on dual booting off it. The momentus xt offers little benefit as a data drive, and your SSD will be plenty fast and have room for your most commonly used app. Save a few bucks and buy a larger HDD.

 

Second htwingnut's idea.

If you aren't going to use the XT as rigorously and as a boot drive,

you aren't going to need or see the benefits of the hybrid drive.

 

I have no idea where to ask this as its not specifically related to clevo or my p150hm but rather the cpu thats inside it. I remember reading a while back that these cpu's can rival encoding speeds done by nvidia gpu's in say...Badaboom. Is this true? if so how?

 

so close to ordering my 8150-s1.. i think i've decided to wait for the model with the 6970 in it though. i'm having a hard time accepting that it's $500 for the upgrade to the 485 when it should least half that much (or less) to upgrade to the 6970 and still get similar performance..

i'll save that extra 2-300 for an upgrade to an ivy bridge proc in 2012

 

But dude... well all be dead then?..

 

Thats dec. 2012, we can enjoy ivy bridge for one whole year. Haswell, on the other hand, is a toss-up.

 

Haswell that ends well.

 

Yes using intels quicksync feature, your cpu can render a video as fast as your gpu but with much better quality. Unfortunately this feature will only be available if the igp was enabled too.

 

Ah so in other words us P150HM users wont be able to use it. Man that sucks

 

there was a program for desktops that enabled this check out anandtech for some info

 

this seems to be the most logical solution. I have had 2 drives on my 15" Toshiba along with a dvd player so was abit disapointed to see the Clevo only has this limit. With hd space coming bigger, portable USB sticks/drives, Smartphones & the Internet, DVD drives will become yesterdays technology at some point, might as well be now. Of course you will still have an external for when required for now. it reminds me of the end of the 90's when we all started using external floppy drives as they became outdated.

 

Can any owners report on the volume levels of the fans? Or the quality of the 2.1 speakers? How about the functionality of the trackpad?

 

If this is what your talking about.

Lucid Enables Quick Sync with Discrete Graphics on Sandy Bridge - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

They mention that it still obviously won't work on the p67. No idea why but if any of you know the reason behind it then would it be or would it not be possible to use this on our lappies?

 

Yeah. I still have a USB 3.5" floppy drive and use it periodically. Old tech never dies, lol.

Although because of Blu-Ray I don't see optical drives dying any time soon. Streaming DVD qualilty video is one thing, but storing and/or streaming blu-ray HD quality video is expensive.

 

Haha! Received my tracking number this morning! I should have it sooner then I thought!



Eric

 

What is labor Warranty exactly?

 

They will use their own work force to service the computer at no charge (ex. Labor charge for installing a HDD, opening and dissembling the machine)

However does not mean they will spend their own money on parts that are being replaced, thats where the "parts" part come in

 

Who's ready for a recall? Intel finds flaw in 6-series chipsets, halts shipments - The Tech Report

 

Yeah this is pretty depressing.. I wonder if it affects all Processor types including the mobiles? I am debating on returning my laptop to RJ until they get it squared away if that is the case.

For those wanting some info on the fans my CPU fan is pretty quiet 99.9% of the time it is the GPU fan that is louder. It isn't anything extreme by any means when playing a game, but you definitely hear it compared to my previous G53 laptop. My fan seems to kick in pretty regularly as well under light load (around 40C) which drives me nuts hearing it spin up and down all the time.

Speakers are decent for a laptop setup, definitely loud enough for me and if you use the SRS stuff or the THX software provided they are above average IMO.

I have a Momentus XT Hybrid drive in my ODD bay and it runs fine for those wondering.

 

From Intel;

"This is an issues with the 6 series chipset (Cougar Point) impacting SATA ports 2-5. If you are using ports 0 and 1 there are no issues. The issue was root caused and a new stepping (B2) is coming end of March.

If you have purchased 6 series platforms, call your supplier to return them (if you are intending to use SATA ports 2-5) All the ODM’s and OEM’s are notified and are being notified and they can give you more detail (or you can use me if you have more questions)

I will keep you posted with any new information I get on this chipset."

Keep in mind that SATA port's numbering system starts with 0, so they are saying it does not affect ports 0 & 1 which is all most laptops use. Even the Sager NP8170 uses ports 0 & 1 for the hard drive bays, and only uses ports 2-5 for Optical Drive etc.

 

In other words according to the thread in the main sager/clevo forum. If you ordered an 8150 the only thing effected is the esata port in the back so if it has already shipped, you can just not use that port and you will be fine.

 

whats the eSata port for anyway, since it a esata and usb combo
does it mean we cant use the "usb part" of it too ? thus leaving the whole port useless ?

 

Nope apparently the usb port will still function without any hitch according to the Mythlogic rep. Its just the esata port will eventually stop working.

 

Please let's all be patient while this is quickly sorted out. We are on top of this. Thanks...
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Thanks for the heads up. I'm just glad this was caught before mine shipped out!

 

Mine only went to production last week, so I'm hoping that it has not got the bugged chipset. Still haven't received it. I'm wondering if Sager will hold off building mine until this is worked out?

 

If its like some said and only affects the esata port on the 150hm than I dont care I dont use it anyways.... hopefully my hdd and optical only use port 0and1

 

They do. That was the very first thing that I asked, as I can live without the usage of the eSATA port. I really don't want to wait another 2-3 months for my unit to be delivered.

 

I can't believe this has happened. I hope it gets resolved quickly.

I ordered a laptop in OCTOBER 2010... After poor delivery of i7 720QM and Geforce 470M cards left me twiddling my thumbs until mid January when my order was upgraded to a sandy bridge model i finally had some hope that i would have a system before i leave the country mid Feb) which obviously is not going to happen now.

This has really screwed over consumers and resellers alike :/

 

Bad news folks, apparenty the ODD is on port 2 and not port 1 like we were previously told, this game directly from Sager/Clevo. So I guess everyone is effected.

 

As some of you may have heard, Intel has recently announced a halt to shipments of 6 Series chipsets due to a quality concern. Sager has been working with Intel and Clevo to determine details and the timeline for a resolution of this problem. While we continue to do everything in our power to understand this issue, we have made a decision to halt shipments of 8130, 8150 and 8170 systems until we have a full grasp of the issue and a timeline for resolution. We realize this may be an inconvenience to some of our customers, but we feel it is important that we have full confidence in the product before shipping. We thank you in advance for your patience.

 

I can't justify myself paying for i7 1st gens now..

as I know that I can get the Sandy Bridge at the exact same price.....

This is like a waiting game with no exit maneuvers..

 

Yeah, this really sucks.