*** Official Sager NP8150/Clevo P150HM Owners Lounge ***

is the 2 press keyboard limitation present in all laptop keyboards or only in selected model?

 

Say I did go the 95% matte gamut screen which is discounted, is it really worth upgrading the 6970m to the 485m graphics card for an extra $100, even with ram reducing from 8gb to 4gb. I read a fair bit of the 6970m vs 485m thread, but just interested in some general comments. Both will run Heroes of Newerth and WoW with no problems, but I will probably eventually try a few games like crysis 2, etc.

Just for future reference, what are the prices on SSD's like. Seems that this part can really fine tune the performance of the machine, but from what I've seen they are quite expensive. The 64gb SSD is just over $100, but would this be able to hold windows 7 and a few games, or does the OS take up a lot of room?

Thanks for all the replies thus far, very helpful.

 

Oh crap... Seriously?! How am I going to play properly like that?! If that's the case, well my (approaching) 3 year old LG E300 fairs better!

A gaming laptop that has a keyboard that only accepts input from 2 keys?! What have I done?!

If this issue affects the NP8150-S1 I ordered, I'm gonna hit myself for not getting an ALW...

 

I never noticed this issue. Then again I realized if i use three keys, it's usually two standard keys and maybe a modifier key like Shift, Alt, Ctrl, so not sure if that makes a difference. But if it is truly limited to two keys, for a machine that's intended to game, that is a complete disgrace.

 

I think we need to look into this keyboard issue a bit more. Current owners care to do some testing and report back?

 

About the keyboard issue, I'm not buying it since i've already played several games without issue, to play the devils advocate I downloaded KeyboardTest

As you can see in my screenshot it's clearly registering more than 2 keys at once, in fact I can hold down as many as I can with one hand while still manipulating other keys with my free hand.


Download the app to reproduce the results if need be.

Yes i'm on an NP8130 not 8150, No there is no technical difference between the two that would cause this they're both P150Hx motherboards.

 

good to know atmosk.
i dont really play fps'es or action games so this really had no bearing on me. but its good to know that there were no issues when an actual test was done.
maybe the guys reporting issues should try your nifty kb test too.

 

I've been playing a few FPS's and completed Portal 2 entirely on the laptop's keyboard and trackpad, I don't think anyone has anything to worry about here and there always is that test for those who are still concerned.

Game on friends.

 

i was also thinking the 'kb issue' wouldve cropped up much sooner (many people here into action and fps) if it werent a few isolated(placebo?) cases.
people here have been doin reviews since january before the recall and there has been no mention of this...

 

i am completely amazed they would do something like this... absolutely ludicrous.

 

well considering how i started this thing about the4 keyboard, i know for a fact it exists.. if anyone could explain possible reasons why that would rock! I have a malibal lotus p150hm... playing COD is next to impossible with this issue

 

What bios rev are you on? What EC rev are you on? Are you using the trackpad?
And exactly what keys are you actually hitting when this happens?

 

How hard is it to self upgrade the WIFI adapter? I purchased a 6300 on ebay but cant see the adapter to swap out the 5300 when I open my 8150 up. Hoping it's not under the keyboard? Couldnt find anything in the manual either.

Much appreciated.

And for whomever was asking about the 12.7 v 12.5 ODD, the ebay 12.7 fit fine, just trying to work out how to swap the front bezel to have the sloped plastic and not an awkward indent.

 

It's unfortunately under the keyboard,
The service manual HERE shows where it is.

 

That is a HUGE relief... Will test mine... WHEN IT COMES THAT IS!

Oh well back to waiting... And fingers crossed...

 

@Atmosk
Thanks mate, you're a legend! Getting the keyboard off was actually a lot easier than I thought, couldnt push the top panel off through the back but managed to pick it out from the front top corner.

Rebooting now, fingers crossed!

 

I could say the 6970m is a very good card especially for its price and I quite suggest you get one if you're tight on a budget. Both can handle games very well, albeit the 5% difference from the supposedly faster 485m.

Take the $100AUD off the 485m and you can buy yourself an SSD (64GB at least). Windows takes up about 10-15GB already after installed. You can put 1 or 2 games most likely not including your temporary files and such.

However, I went for the optical drive route; removed my DVD drive for a secondary 750GB drive.

 

What is the EC rev? I am using the trackpad, and my bios rev is 2.10.1208

 

I just did the test, on my lotus p150hm. If i hold "W" "A" "SHIFT" TRY TO PRESS AND HOLD THE G KEY. It doesn't appear...

 

I tried out this test on my keyboard as well. Had some fairly interesting results. When holding down W then A then Shift, G would not register, but every other key around it would, just not G. If I held down W, A, and Z, every key except Q, X,C, G, and N would work. I didn't test extensively with other keys, these are the first two tests I did. Just randomly holding down different combinations of keys provides similar results, some keys working while others don't when pressed together, there doesn't seem to be any apparent pattern to it.

 

As someone who is waiting for a p150hm order to arrive, are there any practical limitations that this defect imposes and is this a defect uniform on all the p150hm laptops?

 

A BIG Sager special for the NP8150 S-1! Till June 15th get the 95% Gamut screen upgrade Matte or Glossy for just $45.00!!
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How much would it run to have a 95% glossy sent to me with no upgrade?

 

Guys I just received my Sager NP8150 and have some questions:
1. what is the latest official BIOS?
2. I installed a Intel 510 SSD and doing a fresh OS install (Win 7 x64). What drvivers/software do I need to install and where to get them from.

Thanks!

 

Thanks! I hope they still have it in stock after June 15th... Seems like they not going to offer it anymore. Well, i might be mistaken

 

How about we get some pictures up from users of their machines on the desk. Always good to see how other users have their machines and desks setup.

 

Probably should start another thread for that.

 

Did your system come with a CD ? All the drivers are in that CD including x64 versions.

If not then there's a link in the Sager website:

http://www2.sagernotebook.com/pages/notebooks/download.cfm?ProductType=8150

 

This is the Clevo/Sager 8150 owners thread, seems like the perfect place to put up pictures related to owners laptops.

 

I'll put mine up !

 

Yes, but posting pictures will clutter the thread very quickly. Might as well make a sager/clevo desk picture thread.
EDIT: I guess we can move after that happens though.

 

How can I turn my fans to 100% ??? The FN+F1 combination doesn't seem to work... I am doing something wrong?

what software can I use to meassure the temps?
thanks!

 

Here: CPUID - System & hardware benchmark, monitoring, reporting

You can monitor max temps, min temps and current temps with it.

Edit: Btw, it's FN + 1, NOT FN + F1

 

yup, found it.
thanks!

Any ideas regarding the FN+F1 fan option?

 

Well, I said it in my previous post, it's FN + 1, NOT FN + F1. Note the difference. That should allow you to run your fans at full speed.

 

damn, missed that
Thanks a lot!!!
I hope those fans will never run that loud .

 

No prob. All these reports of unbearable noise levels are quite intimidating. Thankfully my ear phones are noise cancelling.

On the bright side, I would soon have another reason for pretending not to hear my parents when they call me: my fan's too loud! lol

 

its that loud! seriously now.... i always put my rig into Fn+1 mode when gaming and it doesnt bother me at all! in fact, sometimes i don even know if im in 100% or automatic fan control mode cuz i wouldnt hear the fans anyways (especially when blowing up bigas*-alien mof*s in crysis or serious sam HD )

dont u guys let urself be intimidated by all the negative posts concerning the (not at all annoying) noise levels!

cheers

 

Hi,

It seems like the 560m will be coming to the NP8150 this summer as a replacement for the 460m. Does anyone know if it will be optimus-enabled?

 

The 460M is EOL. Sager and Clevo are only shipping the 560M in these machines now. At this time it is NOT optimus-enabled. Sorry.
_

 

Alright, thanks for the info!

 

@ Thisisalamp, great photo! Also, great review.

 

true. even on a quiet room, max fans dont get annoyingly loud. in fact one of my requests to sager, is for a mx fan led indicator, cause when i am in a cafe i sometimes cant tell whether i maxed the fans or not after playing.

 

If you have an existing P150HM with 485M graphics card will you be able to update to optimus card like the 560M or doesn't the motherboard support this?

What is the order of graphics card performance: 460M -> 560M -> 485M ?

 

GTX560m is Optimus enabled, it only depends on the manufacturer whether they want to allow the technology to be implemented..

So far, Alienware & Toshiba are having their GTX560m with Optimus.
I've also heard that the upcoming G74SX will have it.
I'm unsure about the G53SX though =/

But isn't Optimus a little troublesome?
Besides being able to conserve a lot of power which is a big bonus, I heard that there will be many compability issues and that the discrete GPU won't be able to perform full throttle, isn't it?

Please correct me if I'm wrong, thanks =)

 

Can't we just get an option, or a hard switch to switch between the two graphics options? And yes, I have heard that Optimus was buggy, but appears to be getting much better.

I'm sorry, but not having this option available for the NP8150 (P150HM) is beyond me. I would have thought the mix of excellent performance coupled with the potential for decent battery life (4 hours) would be a no brainer?

 

switchable graphics is not possible with the current mobo.

my hope is Ivy bridge will finally bring it to clevo/sager gaming notebooks...

 

^ Which is due around beginning of next year... Well, once its implemented, you'll have an awesome laptop, decent battery on the go, coupled with awesome plugged in performance.

 

Good news! At least you can remap key to work..

 

Been having some issues with putting my NP8150 to sleep. When I hit sleep, the screen turns off, but the computer doesn't. The "Power Light" is still on and I can still hear the fans. Whats worse is I cannot wake the computer up from sleep, and the only option is to hard-reboot.

This has been occuring more often lately, but it seems to sleep fine if everything is unplugged (AC adapter, HDMI cable) and I disable both wireless and bluetooth. But should I have to do this to put the computer to sleep? I didn't think so ...