*** Official Sager NP8150/Clevo P150HM Owners Lounge ***

i live in malaysia
we probably share the same ambient temp, if not give and take a tiny bit of diffs
what im actually concerned is the card behaviour at the dangerous zone, not the temp rise

 

Purchased my Clevo P150HM today from Logical Blue One!

Specs:
i7-2920XM, GTX580M, 95% Gamut matte display, 16MB 1600mhz RAM, 256GB SSD + 750GB 7200rpm (in optical drive caddy) & Intel Ultimate N 6300.

Pretty happy with my purchase actually. Can't wait till it gets here (Friday hopefully!)

BUT... I want to install an internal HSDPA/UMTS/EVDO card. I can't find ANY information regarding anyone having done this before, yet i'm sure I can't be the first. The Clevo site mentions;

Two Mini Card slots
- 1st for WLAN half size Mini Card with PCIe and USB interface
- (Factory Option) 2nd for UMTS/HSPA 3.75G full size Mini Card with USB interface

The first slot will be occupied by the Intel 6300 card, but I should be able to purchase a card to fit into the 2nd mini card slot, yes? Pretty straight forward I hope.

I was hoping somebody could point me in the direction of a compatible module? I was looking at a HP WD301AA? I'm in Australia if that makes a difference..

Sorry about the long post, just don't want to buy the wrong thing. Thankyou in advance.

 

the thing is you should not let your temps reach that high. chances are your gpu/cpu was throttling thats why you get these so coalled issues but i would consider that 'normal' at those critical temps.

try those thing i mentioned, but the most important thing is propping up your notebook. i have easily dropped temps by 10c doing so. make sure that nothing is blocking your rear exhausts too.

also note that i am already using ic diamond but still need these precautions under my ambient temps.

 

Hi Guys,

I have a Sager NP8150. I have been using it for a few months now and i ABSOLUTELY love it. Everything works as it should except for one thing, and this is where i need you help.

I have a Intel 6300 wireless card and I am having issues with this. Whenever i connect to a wireless network, it will remain stable for the first few days. After that it says it is connected but with no internet access. Initially thought this was because of my router, but i have same issue when i tried connecting a friend's place too.

After a couple of reboots and switching on/off the LAN card, it eventually connects. I have been having this issue for some time now. Initially it didnt bother me much, but now its starting to get real annoying.

Would appreciate any thoughts or solutions you guys have on this matter.

FYI : I did try and uninstall and re-install the wifi card drivers..but no luck.

 

Hmm.. do you leave the computer on? Or do you make it go to sleep?

 

I usually leave it on. Only sometimes do I make it sleep.

 

oh i see
im also using the IC diamond but i just dont quite like how my laptop react without propping up the back
seems that im expecting a little too much from the cooling

 

Yes this model is among the most powerful and fastest on earth in a 15' chassis. The cooling in this machine is VERY good if you think about that.
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Got my P150HM today, installed all drivers from Device manager (i hate setup executables).

Im very happy with that laptop so far! Check sig for specs.

Question is this - is the THX worth installing? What exactly does it do and will it benefit me while listening to Winamp music with good headphones? Or is it just some fancy gaming stuff only? Shed some light for me please!

 

THX makes a huge difference with both headphones and the on-board speakers. I'd say install it, register it, and try it out for yourself. If you don't end up wanting it, you can go ahead and uninstall it.

In general, it adds bass and makes it sound more "natural".

 

Do P150 support 1866MHz ?

 

If your question is does the 1866MHz memory modules work in this model, yes it does.
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You need a CPU higher than the 2720QM, and yes,

1866MHz PnP modules to work in these models..

 

Are you sure? According to this the 1866 pnp modules work in the 2630, but only if you use 2 sticks:
Kingston HyperX 1866 PnP SODIMM Memory

 

What can we expect in terms of upcoming GPUs? Will there be replacements for the 580m and/or the 6990m in Q4 2011 or Q1 2012. I'm just wondering if I should hold off until then, I guess the Ivy Bridge also comes out... Will it be loads more expensive if I wait though? :S Eek, can't decide...

 

Hmm,

haven't tried 2 sticks, but the 2630QM definitely doesn't work with 4 sticks.

 

Every few months... at least, something is coming out.

In this never ending cycle of technology improvements one may need to upgrade 3 times a year in order to stay on the cutting edge.
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Thanks Larry.
I think I'll wait a few more months in order to secure its future since I don't need it immediately. One more question, if someone would answer! If I choose to install windows manually, how do I go about installing the drivers and keeping up to date with all the BIOS and any other drivers?

And also, will any HDMI to HDMI cable work to hook up the laptop to an external monitor, such as a 32". For example a 10$ cable?

Thanks, Josh

 

For drivers, you'll receive a disk with the necessary files on it to get everything running. You can also download drivers from the link below or via the Clevo/Sager websites. For the bios, you'll have to contact your retailer for the necessary files (unless you purchase a Clevo branded unit which you can upgrade from here):

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/416916-clevo-bios-thread.html
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/573379-clevo-driver-thread.html

Yes, any HDMI cable will work.

 

Thanks man, I was going to ask the same thing about drivers and BIOSes.

My Clevo P150HM-based notebook should be here in a few days, I think I'll need those drivers

 

^^^ Just a reminder, if yours is a Sager branded (NP8150) P150HM, then one should use the link below....

Software Upgrade

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Nope, not Sager, but thanks anyway

EIDT: I think I can use some drivers from there anyway

 

Yes you can use all of them except if they post a bios update or the like.
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is encountering artifacts @ 93 degree c normal ?
im still worried i might have a less than normal card
im using a 485m

 

You are approaching the higher end of where you want to be temperature wise, but you are still within limits. Do you get the artifacts at any other point in time, or is it only after it has reached those higher temps?

 

just right after 93 degree c
it throttles back and then fall back to high 80s
and hopefully it doesnt go all the way to 90+ again
lol

 

Could you give us more context (ambient room temperature, condition of dust in laptop, where you are using it, etc)?

 

Also how are you using your machine? Is it on a flat surface? Are the vents on the machine fully able to 'Breath' as it were?
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im based in malaysia where the temp is a little more humid, i also dont run the machine in a air conditioned room so the ambient temp might be a little high, i dont know the specific temp though.
i am using a coolermaster U2 so i think intake isnt much of a problem
i have also just cleared the dusts yesterday using a hair blower (LOL i know)

 

i used to have a cooler master storm sf-19; which is almost twice as god as yours; and it didnt make much difference in a non-ac room (philippines).
your best bet would be to prop up your laptop, hit fn+1, and have a fan right next to your laptop(at the side not at the back).

 

Hi folks,

My P8150, running Windows 7 SP1, won't sleep. It hibernates whenever I put it to sleep - no matter if I do it by lid, power button, Fn-F4, or even "Sleep" in the Windows->Shutdown menu.

Any ideas one what I need to do to keep it in sleep and not let it hibernate?

Thanks!

 

guys u can try my mod from here!!it dropped my temps 3-4 celsius!!

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/619377-p151hm1-np8130-cooling-mod.html

 

I purchased the laptop in my signature in July 2011 and ever since it arrived (since the very day I unboxed it) I have been having problems running Battlefield games. It started with Battlefield: Bad Company 2 which I play allot and love to death. On my previous laptop which was very low end I could just manage to run the game although I never experienced in crashes. Then I purchased my p150hm and was overjoyed by finally getting high performance but it was plagued with crashes.

[My system was setup up with the latest drivers and all and I had spent hours on end giving my dxdiag files to EA support and troubleshooting every way possible without resolve. My research lead me to believe that it was a known sound card issue and was a theory supported by the fact that I would often get a crash that felt as though it was triggered by a particular sound. These crashes would happen anywhere after 5minutes of play and made the game virtually unplayable. A month ago I upgrading from Windows 7 32bit to 64bit and I had a drastic performance boost as the crashes decreases significantly to a bearable level. Battlefield games are the only high end games I have played on the laptop.]

Now after highly anticipating the launch of Battlefield 3 I get my hands on the game and experience constant crashes. My current stats tell me that 37% of the games I have played in have crashed on me. Now of course there are many people experiencing crashes in Battlefield 3 (and in Bad Company 2) especially at the launch, even if they may be a minority. Up until now I have considered the problem to lie within the software of the game and not in my system but there has always been that small doubt in the back of my head, maybe out of ignorance, that perhaps it is something in my system.

So I decided to post here and ask fellow p150hm owners and resellers: why does my p150hm disagree with the Battlefield series and is there anything I can do to alleviate the issue on my end? Is there possibly something faulty, software or hardware, in my laptop? Or can eliminate the possibility of the the problem lying with my p150hm and look towards the software of the game and EA/DICE - I am no expert and this is my first high end computer.

I am very much aggrieved that I can't play favorite FPS series smoothly and would be eternally grateful for help. After all the main reason I dug into my pocket to buy a high end laptop for the first time was to have a machine that would play 2 high end games specifically: Battlefield 3 and Guild Wars 2 (even though I am now using it for graphic design and rendering as well).

PS: I monitor my temps while playing and have not had overheating. Also when the games are running they run stable with healthy fps rates.

 

@pepi8 - I have the same config as you have (usinga intel 510 ssd) but never experienced any crashes in BF3 in 3 days of playing.
Actually never experienced any crashes in any of the games I play (SC2, BF3, CIV 5, Heoroes 6) or Windows 7.

Check that all your drivers are up to date... if not i would contact your reseller.

 

Have you experienced the same crashing issues with any other games? If it is only occurring during the Battlefield games, then I would have to assume it is a software issue on their end. These games have had a lot of issues across multiple platforms (not just Sagers) and there are many people reporting that. Have you installed the most recent drivers for the GPU? They are supposed to be better for BF3, but a lot of users are still reporting crashes.

 

Yes of course I grabbed the 285.26 nvidia drivers as soon as they were released on the 24th. As for all my Clevo drivers they are all up to date and so too with my Windows drivers.

I do experience occasional blue screen crashes on my laptop sometimes just browsing the internet, but as I said BC2 and B3 are the only high end games I have tried. Other games don't crash yet they are not as demanding either and I barely play any other games.

Some other things I'll add just in case that may be pertinent:
1. I don't know much about how BIOS work and that is the only thing I haven't touched, checked or updated since I got the laptop. I saw a thread on notebookreview cautioning about touching the BIOS and so I didn't go near it.
2. The 2GB ddr3 1066Hz in my sigi I added in from my old laptop which had stopped working completely (it wouldn't turn on - I don't think the BIOS was starting and my theory was it died from overheating).

That is thoroughly disconcerting .

 

@ pepi
What do you mean by you occasionally get blue screens? That shouldn't be happening.
Try pulling out the ram you added. It could be bad ram or just frequency mismatch.

Edit :
Also make sure the ram is seated correctly. I also added ram myself, was getting bsods, only to find out the ram I added was loose. It should snap into place.

 

I would rule out the RAM not being seated properly - it was my first time inserting RAM into a laptop and I exercised extreme care as a result, researching how it is done etc.

By occasionally I mean it has happened no more than 10 times since I purchased the laptop in July.

Should I try removing my old 2GB RAM? It is quite tedious to remove it and then put it back in seeing as it sits under the keyboard not at the bottom, so I just want to be certain.

 

Hi guys,

Has anyone been runn ing the 285.62 WHQL drivers with a 485M / 580M yet? And if so, have you experienced any problems with any games?

My past experience with updating notebook drivers has been pretty bad, so i'm a little scaptical

@pepi18: If you have manually set your bios to clock all of your RAM to 1333, the 1066 mhz RM is being force overclocked. If this is the case, it could be the cause of your problems. If the RAM is set to auto clock, it would have downclocked your 8GB ram to 1066 mhz.

I would remove the 2GB ram chip, as 8GB for gaming is still overkill... 4GB is more than enough to run one game at a time.

Although the frequency of system failures (i assume you meant BSOD's and not just random games crashing to desktop) is very slow, you can run the following stress tests to eliminate certain components to a certain extent (other faults may directly effect component specific tests, but it's better than nothing):

NOTE: The CPU and GPU stress tests push the relative components to their limits. Please check with your retailer or warranty provider as to how performing these tests may effect your warranty before doing so. They may advise you to RMA your system instead.

If you are unsure about how to use these test applications or the temperature monitoring software, ask someone first.

CPU - Prime 95 for around 2 hours. This will heavily stress all of your cores and threads to 100% useage. If the test announces any error of any kind, you may have an issue with relating to your CPU.

GPU - Furmark for at least 20 minutes. This will again heavily strain your GPU.

RAM - Memtest for at least one full pass. This needs to be run from boot, so you will need to create a bootable CD with this ISO and set your optical drive as your primary boot device in the system BIOS.

While running these tests, have either HWinfo32 or RealTemp sensors active to check component temperatures. If your CPU / GPU exceeds 90 degrees, stop the test IMMEDIATELY. The threshold for most Nvidia GPUs and Intel CPUs is between 90 and 105 degrees, going any higher may cause damage to your components.

As a point of reference, my i7 2720QM reached around 81 degrees while running Prime95, and my 485M GTX GPU reached around 84 degrees. These stress tests pusht he components to their limits so the temperatures are not indicative of real life scenarios. My P150HM reaches around 64 CPU and 78 GPU while playing Battlefield 3.

You can enable GPU temperature monitoring by entering the Realtemp setup and checking "Nvidia" int he bottom right hand corner.

I would start off with memtest, as if you only started experiencing these issues after installing the 2GB ram chip, it sounds very suspect.

Best of luck.

 

@pepi

ive had less than 10 bsod's since i started using windows. having ten ina couple of months is unacceptable.
but before you get agitated further, try out zalgradis' tips, if you are yet unwilling to remove the ram. although its hard to tell without the bsod code, i still think it is memory related.
the fact that your getting bsod's during normal use rules out any heat/performance issues with both the cpu/gpu, which is a good thing.
im thinking ram or hdd, but moreso ram.

 

Alright I've followed your advice and removed my old 2gb ddr3 1066Hz ram. I've been reading up and it seems its not a good idea to mix RAM frequencies as well. I'm testing now with Battlfield, thanks for the help.

Also, is it safe to mix brands? I have 2 x2gb Elpida RAM (came with laptop) and one Team Group Inc 4gb RAM which I bought separately (both ddr3 1333Hz).

EDIT: I'll post back later to say how I go.

 

ideally you want the same brands, but i have different brands on my 12gb machine, but they are all the same frequency.
i hope removing the ram solves your problems. keep us posted.

 

Well after playing around 5 games on end without a crash I can certainly begin to hope that you have helped me discover the problem at last: my old RAM with a lower frequency! It may still be too early to tell but so far I am already beginning to feel relieved.

Cheers and many thanks.

 

For those with nVidia cards, have you tried the new posted driver yet?

Graphics Driver - Verde 285.62 Driver - GeForce

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Larry, I'm sending you an email about something right now.

 

I answered it right now...
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so mobile 285.62 with a P150HM + 485M/580M = happy days, no issues?

 

well it could be frequency mismatch, but as the poster above said it should have automatched with default bios settings. it could very well be that your old ram is already defective. memtest should tell you if youre so inclined to find out.
hopefully it solves your issues permanently.

 

This is what we are trying to find out. Hopefully some will chime in here.
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that seems to be what they are reporting in the gaming section. even older cards are benefiting from these drivers they say.
although a few did post that it increased temps by a few *c.