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    *** Official Sager NP8150/Clevo P150HM Owners Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Daniel Hahn, Jan 4, 2011.

  1. hizzaah

    hizzaah Notebook Virtuoso

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    yeah, I wonder what the plastic underneath the coating looks like.. if it's able to be done cleanly, and the plastic was the same grey or black, it would look ok..

    I mean it wouldn't look any worse than the wear spots you're gonna make in it from using the trackpad..
     
  2. E.Blar

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    yeah... 10char
     
  3. thomson2010

    thomson2010 Newbie

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    Hello all,

    I am looking for a overclocking bios for my clevo p150hm.
    Does anyone have an idea or problem-solution for this?

    my clevo:
    i7 2920xm, hd6990m, samsung ssd 830 256GB, 18GB SSD crucial m4, 8gb ram
     
  4. hizzaah

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    I thought it was impossible to OC an XM in a P150HM due to the chipset..? Also, why would you use an 18GB SSD? That's too small to even hold windows.
     
  6. bennyg

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    Someone wasted their hard earned on an XM due to HM65 chipset... yes no multiplier OCing, but theoretically the best I think you could do is the SB equivalent of BCLK OCing but as it affects all BUSes, at most a few %. Nobody bothers. Most resellers I looked at didn't offer XM option (max CPU option was 2820 / 2860)

    18Gb is a typo I bet they meant 128Gb.
     
  7. Anthony@MALIBAL

    Anthony@MALIBAL Company Representative

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    You were correct. You need the HM67 chipset to have the unlocked multiplier to use. The HM65 in the P150HM doesn't have any option for that.
     
  8. E.Blar

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    Oh, 128GB makes sense. But... why didn't you buy a P170HM??? You can overclock on that, and both drive bays are SATAIII so both of your SSD's can run at full speed. You could keep the optical drive, too.
     
  9. thomson2010

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    Thanks a lot for your answers,
    yes...128gb crucial... :) 18gb doesnt make sense. i dont know, that the hm 65 chipset doesnt support oc.. thx for this. I bought the p150hm because I have a 15 "would have no 17" .. :)

    thx alot again and best regards from germany
     
  10. Mathamattix

    Mathamattix Newbie

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    So my np8150 is having an issue with letting me change the screen brightness while it is unplugged. I don't have the issue connected to the AC adapter, but even when I try to change my power settings, the screen brightness does not adjust accordingly. Any ideas on a fix?
     
  11. hizzaah

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    have you tried rebooting to see if you regain functionality? It just doesn't do anything when you adjust the brightness?

    Tried re-installing the display drivers? or gpu drivers?

    Brightness adjustment issues have been popping up in a few places with these models.. Did you install any windows updates just before having the issue?
     
  12. no1joey

    no1joey Newbie

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    Hi guys just ordered a Clevo P150HMA myself look forward to discussing it with you soon.
     
  13. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    Welcome.

    Where'd you order from and what are your specs?
     
  14. bennyg

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    Mine has a similar issue, all i need to do is close the lid (i have sleep mode disabled on lid close in power profiles) and it changes the brightness and the Fn key shortcuts respond again.

    Seems to happen very sporadically after sleep/ hibernate resume only, both on battery and on ac for me
     
  15. kevindd992002

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    I hope we can, once and for all, solve the problem about this adjusting brightness problems with these laptops :(
     
  16. fantomasz

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    Just can't wait for new 170EM.Backlight keyboard is a must for me thats why I don't want 170HM.Glossy screen is OK with me and I don't nee iivy bridge.DO I need 16GB RAM or 8 is enought for games?
     
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    8Gb is plenty for games ;)
     
  18. Anthony@MALIBAL

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    It's not a very widespread problem. The two issues that cropped up are two more than I've seen here for months. It seems to come and go, especially when Nvidia has released new drivers. Something in the drivers seems to cause a conflict on a select few machines for whatever reason.

    8GB is more than enough for games. I only run 16GB in my machines for VM work. Also, if you're looking for help specifically on the P170, you may want to try asking in that owners' lounge.
     
  19. E.Blar

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    Sorry I didn't post this sooner, I saw it the minute it appeared but had to go abruptly: the NP8150 is now available once again from the sager website, while supplies last. The screen is no longer upgradeable, and the 6990m is the only gpu. It is $200 cheaper than it used to be. On the "overview" page, it still claims to be the world's most powerfull 15.6 inch notebook... :p
     
  20. E.Blar

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    ^^^^ I can't believe I kept re-typing that for 30 mins trying to edit it and having my browser delete it over and over and over...
     
  21. jaybee83

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    well, it still holds true@world´s most powerful 15.6 inch notebook, until the IB cpus are finally released :)

    cheers

    ps: its gotten reaaaaaal quiet here ever since the EM series was announced..... :(
     
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    I was wondering...

    It's no secret the GTX675M is a GTX580M, but will the P150HM support it aswell?
     
  23. jaybee83

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    not sure yet, but we should hear news from mythlogic soon, since they were about to check the compatibility of the new gpus in the HM series, last i heard...

    cheers
     
  24. pau1ow

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    I'm sure it will be, the GTX580M has been successfully flashed with the Clevo GTX675M in the M17xR3, MSI 16F2 and P150HM and have worked flawlessly so no doubt the 675M is working in the P150HM.
     
  25. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    @pau1ow

    Who flashed it on P150HM?
     
  26. jaybee83

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    good news :) heres to hoping it will be the same with the 680m / 7970m! :p

    cheers
     
  27. pau1ow

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    I've done a thread on the French forum here: P4G / Transformer ses 580M en 675M ! C'est possible !
    And "Tonrac" successfully turned his Clevo 580M into 675M :p

    Now we know why 580M is running out, basically because NVIDIA must be flashing all of them at the moment :confused:
     
  28. Ktulu85

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    Hey all,

    I noticed today that while gaming my CPU temps hit up to 79 degrees Celsius.

    is this something I should be worried about, or is this normal temps for load?

    I know that would be OK for GPU temps but I haven't seen the CPU go that high
     
  29. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    79C is still fine. Certain games are more CPU demanding then others so you'll see different CPU temps according to the game you're playing. While 79C is getting a little high its nothing to get too worried about. Give the vents, fans, etc a good cleaning and that might help a bit.
     
  30. kevindd992002

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    Just to confirm, the new Clevo laptops still have SB CPUs on them when you buy them now but are compatible with IB when it is released?
     
  31. Anthony@MALIBAL

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    Correct. And Ivy Bridge CPU's are getting closer by the day, so for people that don't need machines immediately it can be beneficial to wait just a bit.

    EDIT: Also, this is the P150HM thread, which are no longer being produced and which DO NOT have compatible motherboards. Only the new EM models will.
     
  32. theo415

    theo415 Notebook Guru

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    Anyone's got an idea why my laptop freezes* almost always after some -moderate to extensive- use of google chrome and occasionally some other open programs? It seems the hard drive "locks up" and becomes inaccessible, and then a pop-up message says something like "The instruction 0x00000fe referenced memory [...] The memory could not be read."

    I'm guessing it has something to do with the hard drive or the RAM, although I hope it's a driver issue.
    Btw, is it safe to update the drivers with the driverscanner utitily? Has anyone tried it?


    *well, it's not exactly freezing, it's just that the whole system becomes unresponsive (files can't be opened and google chrome keeps loading). Also I see the led indicator of the hard drive to be constanly on, and after a little while it turns off.
     
  33. Anthony@MALIBAL

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    You might want to download Hiren's BootCD and try running some of the tools. Memtest will check your RAM and let you know if you've got any faulty sticks. Also try running one of the hard drive diagnostic tools as well, because it seems to me that you could have a failing drive.

    I wouldn't recommend a third party driver tool as they aren't always the best bet. Check your retailer for drivers or use the thread posted on this forum if you want the best compatible ones.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/573379-clevo-driver-thread.html (The front page hasn't been updated in a while, so you'll probably want to start at the end of the thread and move forward getting the drivers you need)
     
  34. M3ezu

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    Got this laptop in February because I didn't see the need to get the new model, I can live with the keyboard, I've never understood the need for a backlit one. Regardless, it's probably the most powerful PC I've owned so far. Currently looking into the possibility of upgrading the GPU sometime later this year should one of the resellers confirm that the new ones (hd7970m or gtx680m) work in the p150hm and are willing to sell them as separate parts ;)

    Small question:
    What's a good choice of usb sound card for these machines (for headset use). Been looking at ASUS Xonar U3 usb - is it a solid choice?

    P.S. This section truly is very quiet nowadays.
     
  35. theo415

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    Thanks, I ran Memtest overnight, 4 passes, nothing bad or faulty. I'll run it a couple of times more, and hopefully one of them for 8-9 passes.

    I also downloaded Seatools, and apparently my hdd is ok according to the long generic test. :rolleyes:
    Installed Intel Rapid Storage too, not sure if it'll have any impact at all, but it's worth a shot.
     
  36. Anthony@MALIBAL

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    There's no way to guarantee which parts will work in the future. When they're released, others will probably test them- but they may or may not work. Of note, high end cards like that will probably cost $500-800 depending on if you went AMD or Nvidia.

    As for the sound card, I've seen a lot of people here recommending the Creative X-Fi USB card, but I'm sure any highly reviewed model will do the same.
     
  37. M.H

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    I really, really, really :D hope the 7970m will work in P150HM. In the light of first benches from M17x thread, that would be such a huge upgrade for this model.
     
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    Do you have an SSD as your main drive?
     
  39. theo415

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    No, it's a 500GB Samsung hdd.

    Actually, just to update, ever since I installed Intel Rapid Storage, I haven't had a single issue with the hdd freezing the system. Probably it had something to do with an incompatible pre-installed driver for the hdd related hardware, cause when I installed the software the hdd got recognized (plus some other stuff - usb 3.0 if I remember correctly).
     
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    Is it worth to sell my 8150 to buy a 9150? I just bought my 8150 last month.
     
  41. jaybee83

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    if u can just give it back and get a full refund, why not? if ud have to sell it privately then i wouldnt do that, the EM series is pretty much just a facelift of the HM series performance-wise :)
     
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    too bad, it's more than a month now. lol. oh well, i'll stick with 8150 for now and upgrade in the future. Thanks!
     
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    Hey guys,

    My system has been running fine since I got it at the start of the year. I have just started playing SWTOR, and i was noticing that temps were reaching around 83 when gaming, and when I researched, it said that this was ok temps.

    Well today I went to play and now I am not getting anywhere near the Fps I was getting before, it was slow to load, and not only this game, i tested on Skyrim also, and it is playing terribly.

    When at idle, the GPU idles at around 50, and right now with Firefox open with 2 tabs it is sitting at 57 (CPU is in the high 40s).

    I ran Memtest for an hour and it had no errors, I will try again to let it go the whole way, but I tested with another software and it said that it was fine. Is there any tools that I can test the CPU and GPU?

    Cheers,
    dhoodle
     
  44. jaybee83

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    for stability testing u could use prime95 for the cpu and furmark/3dmark in loop/crysis benchmark on max for the gpu. sure that u activated ur performance profile and arent in powersaving or smth like that? ur idle temps sound fine,altho a tiny bit high for the gpu (mine idles around 38-41). check and see if theres any dust accumulation in ur vents and fans just to be sure.

    cheers

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  45. dhoodle

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    Thanks for your reply :)

    Ill check the dust, did not think of that :S

    What are you guys using to clean? Just compressed air?

    I just checked my power settings, as that was one of the things I was thinking about. They all seem fine.

    I am downloading furmark now, and will run the test overnight.

    is there a way so I know if it is playing up after running the test?

    EDIT - Ran Furmark.
    AMD® Radeon HD 6990M
    SCORE:1297 points (21 FPS, 60000 ms)
    Max GPU Temp: 92°C
    Resolution: 1920x1080 (FS) - AA:0 samples
    FPS: min:22, max:23, avg:21 - OPTIONS: DynBkg
    ATI Radeon HD 6000 Series (1002-6720)
     
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    i usually take off the backplate and take out the fans completely (just take off the screws, then the metal plate of the fan and u can take off the fan itself completely). then i use a cloth to remove any dust and actually rinse off the fan itself (the part with the blades, NOT the casing!) with water and let it dry off completely before putting it back. also make sure to remove any dust in the heatsink metal fins themselves, both for cpu and gpu.

    ur benchmark looks fine btw, concerning the fps rates. could u describe the symptoms that occur when u start a game? is it lagging, generally slow, what exactly is happening? also, use HWInfo 32 and let it run in the background when starting a game so u can check and see the maximum temps and clocks of both ur cpu and gpu. that should give is some good info on whats happening.

    cheers
     
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    Wow, It is fine this morning :S

    The only thing that is different is the power cord that plugs into the power pack. I leave one at home, and one at work. And then I have a spare when I am in different rooms of the house. I was testing last night in the lounge room (on a desk and not on my lap)

    The reason I do this is because my main desk is setup and it is a pain to get on the floor and pull the power cord out.

    Thanks for your help JB, I will definitely clean it now also :)
     
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    If it just happened that one time it could just be a power issue, ie the plug was either unintentionally pulled or was not plugged in well enough.


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  49. dhoodle

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    It was definitely plugged in. Well in Windows the plugged in power icon was on.

    I will test it again tonight with that power cord.

    I have just cleaned the dust, and it is idling at 42. I am an idiot! Such a simple oversight!

    I use SpeedFan to check my temps, but I was wondering if there was a program that would overlay the GPU temp over my game, like Fraps does?
     
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    such an option would indeed be practical@gpu temp overlay,although hwinfo does a fine job of recording both the min and max temps. amazing how much difference a dustcleaning makes,right? ;) its recommended to do it every 6-12 months or whenever u notice ur idle temps rising at identical ambient temp.
    cocerning ur psu n power cord,make sure none of them is faulty and properly connected in all spots.

    cheers

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