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    *** Official Sager NP9175 / Clevo P775TM Owner's Lounge! ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Oct 6, 2017.

  1. wyvernV2

    wyvernV2 Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes, did reset bios/NVM reset before posting here.
    Last time(1-2months) this did solve the problem, but this time it didnt!
     
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    If I may ask, what's the paperclip mod?

    Also, wha'ts "LM between the IHS"? thanks in advance for all the help!
     
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    Update: the repair shop called me, said there are some scorch marks over my hdd bay and at charging port, and said they need to replace MoBo. They said they could talk to clevo for replacement MoBo, but cant guarantee they would get it.(obv this would be at my cost)
    Is it possible, would clevo provide MoBo?

    Btw incidents like this make the Hidevolutiin global warranty look more DELICIOUS!(dosent it @Donald@HIDevolution)
     
  4. wyvernV2

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    LM (liquid-metal thermal paste example cool laboratory liquid ultra)
     
  5. ajfoucault

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    Thanks for the response, also I assume IHS is just referring to the Integrated Heat Spreader.

    What's the paperclip mod?
     
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  6. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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  7. wyvernV2

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    Yes, ihs is integrated heat spreader, also for paper clip mod, see the post from sir @Papusan :D :) ;)
     
  8. ole!!!

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    you can get a quote from eurocom or rjtech of how much they sell a mobo, if they got any, send the quote to the shop for a final detail cost but i can assure you that if replacing mobo won't work, shop will charge you and wont stand behind it.

    i recommend getting the laptop back from shop first, shop aren't trust worthy unless you know someone who works there very knowledgeable about computers. they never seen a clevo laptop b4 they can't draw a conclusion that theres burn mark unless its bloody obvious, ask them to take a picture and show it to you. for all we know the color came by default with the laptop.
     
  9. Meaker@Sager

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    A small shop is unlikely to source straight from Clevo, it's most likely they would go through a 3rd party like a reseller.
     
  10. Al_Jourgensen

    Al_Jourgensen Notebook Consultant

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    Hello community

    Well I’m tired of asking, but I’m going to try again, until some soul out there answers....is there any reviews about this laptop? I want to buy one, I don’t know if there is other brand that can compete with a 8700K and a GTX 1080 on this one.

    Does any one have one, can you please tell me how it is working? Noise, temp. Etc?

    Also, I’m from Portugal, and strangely they are delayed since December; almost 40 guys waiting for one of these, does anyone have some kind of news about this?

    Thank you in advanced for your attention
     
  11. Leon321

    Leon321 Notebook Enthusiast

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    XMG, Obsidian and PC Specialist has in stock.

    I haven't seen any reviews but feedback from owners have been positive.
     
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  12. Georgel

    Georgel Notebook Virtuoso

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    Wait for notebookreview to do theirs if you need to

    Clevo is the only company who makes 8700K based laptops
     
  13. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    The chassis is very similar to the last model so most points should still stand review wise.
     
  14. Al_Jourgensen

    Al_Jourgensen Notebook Consultant

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    I´m waiting since December, what is going on with this delay......so nobody has one yet, it´s Clevo´s fault this delay.....Jesus.....Why......i´m desperating without a laptop.......if there only would be a press release or something, but i see that it´s incognito
     
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  15. Georgel

    Georgel Notebook Virtuoso

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    You don't fully understand

    Clevo is a barebones creator, they do not advertise

    Sager might sometimes,

    EVOC Clevo systems get some recognition sometimes

    As for why there is no review, who will do it?

    This is not a hobby, this a serious thing that needs proper control and measurement.

    I write pro level audiophile reviews, for example. Do you think that Clevo, Sager, HIDevolution or anyone will feel like sending a review sample so I can compare P775DM3-G with P775TM? Or do you expect that everybody has the budget to purchase and own all of those at once? While with earphones and headphones you can switch because you want, laptops are something you generally use only one of, like a desktop PC.

    For example, one audiophile review takes me ten hours or more to write, edit, not to mention taking and editing the photos.

    https://audiophile-heaven.blogspot.com/

    I imagine a laptop review would take at least as much, or more, to do all the proper tests.

    Once again, if companies would send review samples, there would be reviews, notebookcheck sure would pick and write one. Me as well. Any good reviewer would./
     
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  16. Al_Jourgensen

    Al_Jourgensen Notebook Consultant

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    Thank you for your reply my friend
     
  17. Al_Jourgensen

    Al_Jourgensen Notebook Consultant

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    Thank you my friend for your answer....the question now is why this delay, and why no news about it, i understand that Clevo has no feedback as you told, but with a groing market, we deserve a little more from them...it´s just my opinion

    By the way, i love these reviews, you do a magnificent job and some of them lead me to buy my first one, the P771DMG, this is my second one, and it´s because of the work of this website that i decided to buy it, since i saw the best review ever, cause there is nothing compared to that review, just google "Asus vs MSI vs Clevo", you were definitely the best writing that one

    Congratulations and keep up the good work
     
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  18. Al_Jourgensen

    Al_Jourgensen Notebook Consultant

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    I have only one doubt, this laptop (the P775TMG) has 2 Mini DP to DP 1.3 conections, would a cable 1.2 works? what would you lose with an infirior version of the cable?

    I´m asking this, cause DP is very cool, but very complex regarding this features, a little bit less or more and you get a black screen, not a BSOD, more like a shut down, or blinking image, and i only find 1.4 or 1.2 cables, 1.3 don´t exist, at least that was what "cablemasters" told me

    I´m a little confuse, since i know the cable doesn´t exist, and i only have the 1.2 version
     
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  19. ole!!!

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    as for review i dont do them, but several people gotten 870TM and 775TM and using them already.
     
  20. Dc_79

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    If you can afford it then go for the P870tm. It has the same spec but a bigger chasis so runs cooler.

    Try metabox reviews on YouTube I think they reviewed one.
     
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  21. Al_Jourgensen

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    Thank you i will
     
  22. Al_Jourgensen

    Al_Jourgensen Notebook Consultant

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    And do you know if they are noise and if the temps are good?
     
  23. Al_Jourgensen

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    They have none, only the beast P870TM, but thank you for the tip
     
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  24. ole!!!

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    i have a very good cpu and a 1070 waiting to replace 1070 with volta next year. imo the noises are decent and temps are good, are you into cpu/gpu or both.
     
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    The 1070 is a sweet spot card to be at, it would be hard to justify moving up until the next gen for most people.
     
  26. Al_Jourgensen

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    overall i would like to know both, plus the noise, i saw the p870TM review, and it´s noise, i presume it´s a little bit under that.
    I´m going to buy the barebone with a 1080 and a 8700K, and put 32G hiper x impact that came with my previous notebook the P771DMG with a 980M and a 6700K; this one was a little noise, but had good behave in temps, if it´s like this one or better in that matter i would be very satisfied, but i don´t think that with the 1080 and the 8700k on it, that could be less noise...the thermal compound has to be Very decent to have it as quiet as possible,
    i don´t know who wins in terms of noise and temps between these two....but this is the only forum that talks about it, and i see no complains

    Because of the noise, i was thinking in a water cooling tower.....mostly because of the noise.......but i don´t know witch one to choose since i lose myself completely over time cause i only bought gaming notebooks.....but when i think in mobility....Clevo has a big weight on that.....now, i don´t need such a big mobility, but it would cost me more to mount a tower, since i have to buy RAM, Motherboard, Graphics Card, and some decent case...thermaltek was my first thought.....Motherboard i don´t know witch one to pick, cause i don´t understand nothing about water cooling

    well, it´s a dilemma....
     
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    i want a 2080, and a large gpu heatsink, non vaper chamber type.
     
  28. Dc_79

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    Well I had a p170sm and swapped to the P870tm and the 870 is quieter while gaming. I would guess the 870 to be the quietest just because of the size I've only looked at the 775 and it's size was almost the same as my old p170sm so the 870 is a bit bigger.

    Temps are fine with the games I tried and I have even left mine stock after the win 10 reset and still saw no heat issues while gaming for a few hours.
     
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  29. Al_Jourgensen

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    Thank you my friend for your feedback, that´s good to know
     
  30. Al_Jourgensen

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    my clevo store here in Portugal, said that the thermal compound that they are using is the "Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut", cause the one that "Hidevolution" is using, degradates more quickly over time, and they had more costumers complaining about it, so they change it for that one, saying that it´s better

    what do you guys think, or advise?
     
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  31. Qadhi79

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    Thermal Grizzly is the best so go for it.

    Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk
     
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    another question that i made and nobody notice, is regarding the 1.3 mini displayport to displayport cable,there is no 1.3 version of this cable, only 1.2 or 1.4 versions are available.....could the 1.2 version handle it to an external monitor, or do i have to buy an 1.4 cable? or should i try the type-c thunderbolt to displayport? i have an Asus PG278QR
     
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    Why would you want to avoid a vapor chamber?
     
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    cause i need the extra space over slave mxm slot for mod
     
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    Is that mod worth the increase in GPU temps though? I suppose it depends on what you are targeting of course :) It is a fair amount of internal space.
     
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    Anyone run handbrake on their delidded 8700k yet? Just tried on mine. Locked at 4.6, -50mV, and it was hitting 96c on some cores. Wondering if anyone else has similar results. If not, think I'm going to attempt to redo the paste and LM
     
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    Do I understand correctly? P775TM-G is model with gtx 1060, and P775TM1-G is model with gtx 1080?
     
  38. Meaker@Sager

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    Naming can change with reseller and with no motherboard difference then it does not really matter.
     
  39. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    Although naming can be misleading, and different sellers use different names, sometimes even ignoring those types of numbers, on this generation you should only care for the last numbers when you are going to flash the BIOS.
    The TM uses one BIOS and EC and the TM1 uses another BIOS and another EC.
     
  40. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Right, P7xxTM is the model name for GTX 1060 and P7xxTM 1 for GTX 1080 & GTX 1070.
     
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    P7ххTM with 1060 can upgrade to 1080, without problem, right? Then what's the difference?
     
  42. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    The hardware difference is the GPU! :p

    P7xxTM: 1060/1070
    P7xxTM1: 1080
     
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    I'm about bios, EC, maybe cooling system...

    thanks for the info!
     
  44. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    The cooling is different between the 15" and the 17" regardless of GPU.
    The system firmware is GPU model specific.
    The difference between TM & TM1 are the GPUs.
     
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    I'll check when I get home...

    Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
     
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    Appreciate it.
     
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    Power target and fan curve differences @FTW_260 but nothing major.
     
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    Just ok, got today a P775TM-G from @tanzmeister , and it's perfect machine. But one moment: with my i3-8100 G-Sync doesn`t work. :confused: Will found some i5-i7 to check it.
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    It's also more to do with g-sync licenses on the BIOS end...
     
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  50. tanzmeister

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    I've got the impression from Clevo support replies that xM1 vs xM models naming are due to different PSU certification and mostly have legal grounds behind that.

    I might be wrong though.
     
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