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None know how hot Coffee will be in laptops. Have to wait and see
Btw. A new one in the forum with GT75VR and Liquid metal

 

lol I got better temps in P870DM3

But then again I did delid, repad, removed c-clips..

Just a few more weeks and we'll see if Clevo improved cooling!

 

Hard to say which P7xx the following benches belong to
Skydiver - http://www.3dmark.com/sd/4857934
Firestrike - https://www.3dmark.com/fs/13944453
Firestrike Extreme - http://www.3dmark.com/fs/13944491
Firestrike Ultra - http://www.3dmark.com/fs/13944518

 

Hello communty

Does somebody know when is gonna be released the P775TM-G in Europe? or prices....


thank you

 

Should be similar to everywhere else I would have thought around mid Nov.

 

End of November for Mysn and PCS. For PCS the date is 24th November 2017.

 

Does anyone know what kind of new panel is Clevo using? I mean the default panel at PCS, the G-Sync Full hd 120hz panel with 90% ntsc. It is not the AUO 120 hz GSync panel used by Asus, because that has 74% ntsc. Is it tn 5 ms or ips 25 ms ?

Also, did Clevo update the cooling system?
The quality and performance of the cooling in the p775dm3 was horrible. Performance was better after delid but the quality omg...cheap screws which break easely and the contact area was full of scratches and pits. Terrible quality.

 

Yes the cooling system has changed.

 

Well... We're waiting for photos!

 

Already posted several places!!

 

He didn't reply to my message or my PM.
He needs to use cooler boost 100%
GT7X will not ramp up CPU fan until 80C+ and GPU fan until 70C+, so his teams are meaningless without 100% fan.

 

Well, the cooling seems almost the same except there are 2 heatpipes less and thus they are not connected anymore. I like this idea since now if I want to do a repaste I dont have to do both.
Now I wonder how good enough will 3 heatpipes are going to be to cool a 200w VGA now that the CPU is not transfering heat over it.
I also hope they also improved the quality.

I hope when a test goes online they will have that new misterious 120 hz full hd GSync screen.

I am definitely keeping my eyes on this one in case the G703VI is going to be a bust.

 

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Sembra essere perfettamente compatibile con la p775dm3g qualche considerazione?

 

You can only put 3 heatpipes over the core.

 

But heatsink is larger than core so extra 4th pipe could transfer extra heat from rest of the heatsink.

 

All depends on the weakest link in the package... The heat sink, pipes, grills + the fan. If the grills can't remove the heat fast enough... Even 10 pipes will not help a ****y. Everything is designed to work with each other

 

comparison of all 3 versions of P775DM2/3 TM heatsinks on a Kabylake CPU.
conclusion: P775DM3>P775TM
link

 

Without having the time to go through the results. Did the DM3 heatsink win in CPU, GPU and/or combined load testing?

 

Noooooo my plan to get 775TM1...

I haven't looked at the charts I'm on my phone but did Clevo just deunify the hs without testing

 

As far as I can tell they tested the DM3 with a combined load at TM heatsink with just CPU load.

 

these temperatures are strange. the cpu is delid? the fans are 100 percent? the gpu is enormously too hot for a gtx 1070. my p775dm3g 4.5 ghz aida fpu marks max 77/78 (7700k).

 

I am also interested in the sound characteristics of the fans. In the photos you can see that fans have rare ribs. In my DM1 model fans are diffrent and generate a very gentle whistle when they on high rpm. I saw that rib density and its shape have affect the sound that they produce.

 

Heatsinks:
DM3 7700K delidded : FPU 96degC (says thermal throttling as well) furmark 66degC
TM 7700K delidded: FPU 94?degC(says thermal throttling)
furmark 80degC

For the TM heatsink since it is de-unified, i think testing FPU, Furmark separately gives the same result as a FPU+Furmark

 

We are looking into adding support for GTX 1080 in P750TM1 model like we did in our Tornado F5. Do you guys think that this is good idea?

 

Are you talking about 15" model? P750? May be with a modded not-unified hs

 

In simple terms, YES. @Mr. Fox @Papusan

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As expected. Hope the cpu heatsink in TM models can get help from the bigger 6 core die

 

That extra area is just as dense in heat however.

 

Does anyone have a suggestion on where to order one of these laptops in Germany. The last time I ordered a new laptop I was in the USA and ordered one from Xotic and that worked very well.

I will be doing simulation development on the system, gpgpu neural network work and gaming. My plan is to pretty much max out the machine with 64GB of ram and a gtx 1080. Are there important differences to consider between the different resellers? I definitely want one with a TPM module in it also. I also want a USA keyboard layout.

I won't be overclocking the machine but I will be running some fairly intensive simulations and newer games.

Thanks

 

I think @XMG will be your best bet in Germany. I don' know if @clevo-extreme Also sold in that region.

 

Heh... we are from Germany too...

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We mainly sell in Europe but also import and supply chassis and parts to other companies, therefore we offer 11 language keyboards in this chassis including US.

As a reseller I'm not allowed to link to our website directly, but you would be looking at the XMG Ultra 17 which uses the P775TM chassis. TPM 2.0 is included in the Ultra 17 as standard.

There are some big differences between resellers and some close similarities. It wouldn't be fair for me to directly compare XMG to other companies, but we can offer major benefits through facts such as that we have been working with Clevo since 1993, we do all the building, testing, support and repairs in house rather than using a third party service center, we have an office in Taiwan to enable close communication with Clevo and other partners we work with in the region.

If you want to have a chat about this potential order then don't hesitate to pm me!

 

I am going to put an 8700K, 64 GB of ram and a GTX 1080 in this system but I won't be overclocking it. Are any of the extra cooling options a good idea? I would like to have all 6 cores run without thermal throttling at probably 90%+ load for an hour or so at a time. I doubt any game will push the cpu or gpu as hard as some of my simulations can do.

 

delid and lower voltage, otherwise cpu will without a doubt thermal throttle.

 

Exactly ! Without delid no chance !

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After doing a lot more research it looks like the 8700 hits the same turbo speed when all 6 cores are active. It would seem I am better off with an 8700 and doing the delid cooling options than going with an 8700K so that the system can maintain turbo as long as possible. Any thoughts on 8700 vs 8700k when I won't be doing any overclocking?

 

good work, thats doing responsibly on buyer's side of thing, since you are not overclocking you save money! a delid is still a must though, it'll help temp a lot. once you delid, lower the voltage a bit with throttlestop and it'll further reduce heat to keep it going for years.

 

Nop. Great choice i7-8700. Let me know. I can give you delid free

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Anyone know if there's an option to turn off the Nvidia GPU? It would be a shame if you can't use this juicy 82WH battery for productive use.

 

Nop. Not in p75x p77x p87x models.

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From what I have read delidding the CPU voids the manufacturer warranty from Intel but if the CPU is delidded by the laptop maker does that still get the warranty from the laptop maker? Does delidding shorten the life of the CPU or create other complications later?

 

If the reseller offers delidding like MySN in EU or HIDEvolution in the US will not void the the system's warranty, in matter of fact in that case the reseller itself will handle any warranty regarding the cpu so you are fully covered.
Delidding does not shorten the CPU's life, in matter of fact it is the other way around. Temps will be 10-20C lower and thus the heat sensitive components will deteriorate slower.

 

Hola, hola. Probably we are first provide delliding for desktop laptops. Is more makers which offer delliding in this business like only this two so...

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Yup, actually that's why I mentioned the non-K version to @Immudzen as an alternative. We have 8700K measurements in this chassis but the 8700 isn't finished testing yet. Once it is done the comparison results will help inform everyone about the differences, especially for those who aren't interested in OCing but still want the best stock performance.

Yes that's exactly correct, I we wouldn't offer it on our website and products and I wouldn't have suggested it over pm if our customers aren't 100% covered ;-) We have a large pool of data from delidded CPUs and 0% failure/problem rate.

Agree completely - although Intel socket CPUs have an extremely low failure rate so in a way it can help with the longevity of the CPU component, I think you're also refering to the fact that lower temperatures around the CPU socket and less heat build up in the chassis overall has a positive effect not only on the CPU temp, performance and fan noise levels but also for other heat sensitive components in the chassis.

 

Can anyone tell me what eDP cables the 1440p and 4k panels use? Do I have to change the cable from my FHD when upgrading to the 1440p?

 

Yes, the 120hz 1080p and up use a different cable (a 40pin eDP cable)

 

Thank you. Would it use the same 40 pin 4k eDP cable as the Clevo P870DMx?

 

No due to the different chassis that it uses (so different length needed)

 

Im confused of these results. This means with the new heatsinks cpu runs slightly cooler now and gpu runs way hotter?

 

Hm.. choice is only one i7-8700 and single gtx 1080 of you wanna have sli - buy desktop pc, not laptop.

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