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Or I could just downclock 8700k to 8700 specs for same lower tdp correct?
Not interested in sli

And i have hard time understanding these figures @dzpliu posted as comes from foreign language source. Is this correct? Are you sure thats also with delid on 7700k?.. Doesnt make any sense a redesign of heatsink for a measly 2 degree improvement on i think cpu and much higher temps on gpu?

 

There would be no point even making these products then. I'll wait to see real world temps, hopefully @Donald@HIDevolution and @Eurocom Support will have temps results under load for P751TM, P775TM1, P870TM1 soon.

I'm sure it'll be just like P870DM3 where we had to delid, redo thermal pads, etc.

 

Are you feeling ok?

 

not really

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Take care of yourself man

 

Hi guys!
I want to buy a gaming laptop. I took a look at the P775TM1 and fell in love for it. I didn't know that Clevo's laptops cooling system performed poorly until I started to search for it. After reading lots of posts about some Clevo's models in the forum I learned that if you really know what you are doing and mod the machine with surgery precision you can maintain a reliable and durable system. Problem is that I am traumatized with overheating laptops. I used to have a Dell and I used to play on it for 8 consecutive hours everyday, and I didn't even play crazy, heavy, procrastinator games, just Dota and emulators. After some time (let's say about 2,5yr) it started to shut down due to overheat. Then I repasted both cpu and gpu with some cheap thermal paste I bought by the corner of the quarter. It makes me cry until today. Well, we learn by our mistakes and that's a mistake I don't want to make again. I live in a place where in summer the ambient temperature hits 40ºC even at night.
That's the reason I come to seek your brilliant guidance.
First, by what I read, buying a P775DM3 or a P775TM1 is not a good idea if you are concerned about temperature throttle, is that so? Does anyone already know how the P775TM is performing in your hands? I read in someone's post that for the TM to perform in about 80ºC he opened a hole in the bottom cover of the chassis, among other things. At least it was what I understood.
After this let down of the TM I was considering the MSI GE Raider series and Dell Alienware 14 R4, but I don't know which is worse.
My intent is not to ask you for advise to buy my new machine, but to really know if someone already got a P775TM in hands and can tell about it's performance in terms of temperature and what I can expect of it after long hours of continuous play. I really need to know if it is possible to keep it for a long period, coz it will cost me the price of a car. Your thoughts on what laptop to consider to buy could be a bonus.

I would really appreciate your help. Sorry for the long boring text...

 

Nop. Ww receive this week first chassis for coffee lake and than we put into social Networks some screenshots , real pictures and benchamarks results...

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I can't wait for that! \o/ I wanted to buy a laptop this week.... should I order and ask the reseller to deliver it in the end of december when they learn all of the tricks and gaps of the system or should I buy another system which people now it performs cooler??? I don't know what to do!! My head is spinning....

 

Everything depend from your budget and many others things. But P775 chassis is without any Tricks good with cpu w/o K and with GTX 1070 this is my personally opinion. This chassis with GTX 1080 is just to Hot! i dont think if the same construction but with coffee lake is better than P775DM3... i think is hotter

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I think I agree with you man, you are the guy who make magic like this happen, I don't know about modding hahaha. But really, if it wasn't for all the thermal compounds, better heat sinks (maybe, I don't know, I'm guessing), deliding and clock limiting, this chassis wouldn't handle a system with 8th gen 6 core 95w TDP + GPU. But I couldn't say it at all coz I'm just an amateur and I don't have the experience that you guys have. All My respects here, but I praise stability over high performance. This is gonna be my first grown up system . I can't swap hardware every now and then.
Do you think that with a gtx1060 I can have a consistent difference over overheat?

 

Also, optimum for chassis p775 is i7-7700 or 7700k with delid + GTX 1060/1070 or i7-8700 + GTX 1060/1070 - this is of course my opinion if you can buy in similar price p775 7th and gtx 1070 to p775 8th and gtx 1060 - buy this one with 7th and gtx 1070

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Thank you for the tip. You have a very sexy set up on this model, but it's way more than I can afford at this moment with all the thermal adjustments... What is CLU and TGC dilids?

 

CLU - collaboratory liquid ultra, thermal grizzly conductonaut

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They are cheap in terms of money to do yourself but that does cost the warranty.

 

Yeah, I'm not in US/CA so the warrant already is an issue. That's why I'm so concerned about the temperatures this system will perform under heavy load. I need one that can handle heavy gaming and will last for a good time. I had a bad experience with Dell and wherever you read of them there will be complaints. I don't have an air conditioner so I'll have to rely solely on the reseller expertise on building my system to keep it cooled. Would a 15'' model perform better in terms of cooling? If I got a P775TM with a i7 8700 would it be any better?

 

Good to say. I hope we can provide soon more info about temps...

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I'm anxious for it \o/

 

So I'm torn between the clevo p775tm or the msi gt75vr. I really want a 1080 laptop this time so I can get a few years out of but want a laptop that doesnt cook itself to death. Any advice welcome guys as it's a big chunk of cash.

 

Scratch off Gt75vr from your list. Rather put in P870TM

 

You can tweak for thermals too if that's your game at which point the 1080 still outpaces the 1070 handily.

 

You can' get that model in the UK and I don't want to pay a £670 premium to import one.

 

I listed the best option for you. I can't know what you can get in UK.

 

If I stuck to a non K cpu would I still have heat issues even if the supplier uses good themal paste?

 

That' why I didn't mention that model as I'd looked at it but found no way round the import tax and I wasn't going to spend over 4 grand on a laptop.

 

You should be fine.

 

Thanks that puts my mind at ease as I like the clevo over msi because I can spec it just as I want.

 

One more quesion, is it worth getting the i7 over the i5?

 

From everything I can find there is almost no difference between the i7-8700 and i7-8700K unless you overclock it. On a laptop it looks like the best option is i7-8700 and upgraded cooling if you can. The i7-8700K max turbo is almost the same as the i7-8700 and the key will be keeping the chip cool enough to remain in turbo frequencies. With a laptop you are limited in what you can do to cool it so I don't see the i7-8700K making a great deal of sense since you probably can't keep it cool enough that it would actually run faster.

 

For gaming not really.

 

So the i5 8400 is a good choice

 

It will do well, though the K will give better performance with overclocking of course.

 

I am worried about heat though

 

You can always adjust your K to the thermal limits. But you can't overclock a non-K.

 

I'm bloody torn on what to do! I don' think I want a high maintenance laptop that I have to modify to keep running well.

I'm after something that plays games really well for the next few years.

 

Rather go for i7-8700 if you don’t want go for unlocked chips. i5-8400 has lot lower Boost clocks. High clocks is still preferred for games.

 

Thanks for the advice

 

In games the 65W TDP should not be an issue.

 

Whats the difference between:

17.3" Full HD (1920x1080) IPS LED Matte Type Display - with nVIDIA® G-SYNC™ Technology

and

17.3" 4K QFHD (3840x2160) AUO LED Matte Type Display - with nVIDIA® G-SYNC™ Technology

aside from the fact that the 4K is non-IPS (I assume it's just a TN)?

 

No, the 4K is not TN. It is the IPS-level AUO AHVA screen. LG IPS, AUO AHVA and Samsung PLS are all about the same, so the only real difference is Full HD (1920x1080) vs. 4K UHD (3840x2160).

 

Well. I just bought this laptop with this specs (Second gaming laptop. First one was 10 years ago)

Intel Core™ i7-8700K Coffee Lake
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 (8GB) GDDR5 (Pascal) DX12
330W AC Adapter Included
16GB (1x16GB) DDR4 2400MHz Dual Channel Memory
250GB Samsung 960 Evo NVMe M.2 SSD
1TB (FireCuda SSHD)

And I got those stuff for free

Black Out November Special
FREE Notebook Cooler
FREE Headset

And since I am an international customer. I have to pay more than $100 for shipping

Is there anything I have to worry about?

 

Is it worth getting 32gb of ram or will 16gb be enough?

 

How are your temps?

 

16GB is enough for gaming. But this is starting to be the minimum standard today. Buy 2x16GB sticks if you have the cash.

 

8gb is the current decent minimum. 16gb is still a nice buffer.

 

eDefin

This is GREAT advice. I wish I would have known about Prema before I purchased my Sager. It arrived, worked for 10 minutes and promptly gave up the ghost. I thought I was saving some money going with another dealer but, now, it looks as if I will be spending the $ I "saved" plus some... AND, I don't have a Prema Bios. #Bitter

 

what do you mean it gave up the ghost in 10 minutes? like did it fail and if so, how come?

 

Yes, I completed the (Cortana) Windows 10 startup...I then begin the process of download updated drivers (i.e. - visited the 1st website) and the computer cut off completely. I haven't been able to make it boot up since. When I press the power button, the keyboard briefly lights up and then the computer powers off again. Based on the suggestions in various forums, best course of action is to request an RMA.
Up to this point I have: Removed the battery for 30 mins, Removed the RAM for 30 mins, Removed the CMOS Battery for 30 mins, tried to power up using FN+D+Power at the same time...all to no avail. It's currently packed and sealed...awaiting the RMA from the seller on Monday. Hell of a way to spend a Holiday Weekend...I spoke to (Ted?) at HD Evolution right after I purchased my CPU. And the only reason I went with my seller is because HDE was close to $300 more for the same CPU (Sager NP9877 / 17.3" 3K QHD 2560x1440 @120Hz 5ms, Matte, G-Sync / 8th Gen Intel Coffee Lake Core i7-8700K Desktop CPU / nVidia GTX 1080 Desktop GPU 8GB GDDR5X / 16GB DDR4 2400MHz PC19200 / 256GB M.2 SSD)
At this point, I'm close to turned off about the whole "Custom Laptop"....Seriously considering takng the loss on the Clevo (Restocking) and picking up the Alienware 17R4. This has been a sh*t weekend for sure.

 

Edit: To answer the "Why" did it fail...I won't know until it has been received by the seller for repair. Based on the conversations that I've had in various posts, it looks like I rec'd a faulty motherboard. All of the people I spoke to agreed that a new computer shouldn't just shut down like it did. My next steps will be influenced HEAVILY by how the seller attempts to make this right. I've already lost $500 for a gig I had to give to another DJ as a result of my CPU Failure. With 4 more gigs in the month of December, I can't afford to wait weeks for a replacement.

 

That sucks dude!

As someone who just sold his AW15 R3... the grass is always greener.
AW still has its own thermal issues caused by the bunk tripod heatsink.
I personally had 2 laptops replaced and settled on my third sample.
Each AW15 had issues. Now with Kaby, don't even think of buying one without repasting with LM.

Your frustration is completely warranted, I would be pissed too.
You probably received a lemon, which slip through the cracks.
There are more chances of receiving a bunk laptop with Dell.
Trust me.

 

That's sound advice. Thank you! I'll wait to see what happens with my seller and if I'm not satisfied, I'm considering purchasing the same laptop from HID Evolution. I actually just sent Ted an email with a couple questions. The fact that they extensively QC each CPU that's sent out gives me more confidence that I won't receive a lemon going forward. And they are VERY active on this board. I can barely receive a email/call back from my seller.