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Regarding your concerns regarding the safety of liquid metal thermal interface material, yes applying anything metal conductive to a piece of electronic equipment has its risks, but we have a proprietary means of application to prevent leakage. Also, you can rest assured that any upgrades that we perform will be covered under warranty. Regarding its long term effects, we have been offering liquid metal thermal compound for over a year with no ill effects or reports of issues from users. On the contrary, we found liquid metal thermal material to be more effective than traditional thermal interface material over the long term.

 

Thanks again my friend. GPU temps with Conductonaut after stress test?


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Production hasn't published them yet...but you can figure on 6-10C lower, so low 80s.

 

Excellent. Thanks so much man. That pretty much seals it for me. Now to wait for the money to come through and then place an order.

OT: Do you plan to offer the Dell XPS 15 9575?


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Yes, once they become available.

 

The 9575 is the XPS 15 2-in-1 and is already available IIRC.


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Even though the risks are higher when applying liquid metal (LM), I don't think you should worry about it with HIDevolution doing the job. I have a P870DM system I purchased from them from Q1 2016 with LM applied between IHS and heatsink - it still runs fine. CPU temps are still good.

I am someone who travels a lot, so you'll find that laptop bouncing up and down in my backpack. I can see that they put electrical tape or some kind of film around the CPU - I'm not sure if their method has changed since then, but this protects LM from interacting with the CPU components.

 

Years ago I applied CLU to bare CPU/GPU dies and copper heatsinks without a care in the world because it was thick and never moved from where I put it. I didn't even know about these leakage protection methods until everyone starting using the new Conductonaut stuff which is super watery and runny compared to my old CLU. I have seen my Conductonaut applications flow off due to gravity even on laptops that spend most of their time on a table, only shuffled between home and work in a backpack. Preventative measures are basically required for Conductonaut.

 

We will not stock them, but we will have them up on our website shortly for special order.

What configuration do you want? Screen, CPU etc.

Grizzly Conductonaut on CPU + GPU is now available for the EVOC High Performance Systems P775TM1

 

EDIT: Thanks for the update


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This is getting too close to personal dealings that do not need to be taking up space here. Please either call me at 1-888-666-3418 Extension 44 between 9:00 AM and 6:00 PM Pacific Time, Monday through Friday, or email me, or PM me.

 

Agreed. Sorry people!


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@Donald@HIDevolution - is Grizzly Conductonaut available on CPU+GPU for P870TM1 too? My order is still in queue so hopefully it gets it

 

Yes, it is on the Configurator now.

Contact [email protected] to make sure your build gets it.

 

Just bought a P775TM1-G (75hz) from clevo-system (CEG) with gtx 1070. Hope it'll be shipped soon!
Still reading about premas bios trying to understand if it could be useful not only to oc but also to have some tweak helping the machine running coolest

 

I got a system with Prema mainly for the reason of having easier access to CPU setting abd undervolting as well as removing throttling that the stock clevo bios has.

 

You can still undervolt if your aim is to run at stock as cool as possible on the stock bios no issue.

 

sorry for the delay, had a surgery between(very much on the mend).
yes it’s IPS, no idea the model#? whatever Originpc supply. it definately does have much wider viewing angles than Tn displays I’ve seen, tho certainly nowhere near my MBP with touchbar

 

Hey @Donald@HIDevolution just want to say a public thank you for helping me with my order. And massive thumbs up to Jenny for helping me deal with some dramas later.

On another note, does anyone here encode H.265 10bit videos using Handbrake with the 8700K in this machine? How is your temperature? I think I might have sent my P750ZM to an early grave due to frequent overheating of the 4790K.

 

Yeah @Donald@HIDevolution is really in another category.

 

Other then some slightly annoying issues, I'm quite happy with the system overall.

 

What issues are you having?

 

WiFi wake up from sleep issues(killer 1550 card), screen banding because i have the 1.0v panel, couple of my keyboard keys have click sounds and my 1080 running at 87 to 90C. Zoltan and i found out that running AIDA64 stress test doesn't allow boost clocks stuck on 3.7GHz, while games clocks boost to 4.7GHz.

 

Have you tried undervolting the card? If so how?

Re. Killer Wifi, have you tried this?
https://www.killernetworking.com/driver-downloads/kb/faq/77-pc-wakes-from-sleep-unexpectedly

Screen banding is a bummer. I considered the AUO v1.4 but since it’s non-Gsync it was a deal breaker for me.

I’m still waiting for new SSD to arrive to fully set up the laptop so better gather all info now to resolve these issues.

 

You can't UV pascal cards. My issue with wifi is that it doesn't turn on again after waking up from sleep. I have to shut down and turn it on again for it to work. Nothing else I've done solves it. The AUO 1.0 i thought it wouldn't be that bad and i wouldn't notice it, boy was i so wrong.

 

You can. Here is my stock curve compared to my undervolt curve. On the stock curve, I would hit thermal throttle within minutes and drop to 1700s and 1600s, not to mention power throttle and microstutter from the fluctuating clocks. After undervolting, running Heaven overnight it never passes 83C while locked at 1847MHz and 912mV:

Spoiler

For the WiFi issue, try unchecking "Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power".

 

Could you tell me how to make MSI AB 'stick' to these settings when you restart or cold boot the laptop please? Also is there a permanent undervolting solution out there?

 

Save the curve to a profile and there's an option on the main interface to apply it at system startup.

 

Hi guys, just setup my p775tm1 (i7-8700 / GTX 1070) and running heaven benchmark my gpu reaches about 80°.
I found gpu fan really too much noisy, about 80db! How did you manage it to run quietly?

Thanks

 

How did you measure? There's no way it's 80dB.

 

FN+1 and my phone at about 15cm from the gpu-side grid

 

Yeah that's not accurate lol.

 

Sorry but i'm not finding this reply really usefull. I don't mind about the exactly db level, i'm just asking if it's normal that gpu fan run at its max level during a simple gaming session and it's really louder compared to cpu fan

Thanks

 

More like 60db. It's normal my old P670RG and my new P775TM1-G both run noisy when im running games or benchmarks.

 

But that's the exact issue, the dB level you measured is way off because you're using an inaccurate measuring device (phone) right next to the laptop. Even the loudest notebooks on max fans measured by Notebookcheck barely exceed 60 dB. dB is on a logarithmic scale, every 10 dB doubles perceived volume, so 60 dB is a big difference from 80 dB.

 

I don’t think anyone would say that the p775’s are quiet, we’re after power at the cost of portability, slimness and well cost...
at max speed the fans are quite loud, i knew this going in.
but they are the same fan to my eyes at least and at full speed should produce similar audio profiles. perhaps you do have a bad fan?

playing lego force awakens(modern but not hugely optimized or beautified) this AM i was hitting 78c on my 1080.. granted i see like 500fps, the fans were blasting but less than max flow for sure.

many users of desktop replacement machines simply use headphones..

 

How do you undervolt it?

 

MSI Afterburner, Ctrl + F and edit the curve to your liking and save a profile.

 

Ok there's something i just don't get. If i run any stress program like AIDA64 stress test or Prime95, the core clock fluctuate up and down and don't stay at 4.7ghz that i have it set to. In games or desktop it clocks up.

 

What does TS or HWiNFO show for the limit reason(s)?

 

I've got the same, even with Prema bios. If Cpu package power reaches 120w for too long, clocks start to fluctuate. On older i7 6700k it was stable like a rock. I think new generation of cpu with 6cores is a little cheated with their thermal performance. Maybe if you stay with temps below 60degrees C, (on desktop PC its posibble) it will give more solid clocks. I think, on laptops its impossible.

 

6 cores is 50% more power hungry at load, expect differences to the quad cores.

 

I could agree with you speaking about CPU, where clevo has a 65/95W tdp compared to Koffee lake "Mobile", but regarding GPU, a rog 752 handle a GTX 1070 under full load in silence.
It's a pleasure to play with the p775tm1 thanks to its performances and it would be really a top seller notebook just making a little improvement on gpu cooling system.

Another question about CPU (i7-8700):
running a 5min bench with intel XTU, i can see the system reach the "Power Limit Throttling" many times. It's a common behavior?

Thanks

 

i7-8700 - 65w TDP limits. Aka locked down to 65w long term power if you don't have a unlocked/mod firmware.

 

Some desktop motherboards get round Intel spec which is why you might see differences to reviews.

 

But its not undervolting. I can move this points only up and down (so i change only core frequency). It is downclocking (moving dots on y axis) relative to voltage (on x axis) which is blocked

 

Hi guys, I bought Clevo 775 (PcSpecialist) is it possible to install bios (PREMA)

 

if it were you would have it already. otherwise suffer like me for not doing enough research

 

Do you know how to install that bios ?