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    *** Official Sager NP9175 / Clevo P775TM Owner's Lounge! ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Oct 6, 2017.

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    Use the voltage curve with ctrl-F but for the most part Pascal can not be voltage tweaked in mobile form.
     
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    I'm trying to get my 8700K running at 4.7ghz on all cores as well as undervolting. I changed the multipliers to 47 on all cores and did an adaptive undervolt of 100mv. However I noticed in cpuz bench test that the volts went up to 1.41v. I think that is way to high, how do I get a fixed voltage of 1.25v on load. I'm very new to laptop overclocking, but I've been overclocking my desktops since the Q6600. Also i'm not familiar with the Prema bios.

    @Prema @Phoenix @Mr. Fox @Papusan
     
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    You can set a static voltage in the BIOS.
     
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    How would I go about doing that? Isn't static bad?
     
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    It's more power hungry at idle but gives you more direct control over the voltage. There will be a toggle option in the CPU settings if it's available.
     
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    Alright I'll take a look. I just don't want to hit the power cap, which seems like I am according to GPUZ. VR current perf cap and power perf cap.
     
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    That will be related to the GPU power consumption, not CPU.
     
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    Doesn't that come under total system power draw? Even though GPUZ says there's throttling, I don't see any. My 1080 always runs between 1798 - 1828. The thing I have to tackle is trying to keep the temps below 90C. Might have to invest in a laptop cooler and mod it a little.
     
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    thanks for the quick reply!
     
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    i have the IPS 120hz 1440p and it’s gorgeous..
     
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    thanks!
    with some small decreasing of the upper end of the curve i’m running in low 80’s in farcry5 w/ ultra settings
    XD
     
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    There's a IPS 120hz 1440p panel?
     
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    With Gsync?! :eek:
     
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    And 1080P 144Hz.
     
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    Model nunber?
     
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    So qhd 120hz is TN not IPS I guess.
    @m4gg0t Is yours qhd 144hz ips?
     
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    No, mine is QHD TN 120Hz.
     
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    Didn't you say you are having IPS banding problem?
     
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    It's the banding problem specifically with the first 1.0 model of the screen.
     
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    OK guys so I just got my 775 with a 8700k and Gtx 1080 for the re-paste I went with kryonaut because into the future I don’t think am prepared to deal with liquid metal I don’t have Perma and The CPU was not delid. Playing a couple games of pub with ultra settings the CPU stays in the 70s but the GPU goes up to 91. As I understand it I can undervolt the CPU using throttle stop and MSI afterburner for the GPU because control center isn’t that good the only thing I should do is control center for is the fans and keyboard lighting. Am I correct in all this? By the way I am very new to this but I’m trying to learn thank you so much.


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    You can control voltages on the laptop cards from what i know.
     
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    You can play with the voltage/frequency curve a little bit but it's not well controlled.
     
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    Hi guys, looking for a P775M1 i found all type of FHD panels, from 75hz to 144hz. Does the lower refresh rate indicate an oldest barebone revision or it's just a panel model change?

    Thanks
     
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    As long at you get a P775TM1-G you're getting the latest model. However the panels can be changed. The 75Hz one is the old LG IPS gsync panel while the 144hz is the latest one, but from what i know doesn't have gsync certification yet and I don't know if its IPS or TN.
     
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    17.3" Full HD (1920x1080) 144Hz~9ms IPS-level (AUO) 72% NTSC Matte Type Display - w/ nVIDIA® G-SYNC™ Technology
     
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    It's possibile to have 144hz display model?

    Regarding Thunderbolt 3 controller, it's a 40Gbps port?

    Thanks
     
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    Yes, the screen you quoted. 17.3" Full HD (1920x1080) 144Hz~9ms IPS-level (AUO) 72% NTSC Matte Type Display - w/ nVIDIA® G-SYNC™ Technology

    Yes, Thunderbolt 3 port is 40Gb/s.
     
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    My mistake, i would like to know which is the extact 144hz panel model ( Like B173QTN01.0 for 3K QHD AUO 120Hz display )
     
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    Those are the QHD panels. The 1080p 144hz screen is IPS that 9ms is going to feel slow. The QHD 1.4 version doesn't support gsync.
     
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    How it feels will depend on the user and what they are sensitive to motion wise.
     
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    FHD 144Hz~9ms AUO B173HAN03.1
     
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    And this is g-sync panel? Is it matte or glare?
     
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    Imo get the QHD screen, the 1.4v panel
     
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    Thanks.

    So, i'm going to buy a 75hz 775tm1-g with 1070gtx, cpu to be defined but i think it'll be the i5-8600k.
    Reading reviews and this discussion, i still don't have a clear vision regarding this model's majors defects. Is the fn controller really that bad? I've experience with a P150sm and fans are really annoing in any task, watching youtube too. I hope that after 4 years, clevo quietly improved this step.
    I also read about some temp problems in the XMG i7-8700 review...
    So, are you satisfied with this model?
    Regards
     
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    Hey all owners,

    I read that the GPU on this laptop reaches 90C+ under load. I am worried about that. Will it last 2 years, or will it conk out before that? If I do buy this laptop, I am looking into undervolting the GPU with Afterburner.

    Waiting for your inputs. Thanks in advance.


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    It would depend on which GPU you have I would think. I have a P75 not a P77 but my 1080 is one of those that reaches 90C+ under load. If you wait a day or two I can tell you how it fares after a repaste, paperclip mod, and undervolt.
     
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    Yeah, I'm looking at the 1080. Could you do just repaste and undervolt and tell me temperatures, since I know that the paperclip mod is out of my reach due to lack of experience and competence with opening up a laptop. Thanks for your input!


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    Uh well if you can repaste you can do the paperclip mod because it's super simple and you need to remove the heatsink anyway. In my case it would be heatsinks because the P75 uses a unified, so I have to repaste the CPU as well. Actually I still need to delid and put on the copper IHS, and do paperclip/toothpick mod on that heatsink. I can give like a temps comparison before and after mods with the CPU at say 4.6 and GPU undervolted, running a full CPU+GPU load like Prime95 (non-AVX) and Heaven at same time.

    I don't think a repaste alone would help that much because my reseller already uses ICD and de-lidded the CPU (paste under the IHS not LM tho).
     
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    Without delid, undervolt, Grizzly Conductonaut and Prema BIOS, the Intel® Core™ i7-8700K temps will go higher than 90C. To stay in the low 80s, just don't OC the CPU (with an OC to 4.8GHz add 7-10C...which isn't worth it because you get very little performance bump for a good amount of heat bump)...but the 1080 GPU will still be 89-90C. With 1070 it will be in the 70s.

    With those temps, it will last for years...no conking! :)
     
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    If I order it, I'm ordering it from you guys. What temperatures should I expect if I just ask you guys to Delid with Conductonaut the 8700K and OC (and UV if possible) with @Prema BIOS to all-core speed of 4.7GHz?

    Also, will you guys repaste the GPU with Conductonaut like you do in some BGA laptops? Will that be enough to keep the 1080 below 90C? Also, can you guys willing to do the Paperclip mod for me?


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    4.7GHz is no OC, which will keep it in the low 80s.

    Yes, we just started using Grizzly Conductonaut on the GPU, after months of field testing it with no leakage, which will keep it under 90C.

    No need for foreign material to be inserted :)
     
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    Awesome. Just awesome.

    I think all-core speed of 4.7 is an OC (IIRC 8700K all-core is 4.3). And post delidding with Conductonaut, What us the temperature you guys get in AIDA64 stress test with 4.8GHz?

    Could you please update the page for the EVOC P775TM1 to reflect the option of Conductonaut on the GPU? Once you do that, I will configure it as I want and then see when I can order it.


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    Just talked to @Donald@HIDevolution via chat about using Conductonaut on my GPU + between IHS-HeatSink instead of GC.

    What kind of field testing do you guys do? Put laptop in backpack and jog a few miles? :rolleyes:
     
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    Thanks bro. I am going to get it repasted by HIDevolution, since I don't have the guts to take the risk of trying my first repaste on a laptop as expensive as the configuration I'm looking at on HIDevolution's website. I know, I am a noob :)


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    My 8700K running at 4.7ghz all cores doesn't get hotter then 78C, I also don't have a UV on it as volts spike up to 1.4v. Haven't really done much testing yet. My 1080 runs at 85 - 90C, though i have GC and not Conductornaut. I might get some to repast as long as I don't have to add things to make it unconductive. What is this paper clip mod? Does it actually help in lowering temps? Would like to get the 1080 running close to desktop speeds.
     
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    Yes, actually, twice a day. :)
     
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    https://ark.intel.com/products/126684/Intel-Core-i7-8700K-Processor-12M-Cache-up-to-4_70-GHz. With the Custom Prema BIOS we lock all 6 Cores at 4.7GHz.

    @4.8GHz on all 6 Cores = +/- 86C after AIDA64 stress test.

    Grizzly Conductonaut on both the CPU and GPU is now protocol, and will probably be added to our website tomorrow.
     
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