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Depends, no harm in giving it a go.

 

Here Creative.UWPRPCService and NahimicService are running both at the same time btw.

I've moved the Alan Finotty certificates to 'untrusted' which didn't have any impact on running the programs.

 

It might be also hardware issue.

 

Hardware issues are very unlikely to give one off symptoms.

 

Seems legit.

 

Hey guys I’m ready to pull a trigger to the 775TM1 with 2080 and 9700k.
I want your opinions about this system
Is it worth the money?
Temps GPU and cpu??
Thanks in advance

 

What are you using it for?

 

If you’re playing RDR2, I’d recommend an 8700K over the 9700K. The RAGE engine has an issue since GTA V that causes massive stuttering on non Hyper-Threaded CPUs, which you can see in the 1% and 0.1% lows here:

 

9700K may need an underclock to run cool enough, as i understand... which is not the best use for unlocked CPU. So I vote for 8700k from this point of view.
2080 - definitely, if you don't mind spending 1600$ for gpu. Best choice until someone cracks powerlimit on 2070.

 

Most of the time I’m playing FPS games.
And that’s the reason I’m changing laptop(cpu)
I’m playing BF5 and my GPU utilization it’s only like 65-75% and cpu is 95-98%
And I oc the 7820Hq 4.7 and 4.8ghz

 

So you’re saying that the temps it’s the problem...

 

I just that game it’s destroying any graphics card .
It’s beautiful game but very hungry
I can put an 8700k and maybe later an 9700k

 

I had a 9900k and a GTX1080 in my P775tm1-g with a non-unified heatsink. What I can tell you about the temps and performance, the 9900K was clocked at 4.8Ghz with a decent undervolt and GTX1080 around 1936Mhz at 0.950mV and temps were in the 80-85c range when gaming.
(Max fans, delidded, liquid metal on GPU/CPU)

The RTX2080 and 9700k will likely run cooler, if you take the time to undervolt and set MSI afterburner voltage/frequency curve. If you can find a cheap 8086k, it would be a very good chip for that chassis.

 

80-85c it’s too hot
Right now I’m playing at 2130mhz study and +550 mem and my temps in 1080 are 62-65c and my 7820hq at 4.8Ghz it sits 70c with no max fans in Titan

 

Well that's 4 extra cores for you. The 9900k gets pretty toasty, however at 4.7Ghz temps were a lot better. I initially had an 8086k in it, and it ran decent temps at 5Ghz.

 

Since you’re concerned about temps, that’s additional reason to get an 8700K since with a de-lid it runs cooler than a 9700K.

 

Yeah the system will run that better than any mobile cpu based machine.

 

So you recommend it meaker?
Is it worth it compare to my Titan ??

 

For heavy titles like BFV yes, the question is the cost of the move worth it for you compared to say getting something at the start of a generation?

 

That's only become a issue if you play medium or below graphic settings. Set game graphics to high or above and its gone. Basically you need to shift load more heavily to the GPU.

 

Yes it's a CPU load issue, but some people may want to play at lower settings/res for higher frames, especially since this game seems to have an issue with laggy controls.

 

You’re right the cost will be high...
I think I will wait till next Intel -Nvidia generation.
Now about the bf5,if I change the settings from everything ultra to high settings,am I helping my 7820hq to rest a little bit?
So my 1080 utilization go up?

 

You should wait until ca. q2 of 2020

 

If you’re CPU/RAM bound, lowering graphical settings will reduce GPU usage but not increase performance.

 

But not likely decrease it much either.

 

How are your temps so good?

 

There were a bunch of other mods that I haven't listed there as well, such as custom copper IHS, 0.5mm copper shim for GPU etc. So a combination of mods and undervolts to get there.

 

Btw a little side note about BFV, at 1080p the game becomes CPU bound once I increase resolution scaling to 1440p it becomes GPU bound but lose about 30 fps which isn't great. This also depends on the map

 

If you use ultra settings it can be GPU-bound even at 1080p.

 

5Ghz 8086K should handle any cpu limitations for me at 1080P with ultra detail with cas 16 ddr4 3200mhz.

my last 7820HK was pretty cpu limited in some games especially fallout4 with vsync forced off.

 

6 cores at 5Ghz run games pretty nice.

 

Its does indeed that's where I have stuck for now.

 

That's not the case for me. Im always running around with 78 to 95% GPU usage and 70 to 92% CPU usage. This is with ultra settings.

I'm starting to feel like something is wrong with my system, but i cant figure it out.

 

Ah, I only played the campaign at 1080p max settings, and had no trouble fully utilizing my GPU at all times even with a 2GHz/11GHz OC. But then again, the campaign is a lot less CPU-intensive, so I’m assuming you’re talking about multiplayer. What are your frame rates in MP like at 1080p ultra? If your CPU usage is getting that high even with an 8700K, it does sound like the CPU is still the bottleneck.

For MP I’m playing at 1080p and nearly the lowest settings, along with a 117 FPS limit for G-Sync, so my GPU usage is never maxed out. I generally stay locked at 117 FPS, but there are times when my CPU gets maxed out and it can dip below. Especially on Operation Underground, where I drop to 100 FPS or below pretty regularly.

 

Yeah the MP mode will push past a fair few mobile chips abilities to feed the faster chips. It's still an edge case in gaming as a whole.

 

hi . i just buy p775tm with 8700 and 1070 gtx. my question is - GPU-z show ray tracing and direct ml not support on my system, furmark show low FPS (Full HD no MAA - 45fps, and my bios is stock core clock 1518 - boost 1733). my previous laptop - p775dm3 with same CPU and GPU (but stock clock is 1443 - boost 1645) show in same version Furmark - more 90fps (full hd no MAA) and GPU-Z show full support for all functions (vulcan ray tracing direct ml...) what is problem in 775TM. Driver for GPU - same 441.12

 

Have you tried using those functions? Furmark is a power virus, have you tried testing with some benchmarks?

 

I have tested in 3dmark11 standart - 21000 points
3dmark fire strike - 16000 points.
And i have first release bios TM and control center 2.0 not working. I need flash all version bios or only last version (.25. For XMG site and 27 for official Clevo site)...

 

Due to temps, I can only have 4.4GHz OC, anymore and it will throttle. Evenwwhen I have the laptop elevated and the ambient temps of my room are pretty low, it still gets to 92C. It's just crazy.
In BFV I get any where between 75 to 130 fps depending on the maps and areas with 70 to 98% GPU usage and 75 to 91% CPU usage. I also know BFV uses AVX.

The whole laptop just has these strange issues. I have yet to send it back to HIDevolution, been busy with IRL. Will have to do it soon.

 

Usually it's a jump to the latest.

 

Can anyone share their settings and numbers on temps clocks and so on? This 1080 acts very differently than my old 1070. I know every card and chip can be different but there should be some sort of normal consistency. seems no matter what I do its hot!!!! As for the CPU looks like 4,5 on all 6 cores is the max under 80c. thats with a 100.6 undervolt. Any help would be appreciated.

 

Are you using DX11 or DX12, and is Future Frame Rendering on or off? What is the CPU package power while playing BFV?

You can also undervolt the GTX 1080 using MSI Afterburner voltage/frequency curve editor. It helps a lot with the temps.

 

Have you checked your Conductonaut application recently? Besides of diffusing into copper over time, LM can turn into something of a paste if exposed to air over time due to poor heatsink contact.

 

hi. i have just buy 9900kf for my p775tm1. i update bios and install. but performance test is low, - pc mark 17500 points, my previous 8700 non k have 15800 score. always throttling 9900kf...
what is settings in bios or XTU for stable high performance without throttling. i have single CPU and Single GPU heatsink, cpu is fast overheating. my previos p770dm with dual heatsink better cooling 9900kf. this is problem in heatsink? for better cooling need replace single on dual heatsink?

 

That differs from silicon to silicon. However, you should be able to hold 4.7Ghz all core with a decent undervolt.

Try setting Power Limit 1 and 2 to "250000"
Set all cores to "47"
Uncore/Cache to "44"
Core Voltage Mode "Adaptive"
Core Voltage Offset "150"
Offset prefix "-"

Test temps and stability and adjust voltage offset accordingly, ie. if it's stable increase voltage offset to -160mV and test again. Repeat until you find the limit where stability is compromised or benchmark scores begin to tank and keep the undervolt at least -10mV under the limit.

Hwinfo64 is a great tool to see if any Performance Limit flags are raised and if any WHEA/L0 errors occur.

 

I'm using DX11, recently DX12 has been causing stutters and It feels a lot more laggy to me. CPU package power is around 98 to 120W depending.

Only the die and the IHS has Conductonaut. From the IHS to heatsink its Kryonaut.

 

My first instinct would be to check the application, see how the contact between IHS and heatsink is. Take a picture right after removing the heatsink to show how the paste is spread. If it's a good fit, you will notice a suction effect holding the heatsink in place when trying to remove it. Afterwards check the liquid metal application between die and IHS to make sure it's still fine.

Secondly, why are you running an override voltage of 1.2v for 4.4Ghz? Adaptive voltage with an undervolt works great for under 5.1Ghz and would net overall lower idle temps.

 

Future Frame Rendering is on I assume?

Your temps don’t seem that weird given the heat output of the CPU. I agree with jc_denton that you can probably use a lower override voltage for 4.4GHz, or better yet use adaptive mode with an offset.

 

Seems like normal for stock under the power limit actually in place. They don't hold 5Ghz all core turbo forever out of the box.

 

thanks. who have tested 775tm with 9900k/kf in benchmarks (stability prime95 aida64 for cpu load...)? what about single or dual heatsink? which is better? how much better?
Passmark benchmark site show 20438 points for stock 9900kf. my test show 17500. its very low as for me, and CPU is overheating but not throttling during test.