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Hmm, haven't thought about that, I don't really know the chemistry behind fusing of the two. Is it fine though, that in case I change back to using thermal paste between GPU and the HS, I leave the traces of LM on the plate?

 

On top the stain will increase the liquid metal's lifespan. The more grayish the better.

https://imgur.com/a/2xHnNVn

 

Sure. That won't hurt anything. I have done that more than once. It will be fine.

 

I didn’t seal my 8086K IHS. I was going to but ultimately wanted to test it out and just get it back together.

The lid spins freely like its floating on glass. Or it’s a 8086K fidget spinner edition!

I am also running LM on top of the IHS.

 

My whole heatsink is stained like crazy from running LM over and over again. Right now I’m using Kryonaut on my GPU and it’s stained badly. I just make sure the area is smooth. I’ve learned a lot from using LM and as long as you keep your components protected you can reapply and remove as much as you like.

 

That's how I delidded mine originally with the blade, very effective if you are careful.

 

Alright man, gotcha. I'll have to flatten the area a little bit, cause there are some drops there, but should be fine. Maybe, with a little pre-heat it'll go off easier. Not sure about applying LM to the GPU die again, since I didn't see a big difference in temperatures.

 

Gains are more drastic on the CPU side, when you compare LM results. GPU dies are less thermally dense so gains there are to be had but just not as extreme.

 

So I think the most you will gain with a Liquid metal on the GPU die is about 2-3C. I just scrounged up some LM out of my empty syringes earlier today, and I wiped off the Kryonaut and re-applied Conductonaut on my GPU. 2-3C is really about it. This very small gain is helpful inside of the P750TM1 chassis running a GTX1080 in helping maintain a solid 1,911Mhz boost clock. If your using Kryonaut thermal gel temps can get slightly over 80C which will knock you down to around 1,873Mhz

 

Plus the wider heatsinks are harder to get the perfect fitment.

I got a 12c reduction adjusting the pads. From that point I got another 12c reduction using liquid metal over paste.

 

24c reduction is a very substantial gain!

 

It is indeed, it gives a lot of headroom.

 

Yea I can’t ever go back to standard paste again for the CPU. LM on the top of IHS works very well! It doesn’t work that great on the GPU. But there’s a very small improvement still. Like 2-3C on GPU side.

When my new IHS comes maybe I can keep it under 90C.

 

Sounds like the GPU fitment is not spot on then.

 

I think it is ok fitment. I tried a shim, and temps were worse, much worse.

Last night I was testing my CPU with stock speeds and such. My load GPU temp came in at 70C at 1,911Mhz with no shim with LM on die.

I think @Papusan has found that results are minimal on the GPU with LM too.

 

A shim could be too thick or the contact is not flat.

 

Probably so. But, I think my GPU temps are as good as they can be in this chassis no?

 

<80c in a thinner chassis is a win IMO.

 

Running 1,898Mhz with 11,384Mhz memory
My temps never go above 80C.

It usually sits at 70-77C depending on my CPU overclock and ambient temperatures.

So, I’m at a wall right? Better temps will only happen with extreme China water cooling heatsink lol, or a P870TM chassis?

I wouldn’t mind dropping a 200TDP RTX2080 Super in this 15” chassis for sub 30K firestrike graphics performance.

 

Are you GPU limited in BFV?

 

Sometimes, but sometimes not. The game is kinda funny. You can be CPU limited, and GPU limited at the same time.

If you set a FPS limit to 141 in Rivatuner. Then I’ll be running frame rates of 120’s/130’s/140’s and my GPU usage will start to drop when it gets near that limiter or the refresh rate. So if I’m at 132FPS I’ll notice GPU usage dropping to 88-90%

So setting it to 154Hz offers more consistent performance. Because 150FPS is really the most the card will hit at any point in the game usually. So if I’m in the 130’s/140’s FPS range my GPU usage will Always stay at 99%.

Now sometimes the game can hit 100% CPU utilization on all 12 threads, and GPU usage can fall to 90% range and become bottlenecked by the CPU.

Just like if you look at a RTX2080Ti in multiplayer 64 people map online it averages the same frame rate at 1080P and 1440P. Because the RTX2080Ti was really CPU limited at 1080P. And then finally started to become GPU limited at 1440P or higher.

This game really hammers a CPU, and uses it to its fullest ability. And you can be CPU limited one minute, and then GPU limited the next lol.

I think 3440x1440 120Hz with a RTX2080Ti would probably be the best setup for BFV.

 

Hi, guys! Just got a serious problem. After some time under heavy load, I just noticed, that the fans were really quiet. Just as they ramped up, the laptop turned off. Now, it doesn't boot up, just turns on for 2-3 seconds and turns off, no video signal. Anything I could do for now? Cooled it off, but it still refuses. Hopefully not a dead GPU. BTW, how do you remove parts to get to CMOS battery in this one?

 

Sounds like what happened to me. My CPU had died.

 

I'll try to check it if possible, but so far I had no results after removing the battery, so I guess it is some hardware issue. I'll try to visit some repair shop around, but I doubt they had an experience of working with this particular example of a laptop, although it should be similar to some.

 

Actually, it would have been easier if it was just CPU, cause, thankfully, you can remove it here and buy a new one everywhere

 

Try reseating the CPU. If it still doesn't post, reseat the GPU as well and try with a single stick of ram.

 

Thank you for the advice. Well, I was only able to reseat the CPU (GPU didn't come out easily, so I gave up on that), and it didn't help so far. Right now, I took it to the repairs, which should have a better understanding in finding issues and solving problems, let's see what they can find

 

I abuse my CPU so much, It blows my mind to see them fail with average usage.

 

Well, so far I didn't get any valuable info, but it's not CPU since I tried another one and it didn't post as well. Might want to test the GPU but there are no professional repairs in my city. I would like to reseat the GPU if possible, but I don't have any idea about additional screws that are holding it to the MB. I only found two of them, but it doesn't want to come out still. Any advice?

 

Ok, nvm, it was just thermal pads that were pulling the GPU, kinda glued it together. So, I tried starting up without the GPU and the laptop booted without video signal (obviously) but it stayed on for a definitely longer time, until I shut it down myself. Can I now safely assume that it is GPU, that is faulty, since it wasn't shutting down on its own? When I reseated the GPU, it was the same, turning itself off after 2-3 seconds. I obviously would like to test another MXM GPU, but I doubt that I'll find one nearby.

 

Ok, so I only found an 670mx nearby, which is a mxm 3.0b I think. Will I be able to at least start the machine to see anything or is it not compatible?

 

Sometimes it's quite random. For others who experiment. it's a gamble

 

It's a lottery

 

It's down to electron migration of the paths and which is the weakest path out of the multi billion of them in the CPU.

 

Well I would love to get my 9900k under an electron microscope and see if that was the case.

 

Good luck finding it lol.

 

It'll be cheaper just to replace the CPU I reckon, hehe.

 

I think so too.

 

The "old" tech in the end will last longer, so they guarantee for it over 100 years of good functionality in optimal parameters, and I mean the old transistors, diodes and other SMD components.

So, the newer is the tech process of the CPU, the less it has to live.
Quite fantastic.

 

My 8086K is still solid. And It is still holding strong with a 4.9Ghz -0.160 or 5Ghz -0.150. Quite a fast (6) core. I see no issues with it. 10th gen intel will probably make my CPU look a little mainstream though..

 

Still gets more operations done over that shorter life span though.

 

True.

 

The fact that billions of little devices works at all is a miracle imo.

 

As long as you don't let out the magic electron smoke.

 

Or hold it upside down too long so the electrons all fall out

 

double post

 

Or lap the die to thin! haha

 

Yeah, the walls of the tank got too thin and they burst out

 

Hah, yea whoever thought that was a good ide-

 

That is 4 generations back from the last GTX 1060/70/80 generation, might be a stretch to get it working.
I guess that nobody tries to use these machines with an older and inferior graphics card so it will not be that easy to get feedback on this.

A better question might be to ask if there is a risk of producing further damage with a card that is not suited for your chassis. If that is very unlikely you may want to ask the seller if you can drop by and take it when your 775 boots with it. Personally I would at least check beforehand if the heatsink might fit.