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    *** Official Sager NP9175 / Clevo P775TM Owner's Lounge! ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Oct 6, 2017.

  1. Z3us_PL

    Z3us_PL Notebook Consultant

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    What thermal grease do you prefer? There is Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut with 12,5 W/mK. What else could I use? Is there any other better option?

    What is the difference between:
    1. Grizzly Kryonaut
    2. Grizzly Hydronaut

    What do you think about Grizzly Carbonaut? This thermal pad has 62 W/mk. Have you checked if it's worth it?
     
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  2. jc_denton

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    Ideally Conductonaut, since it's 73w/mk. But that's only if your heatsink has god contact to the IHS. From what I remember Hydronaut has a slightly lower thermal rating.
    As for the carbon pad, it works if you plan on never removing the heatsink/changing cpu. Since it has a tendency to break upon removal of heatsink, after you had it under a few thermal cycles.
     
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    Kryonaut was not different from MX-4 on GPU.
     
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    Still not equal good as high performance thermal paste/liquid metal. Only advantage is long therm usage without the need to change it. Liquid metal FTW!
     
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    Yes, absolutely. Liquid metal is definitely top tier stuff, as long as you have good contact. And I really wish Roman would hurry up with the new LM formula he's been teasing.
     
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    The first worry is getting contact just right.
     
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    Hi!
    what is the difference between the heatsinks:
    art.6-31-P77FN-40 1 (right for Clevo P775TM1-G RTX series) - this found at forum.
    [​IMG]
    art.6-31-P77FN-40 2 (for P775TM1-G RTX?) - this I want to buy.
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    Visually they are no different.
     
  8. jc_denton

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    I can stress this enough some times. Using a half a tube of LM to fill the gaps is not a way to go about fixing bad contact.
     
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  9. Meaker@Sager

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    Oh a great many contacts will be bridged that way, just maybe not the contact you want ;)
     
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    A moment of silence for hw going to heaven

     
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    I did once accidentally spurt some in the NP9570 I have to admit but I did mange to clean it up ;)
     
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    It's possible to save the system, if you act fast and smart. Also, using a can of CRC helps :D
     
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    It was off at the time and I was just careful. Used the syringe and a qtip.
     
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    Only time I had that sort of a scare was with the power modded 1080, where I accidentally smudged one of the shunts with my finger after the mod.
    Glad I didn't kill the card, but that did hurt my soul.
     
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    Still need to replace one of my shunt resistors that came loose, it just has some liquid metal running as the connection atm.
     
  16. jc_denton

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    Shouldn't be a problem, as long as the sensor gets it's input and you have current flowing from the rails. My 1080 has been running for close to a year of shunt modded OC this way.
    I modded all 3 shunts, max power reported is ~20W at 2050Mhz in TimeSpy.

    I don't remember whether the gpu core voltage share the same rail as memory, since locking voltage and running an OC on vram often just crashes my card. So I just let it have at the 1.063v and push the OC on both fronts.
     
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    Memory and core will be different rails.
     
  18. jc_denton

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    Interesting bug then it seems.
     
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    Separate input voltages and phases so anything suggesting they are linked would be off.
     
  20. jc_denton

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    Might be driver issue then perhaps. But glad that VC gives plenty of room with the 1.063v, so it's not a real issue.
     
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    You can probably also pencil mod the video ram voltage, it's usually just a resistor network fixed value rather than software adjustable.
     
  22. jc_denton

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    I do have some silver lacquer, however I can do +1000 on this card post power mod, and not artifact. Which is why I think this must be a driver issue. I tested whether there might be some ECC kicking in. So I ran a locked core/volt frequency and increased memeory in steps of +200/400/600/800/1000Mhz. There was a score increase each step up.
    [​IMG]
     
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  23. Z3us_PL

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    what are the exact dimensions of the 2080 core?
     
  24. jc_denton

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    I could only find the mm^2 size, perhaps this might be helpful instead.
    https://imgur.com/r/nvidia/7cYrbEl
     
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  25. Meaker@Sager

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    Knowing one dimension and the square area gets you there :)
     
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    I think Steve from GN also did measure the die on some of the 2080 cards, just can't recall what video that was.
     
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    I know he has, but I could not find a 2080 example.
     
  28. jc_denton

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    Whats the word on 2080S mxm, or are NDA's not lifted yet.
     
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    I've not seen the info myself (not overly interested) but I cant imagine the PCB being different.
     
  30. jc_denton

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    I expect same pcb, was just curious about the pricing.
     
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    You can see the new tiering structure in the previews as far as that goes.
     
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    I thought about it for a second, until I realized I don't want to cut into the vapor chamber.
     
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    (Talking about the P775TM1-G)

    I am having difficulties with this working right.. Windows sees it, but only is able to use 64GB, and the BIOS only admits to 64GB. Is Eurocom using a different Thunderbolt port chip that is letting this work when it is turned off? or is there a deeper hardware issue at play here? the i9-9900K is fine with that much ram, and all slots can see and use 32GB sticks.. This really feels like a software limit, but I know appearances aren't always accurate.
     
  34. jc_denton

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    You can try turning off the TB port and see. AFAIK only Prema bios has "real" 128gb support.
     
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    Yea, I tried that, it didn't change the behavior. Both in BIOS and in the Sys Manager.
     
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    Did Eurocom specify that it supports 128gb?
     
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    I can't reach 10k in Time Spy graphics on rtx 2080 (Clevo). I lock (in Afterburner) core clock at 1800Mhz at 0.825 mV, and it starts fluctuate at some moments of the test, because "power" appears. It gives ~9960 gpu score in time Spy. What should I do to get a better result?
     
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    Try slightly more voltage or lowering the ambient air if possible.
     
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    I have been informed that the only BIOS that unlocks that ability is the Prema BIOS, and in order to do so , there is a number of other features that are 'broken' in order to do it. Also, boot times are extraordinarily long, so we are not going to be using or offering the 128GB support. It's just too troublesome.
     
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    Who needs vapor in a vapor chamber anyway :p
     
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    If I accidentally dremel into the vapor chamber, the only water that you'll see, will be my man tears.
     
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    Yup, that's what I was looking at. Unfortunately, that won't cut it for the customer.. they're not going to be happy.
     
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    Hi there! Can one of you owners confirm whether or not the display connector on thr motherboard is the same one in my PB50EF-G? I'm looking for a 4K 120hz capable display cable and this reseller I've found only has them for the P750, P775 and P870.
    20200415_165508.jpg
     
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    Just put the tears into the chamber and seal it up again :p
     
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    hahaha.

    I think P870 uses an 40 pin eDP cable. @Meaker@Sager
     
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    Yes it does IIRC.
     
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    Im talking about the connector on the motherboard side. Is that also 40 pins?
     
  50. Meaker@Sager

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    Image search this cable:

    6-43-P8701-020-1N

    And you will see the connector.
     
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