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There is no such thing as a notebook 600W single brick AFAIK.

 

Yes, I know. "Officially" there isn't a 780W adapter either

 

Except that 780W unit was designed for these machines, the number of devices using beyond 330W currently selling can be counted on one hand. So you will pay for that design cost per unit.

Throwing out the official tag I don't know of any portable 600W 19V bricks you could mod which I was guessing is what you were thinking of.

 

I may do alot of stuff I shouldn't with my laptops. But the Psu is one of the few things I do not mess around with lol. The 780 works perfect. That's for sure one thing I don't worry about lol

 

With the beefier units you do have to give them respect when opening up in regards to discharging and handling with care. It's not a "my first electronics" task to really take on. If you know what you are doing there are some things you can do, someone skilled could create their own housing for the PCBs and have Y cables inside for instance. It would take a lot of skill to manufacture something safe, durable and aesthetically pleasing however.

In my modding days I just did a decent job of soldering a new cable on a device with the right output to ensure a clean and good looking product.

 

I don't wish to ruin anyone's business, since Eurocom and HID at least had the balls to offer this custom made power brick since Clevo was just lazy to do it.
To keep it short, the core of the mentioned power brick can be purchased at any major electrical store. There are 600W, 780W, 1000W variants.
Eurocom pimped it a little by adding an extra LCD screen (which is also available at any major electrical store)and putting it in a new metal housing.

Some work needs to be done on the pcb ofc, however the biggest problem is, that these units have not been designed to be used with laptops. In order to "fix" this the microcontroller on the board has to be reprogrammed.

The components of a 780W power brick costs about $240.
So what's the extra $235 for?
1) the skills to build one
2) the skills to reprogram the microcontroller
3) the time the R&D took to find the perfect code for the microcontroller and the outside look
4) warranty support

If I would go down this road, my 600W power brick would be custom made from the similar components the Eurocom brick is made of. It would not look the same and I would skip the LCD screen (from the review I saw the microcontroller was not perfect anyway on that 780W Eurocom test unit and did not display correct power output) but it would function the same.

I am not saying that everyone should rush to the store and build a power brick at home, in matter of fact I would not suggest to do this unless you know how to modify the PCB of the core unit and how to reprogram the microcontroller.
Unless you are a skilled engineer, don't do it, you may damage your laptop or even worse, yourself !

tl;Dr: if you know how, you can build that 780W power brick for half the price, but if you dont know how, just pay the full price, it is much safer...

 

You say too lazy but having regulatory approved supplies from proven suppliers with no moving parts an a cost advantage are huge pluses.

 

Anyone know an average package temp for the CPU slot?

 

Average under what conditions?

 

I'd say gaming or benching lol.

 

I got p870km1 with 7700k OC 4.7 and 1080 SLI (OVERCLOCKED) I also have the 780W power supply from Eurocom. While playing CRYSIS 3 I have seen my system Peaking little over 500 Watts but usually stays around 420-480W.
Keep in mind this is only on crysis (seems to be a pretty heavy game) Most games like Battlefield 1 only use about 330-380watts with the same clocks.

The 8700k probably will pull about the same or maybe a bit more than 7700k but this gives you a rough Idea

 

CFL 8 cores.. 2nd half of 2018 looks like 10nm+ ICL wont be any time soon. this 8 core CFL better fit in the same socket and be compatible!

 

if the 8 cores work in these... my penis can only get so erect

 

Thank you!
In short, a 600W power brick is more than enough

 

yeah I think going over 500w is only in extreme scenarios. 600 watts seems plenty. My system is also maxed out 3x pcie ssds and 2x 2.5 ssds also all 4 ram slots are filled with ram sticks. So average system will probably not go over 500w.

 

If you purchase from a Prema Partner you should get the 780W. Other firmware limits the system to roughly 500W, so no need for it then unless of course you prefer the size.

 

Got some filament in that will resist the heat of the socket for the die guard. So I'll be printing that mofo off this afternoon. And will see how well it works !!

 

First I would like to Thank @Phoenix for all the time he spent setting up my new laptop.
Now, the laptop wont boot the raid volume and gives me an error message stating my USB keyboard is not connected.
I dont have a USB keyboard. Can anyone help here? @Phoenix , @Donald@HIDevolution

 

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That's a tricky balance I guess, how hard is it to find filament that will be temperature resistant when set?

 

When did this start happening? What was the last thing you did before it stopped booting? What is the error message you are getting while booting up?

Could you have accidentally changed the boot mode form RAID to AHCI?

 

It's not to terrible, I was looking for a mixed filament that contained carbon fiber so it would be a bit more structuredly capable.
So I have printed off 2 different versions, made of 2 different filaments. Petg and ABS. Both of those require the extruder of the printer to be at 240c for good flow. So at that temp range, I'm thinking we should be ok with the print withstanding the temp of the socket and heatsink lol.

 

Can anyone give me their temps for their 1070's in sli at max load with the vapor chamber cooler, Also does anyone know the best ram kit currently available, i can only find 2666mhz ddr4 modules, But desktops have them going up to 5ghz and despite what people want you to believe ram does not need cooling rofl

 

There's 3200mhz SODIMM's floating around. Saw someone here have them. I think Mr Fox did. But I saw some people have problems with timings.

*Edit*
Here you go.

https://www.amazon.com/G-Skill-3200...id=1522691938&sr=8-1&keywords=3200+mhz+sodimm

Can also buy if you're made of money:

https://www.amazon.com/G-SKILL-Ripj...ie=UTF8&qid=1522693255&sr=8-5&keywords=sodimm

can't find any 16 GB single sticks of 3200. Maybe call G-sklll on phone and ask if they exist. Pretty sure they do, since 16 GB 3000 mhz sticks do.

hope you have a money tree.
Anyone have a money tree for me?
@Papusan
@Mr. Fox
@Prema

 

If you really need that much ram then you should stick to a slower speed since in productivity 3000mhz pretty much nets you the biggest gains. Faster speeds with more chips puts more stress on the IMC.

 

These are LGA chips, not binned BGA filth!!
They can handle 4000 mhz. The IMC is inside the chip.....

 

They can handle 4000Mhz+ with 2 sticks in a motherboard that can do an ideal trace routing, has more pins and fits 2 slots only.

Also yes the IMC inside the chip but it's and outward facing bus

 

Fair enough. I don't have my HDET desktop or 8 core CFL CPU yet (intel, hurry up, that new Ryzen is looking really good). And Brother Papusan said a 7940X is better than 7920X. But I also don't want a skylake die with spectre and meltdown either. But when I do, I want something good. The 8 core Clevo LGA Premamodded book for that upcoming chip will be the mobile laptop. I want my desktop to be even faster.

 

I have no insider info on Ryzen but if the +5-10% frequency (with a little bit of IPC to get that 10% performance increase) is there then it should do well.

 

those 3200mhz 8GB sticks seem to be ok value from where i'm standing and are at the point where any faster and the performance gains are negligable, Anyone know if we can do 3200mhz without a drama? I only use on average 18-22GB ram so 32gb (4 sticks) will do just fine for me

I assume our trace routing isn't entirely ideal given how little room they have to work with to get all this hardware crammed into a tiny area

 

That and the slot with tighter pins does not help either.

 

A quick question for someone.

I'm running my laptop with only one power brick, could this cause any problems for my laptop?

I'm not using anything demanding atm.

 

I think someone said it would just start using the battery to compensate when you go over the limit of what one brick can do. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, please.

 

So its means P870TM1 with 1080 need big power brick


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A single 1080 should be fine but SLI needs 2 bricks or the Eurocom 780w unit. Pretty sure someone said that if the system uses more wattage than what the brick can give it will use the battery as needed to provide enough power.

 

A single 330W is fine if you just have one GPU. The Clevo laptops don't use the battery to compensate, you only see that on some BGA models from other manufacturers.

Since @Dc_79 has 2x nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 in SLi, using only one 330W AC Adapter could indeed cause issues depending on what is being done. It is not a good idea to only use one, even if you think you are only doing light duty things.

 

If I am having to run one 330 I just disable SLI, and disable the 2nd GPU from device manager. But I normally have my 700watt with me at all time.

 

there anyway to force a pstate on these pascal GPU? i use .bat file that i did on older GPU seems fine but on these new GPU it'll just crash system.

 

Have you tried Nvidia inspector?

 

What's the difference between the TM and TM1, apart from the price hike on the TM1?

 

Thanks, I have gone back to using both.

 

TM = 1x or 2x nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
TM1 =1x or 2x nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080

 

Along with the right heatsinks and power adapters but yes nothing different even down to the motherboard.

 

I'll take whichever can do a single 1080 but cheaper

 

I got into an argument with someone because they kept going on how the 4099 aud apple macbook pro (15inch) is a better machine than the 4599 AUD clevo in my sig, Like... i'm pretty sure we have about 15x the gpu power compared to the throttlebook pro, and atleast 2x cpu power overall

 

LOL! Have them install Boot Camp, and run some benchmarks so you can compare.

 

Got my laptop from HIDevolution in a couple days ago and seem to have everything set up how I like. Purchased an 8700k + 1080 w/ VaporChamber. Other than that it was pretty much bare bones with no RAM or storage installed as I already had my own storage and I bought 16GB of GSkill 3000Mhz RAM.


RAM took a little playing with but have it at 2946Mhz. CPU is stable at 4.8Ghz with a -100mv offset. Temps still seem high though as it hits mid 80s under Aida. Any recommendations for that?

My only other two issues are the keyboard backlight not staying on permanently and my portable monitor isn't recognized when I plug it in to the USB-C port but using the type A works fine. Any advice on either of these?

 

when you go into the clevo control center and then click on DEVICE, you will see an option to toggle off the backlight timer

 

Thanks! Feel a bit stupid now. I definitely saw that setting but it never fully registered in my brain. Been a long last couple of days.

 

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