2016/17 ATIV Book 9 with Kaby Lake COMING SOON: 13.3" and 15.0" versions

Anyone else noticing any jumping with the touchpad when you try to soft tap on a link or item?

 

I'm still exploring apps. I hardly ever use apps on my cellphone. So, this is something I have to get used to.

I do notice it. The cursor does jump whenever I make a soft tap.


Also, do you guys use Battery Life Extender + in Samsung settings when you plug in the AC Adapter when the computer is turned on? Does it really simulate the effect of taking off the physical battery like in old laptops, therefore not causing any battery wear?

 

It was my understanding the Battery Life Extender only limits the laptop's ability to charge the battery to 80% capacity. Apparently in the long run this improves the lifespan of the battery. As far as I know, modern laptops are made so that once your battery is charged to 100% capacity, the electronics switch over so that the battery isn't being used while the charger is plugged in. The battery only receives enough power to keep it fully charged while it is in an almost sleep-like state.

As for the Battery Life Extender feature, I've never used it because it never made sense to me to sacrifice 20% battery life up front to gain an undetermined amount of battery life three years down the line when I might be looking to replace the laptop anyways. Either way I would be losing battery life, it's just a matter of when.

 

I would like to get the Notebook 9 with a 512GB SSD.
http://www.samsung.com/hk/pc/notebook-9-always-np900x5n-x04/
A Hong Kong site offers the NP900X5N-X04HK for 12,901 $HK (=1,657 $US)
http://www.ohoyeah.com/product/np900x5n-x04hk
EDIT: (ohoyeah is a magazine and not a computer retailer .... very dubious... )
Does anyone have any idea when it will be available through proper retail channels?

 

I assume you're in the US? Surely you'd be better off getting the 16/256GB US model and upgrading yourself. Cost will be the same or less and you will have a valid warranty (as long as you replace the original SSD prior to service).

 

I too would be interested if anyone has purchased a Hong Kong model. In particular, is the charger a UK plug type. I wonder if I can purchase a charger alone from Hong Kong - can't find anything online....

Will be receiving my US 13 inch model tonight. At last. Excited!

 

I recently picked up both the NP900X3M and NP900X5M, and I love them both, especially the 5M speed with the NVME running on the PCI bus. The only problem is storage at 256, so I am thinking of upgrading the 5M to a Sammy 960 EVO M.2 1TB. I don't anticipate any problems but am curious if anyone has thoughts on the matter, or better yet, has tried a similar upgrade. Thx.

 

I would also be interested.
It would be great to have step-by-step instructions on how to do it.

 

I would check to see if there is still the option to create a bootable USB from Samsung Recovery. Otherwise there are numerous cloning utilities such as Macrium, Clonezilla, Acronis. Personally, I would just get the W10 iso and do a clean install after downloading the drivers because I like to configure the partitions.

 

Thanks. I was also thinking of a clean install on the new drive. I have already used Samsung Recovery to provide the setup files.

 

Hey guys! I am following this thread since I'm in the market for a laptop with dedicated graphics, ssd, a nice screen and thunderbolt 3 connection.

I like very much this Samsung, which is priced now around 1399$ new
(I honestly feel like it's a hp spectre 360 15" without touch and with a macbook pro aesthetics - I don't dislike it at all!).
But for about the same price you can get a certified refurbished xps 15 i5 - 256GB with a 4k display (Dell outlet website).

Now, portability isn't a big deal for me but build quality/loudness/cooling are. I heard many conflicting opinions on the xps 15 build quality and noise, not much about the samsung (also because I believe number of buyers/feedback don't compare).
Don't necessarily need the computing power of the Dell, I believe the Samsung can deliver all I need - just trying to find the best compromise here. Can anyone comment on this based on experience with the two?

P.S. the thunderbolt 3 on the Samsung is two lanes? Or it's like in the xps 15 which in the end works half speed?

Thanks again guys!!

 

I have bought Toshiba, Dell, Sony, Thinkpad and Samsung laptops. I found the Samsung to be the most reliable and trouble free by far!
Check out the forums before you buy.

 

Hey thanks for sharing!

What makes me wonder are all the comments on the "cheap feel" of this notebook 9, and the ease which it gets scratched. I'm very careful with my stuff, but I don't feel comfortable with paying $1400 and then have the fell of something cheap. Might sound trivial to many here but I'm using it mainly for typing and home recording, besides a good processor I really don't require high computing power.

Although I was kinda a notebook enthusiast some time ago (when I was gaming with it during university), now I want a machine which feels solid and delivers the goods of recent R&D in terms of screen and speed. In these terms I was thinking on moving to apple (MBP 13 - 2016, I have no problems with adaptors), but even refurbished+discount (due to my job) I'd bite my lip since the hardware improvements are non existing compared to the 2015 model, although build quality is premium.

I found the answer regarding the thunderbolt 3 on the samsung: it is an actual full speed thunderbolt 3.

 

@Helen Chevy How did your SSD drive upgrade go?
Could you share the steps?

 

Got the sticks a little on the late side, but have them now (an NVME for the 15" and a SATA III for the 13.3) - my plan this weekend is to save the setup files to a thumb, install the new stick (keeping the existing one for backup), install W10 Pro, and then the setup files from the thumb. Think it will work?

I had originally planned to use the Samsung clone utiltity to copy the drive over to the new stick but I do not have anything that will accept the new stick (USB>NVME) as a target drive while I copy. I do have something for the SATA, so maybe I will try that one first.

 

People have recommended using Macrium Reflect (I've not used that software) to make a backup image on an external drive and then restoring that image onto the new SSD.

The one possible headache is finding the right NVMe drivers and the risk that the new SSD doesn't play well with the driver already installed.

John

 

asus vivobook S is out. probably this will replace my samsung np900x5l, because it has a matte 15,6" screen with a total weight of 1.5kg.
as a bonus, with a nvidia 940mx and a seperate 2,5" slot! starting with 499$..
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/asus-vivobook-2017-s15-s510.805159/

 

Anyone else having problems with their laptop waking from sleep on opening the lid, but then immediately going back to sleep (new Notebook 9, 13 inch)?

Also - anyone else noticed the screen seems to get scratched by the keys?

 

Can anyone confirm the weight of the 15 and 15 Ext version? I see one seems to be 2.17 lb and the other one 2.73 lb, but i don't understand why such difference, it's only because the dedicated Geforce?
Besides that, is there any other difference? Both have HDMI, MicroSD and headphone/mic ports?
Thanks in advance,

 

Look carefully at the battery capacity. There was reportedly a model with a very small battery, but I do not see it on the US site now. Just an 8GB without nvidia and 16GB with. Then there is the slightly heavier Pro 15 with AMD and touch.

 

Can I use a decent USB-C charger to charge mine? it's NP900X5N-X01US. I'm thinking about an Anker 5 port USB with USB-C maybe? the A/C charger is not that big I guess, always trying to save weight and space.

my second unit has been working well, there was a BIOS update recently.

 

In the Notebookcheck review the NP900X5N-X01 outperforms the Dell XPS 15 in most benchmarks:
PCMark 8 Work Score Accelerated v2 4928
PCMARK 8 Creative Accelerated v2 4769
PCMark8 Home accelerated = 3852

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Samsu...FHD-GeForce-940MX-Laptop-Review.226100.0.html

On the negative side, the review criticizes the "glossy" screen and the PWM (Pulse-Width Modulation) flickering. Could the current owners comment on that?

 

I haven't noticed PWM. maybe some are more sensitive?

glossy screen isn't too bad, i've seen worse. if it had 2k screen it would be epic. 16:9 1080 has to go eventually. i would plug it into a 2k monitor on a long stay.

 

Thank you!
Questions to all NP900X5N-X01 owners:
1) How satisfied are you with the Notebook 9?
2) Has anyone successfully upgraded the SSD? If so, could you provide a short outline of the steps.

 

mine works well. I didn't need a touch screen really. it's light and fast. if I want to use a 2k monitor in the future it should support.

I'll probably put a larger SSD at some point. should not be hard to do, could use Macrium, Easeus or Aomei.

 

do you think one could cram the new large 66wh battery into the 2016 model?
there seems to be space..

 

I would first compare the thickness of the two batteries. That extra capacity means extra volume and if the length and width aren't much different then the thickness will be. Then there's the matter of whether the battery connector is the same including the configuration of the connections.

John

 

i would try, if somebody would send me the battery

the width and length seem to be bigger, but there is some space left in the old model (asking myself why they didnt fill ist with a larger battery).
and the thickness is only 1mm difference between the models, could match..

if someone opens his, would be nice if he could measure the dimensions and post it here.

 

NEWS: Samsung Notebook 9 with 8th generation Intel Core Processor announced for September 2017.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...n-intel-core-processor-september-2017.808262/

 

anyone can read this and knows the weight of the new
http://www.mi.com/mibookpro/

 

has anyone tried a USB-C charger for 15" model?

https://www.anker.com/products/variant/PowerPort+-5-Ports-USB-C-/A2053111

 

2 new model numbers showed up today in the Samsung Update Database:
Samsung NP900X5N-L02US and
Samsung NP900X5N-L03US
Could it be a new Notebook 9 with the Intel 8th Generation chip?

 

has anyone upgraded the ssd in theirs? I may replace with larger nvme ssd.

 

Yes, I just got the NP900X5T and upgraded it with a 1TB Samsung 960 Pro.

Benchmarks:
PCMark 7: 6608 (40% faster than my i7-4500U Ativ 9 NP900X4C)
PCMark 8 Work Accelerated: 5164 (with 256GB SSD) --> 5260 (with 1 TB SSD) (40% faster than ATIV 9)
PCMark 8 Home accelerated 3.0: 3991 (initial test) 3722 (after upgrading to 1 TB SSD) (no idea why 9% lower)
Geekbench 3 (32-bit tryout mode!!!! ): 3983 / 13469
Geekbench 4: 23098 OpenCL Score UHD Graphics
Geekbench 4: 46502 OpenCL Score GeForceMX150

Note: Since there are no PCIE NVME SSD caddies available, I had to do a complete fresh Windows 10 install by downloading the Windows 10 ISO file from Microsoft and the Samsung Driver installation utility from Samsung.
Unfortunately I lost the Samsung Recovery Partition in the process. (I guess I will just have to use Windows Recovery?)
Asides from that, the upgrade was smooth.

Comments: The best computer I ever owned!!!

 

Samsung 960 Pro NVME SSD M.2 with NP900X5T:

 

mine is 7th gen NP900X5N-X01US, hopefully, will work fine. I usually use Macrium Reflect and make an image to external drive, then restore to the new drive. unless a desktop with extra SATA ports, then clone is possible.

1tb 960 pro. that is serious! i would probably go 500g 960 evo

 

I tried Macrium Reflect and made an image to an external USB drive.
I also made a Macrium Reflect boot-up USB stick with Windows PE (Portable Edition).
But I couldn't figure out how to restore the image back from the USB hard drive to the new SSD.
Please make notes and share them with us. I would be very useful.

 

My wife just got a new Samsung Notebook 9 Pro 13.3, the latest with the 8th generation Core I7. The problem it seems is the keyboard. While the backlighting on the keys work fine, the tiny status light on the key for CAPS Lock does not turn on or off. The Fn Lock indicator however does work. On my ATIV Book 9 Plus the CAPS Lock indicator on the key does work. I have temporarily installed TrayStatus for now. Did Samsung not include this functionality or is there a problem with this Notebook 9 Pro? Thank you.

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Sent the laptop in for service to Samsung, mentioned the missing CAPSLock light and on screen indicator. After receiving it back, they replaced the whole keyboard but the original problem was never fixed. My wife is pissed and has sent it back to them again. She wants a new laptop as it is still under warranty. Hopefully someone actually tests it this time.

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And finally, everything works as it should. Samsung ended up replacing the motherboard.

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anyone has win 7 running on this?
i cannot get the brightness FN keys to work..

 

I realize this is an old post, but I'm reading through this entire thread with a view to upgrading my existing Samsung NP930X5J to the latest and greatest 15"+ model. I'm surprised to read that you were able to replace an NMVe SSD with a SATA SSD ... are they interchangeable? I was told the NVMe (which is PCIe?) was a much higher 'spec' and had different circuitry. Is it such that you can downgrade from NMVe to Sata, but not up from SATA to NMVe?

 

The Precision specifically has a combo port on the motherboard that is compatible with both (if I recall correctly). This is definitely not typical.

 

I definitely did that swap. Dell probably designed the board to support both options as, at the time, there was a big price differential between the two types of SSD. By supporting both interfaces (it's the same connector) purchasers could choose their preferred balance between price, capacity and performance (Dell applied the same approach on many other notebooks). For notebooks from other manufacturers the best check would be the configurations available to purchase. However, with NVMe SSDs now very affordable (I'm now using an Intel 660p) the need to consider swapping NVMe to SATA is eliminated but doing an upgrade in the other direction will need the manufacturer to have provided support for the faster SSDs.

John

 

I was confused; I thought you'd done that upgrade on the Samsung. Will the Samsung Notebook 9 take SATA or NVME SSD?

Even if the price differential is gone, doesn't the NVMe consume a lot more power than the SATA - or has that changed too? I've got a 1 TB Sata SSD in my Ativ book 9 (NP930X5J) and it seems perfectly adequate so I'm concerned about generating more heat / using more power.

 

OK, I've just read all 40 pages in this thread, and several offshoots. Would this thread be the best one to discuss the latest Samsung 15" thin notebooks, as available mid 2019?

I have two identical NP930X5J Samsung 15.6" laptops (2014 models), each upgraded with a 1TB 2nd SSD, and I have to say they are the best laptops I've ever owned. But I have itchy fingers and money to spend, and I'd like to have USB-C charging, 16 GB RAM and longer battery life, so ... what's the latest and greatest out there? I've seen references to all the following in this thread (or it's offshoots):
NP900X5L - xx? gen Intel i7, 256 SSD, 15" FHD integrated display, 8 GB Ram, 2.9 lb, USB-C
NP900X5N - 8th gen Intel i7, rest as above?
NP900X5M - 8th gen intel i7, rest as above? White only?
NP900X5T - 8th gen intel i7, dedicated graphics, available on amazon - https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-NP900X5T-X01US-Notebook-Traditional-Laptop/dp/B078G1BG1L/ref=sr_1_1
NP940X5N - 8th gen intel i7, touch-screen+Pen, 16 GB, dedicated graphics, available at Best Buy - https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsun...te-drive-titan-silver/6111205.p?skuId=6111205
NP900X5U - 8th gen intel i7 ...

And I see Huberth bought an NP900X5T in Feb 2018 - from this thread - http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...n-intel-core-processor-september-2017.808262/

Soooo ... Do ALL the above sport the relatively flimsy keyboard? I love typing on my NP930X5J and would hate to see a poorer keyboard. I'm excited to see they still offer FHD (I see no purpose in higher res on a laptop screen), and at least some non-touch options.

I bought the second NP930X5J as a hedge, in case the future direction was not a direction I wanted to go in (poorer keyboard, too high resolution, so I would have a working computer for a long time.

But I would like to know what's the latest out there ...

 

Sorry for confusing you. I had to take my business elsewhere after Samsung withdrew from the European notebook market. There are two ways to discover if a Samsung notebook supports both types of SSD: (i) look through sales listings to see if Samsung sold the notebook with both types of SSD; and (ii) find / install an NVMe SSD and see if the notebook recognises it. The BIOS setup may also provide clues.

NVMe SSDs tend to have higher peak power consumption than SATA SSDs due to the higher data transfer speeds but this means that the task is completed quicker and performance per Watt is lower. Idle power consumption also tends to be lower (perhaps only on newer computers) due to the introduction of improved power saving modes.

John

 

So Huberth - as I commented above, I see you bought an NP900X5T in Feb 2018 - from this thread - http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...n-intel-core-processor-september-2017.808262/ ... how do you like it?

I went to Best Buy today to see what they had; they only had the 13" version of the NP940X5N, and I tried the keyboard - I will say It's just tolerable, so still in the game. I'd prefer integrated graphics, but other than that, the model you got on Amazon seems pretty cool - link here again -
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-NP900X5T-X01US-Notebook-Traditional-Laptop/dp/B078G1BG1L/ref=sr_1_1 . I'd have to immediately upgrade to a 1- or 2 TB SSD, and I don't need dedicated graphics card, but it may be the closest thing available to what I need. Also, Huberth, you were going to replace the SSD and were canvassing for instructions. Did you ever proceed? Thanks!

 

And today, at my local Costco (Concord, CA), they had the 'gram' on display - 17" version! The screen is incredibly shiny, and the whole thing does look rather fragile; the screen bends very easily. Keyboard seemed tolerable - just. Didn't get a chance to hear the sound. It was amazingly light! They also had a Dell XPS. It was almost all great, except, two-finger scrolling (two finger flick up/down on the trackpad to scroll a page) was awful, and accompanied by mouse pointer flicker/jumping. It was so bad I have to suspect some kind of defect or misconfiguration. And they had a few Lenovo's; didn't note the model numbers, but one had a super (typical Lenovo) keyboard, way better than any of the other models on display EXCEPT - they are back to putting the 'Fn' key in the lower left corner, with the 'Ctrl' key to its right - different from any other keyboard on earth and back to how IBM / Thinkpads did it 'way back'. They can't seem to make up their minds about whether to go with the flow on this one or do their own thing. I personally can't use a keyboard that transposes those two keys. So I'm still hoping to get my hands on an actual Samsung notebook 9 15" ...