Introducing The 2013 Series 7 Chronos with AMD HD8870M!

This doesn't mean that these drivers don't exist, they are already selling the 17" model so it's fairly sure that it has GPU driver on board...

 

I do not know if this site is reliable, but a user has published the performance of Chronos (8870M) for many games (Crysis 3, Battlefield 3, GTA 4, Modern Warfare 3) with the setting details:

PC Core i7-3635QM 4-Core 2.4GHz Radeon HD 8870M 6GB gaming performance - Soundwave

 

Driver issue it's just a speculation!

 

Here you go :

 

The only thing with the A J Williams videos is he calls it the Ultra when the Ultra is the ultrabook series 5 which is slimmer and doesn't have as good of GPU.

 

It is on notebookcheck well described that while they did see throttle with more CPU intensive test like furmark also it was short and recovered immediately.

But, let me go forward and say more, in games CPU throttling isn't an issue if a game is more GPU-dependent (like crysis) so a throttling in the CPU is not noticeable in the performance. However, in the 8870m I think what we see is a severe GPU throttling and not CPU because this game is also more GPU than CPU dependent.

In terms of gaming, possibly the UX51VZ with a GT650m gives a similar performance to the Samsung with a 8870m because its GPU doesn't throttle thanks to a more efficient cooling design.

 

Well kinda... its on sale but not available for shipping or in store pickup.

 

I have seen the logs of Asus U500VZ/UX51VZ that some owner has passed to me, and Crysis2 it's not the only game where it has CPU throttling.

 

So this 8870M is mainly for gaming? I'm assuming that's why some are waiting?

 

And was it a stable throttling or did it throttle only for few seconds? I remember that in all the HWinfo logs I saw it stayed at 2,1 GHz (when not with turbo boost). 2.1 GHz is nominal frequency, it's not throttling

 

Gaming on a lightweight and thin 15.6" laptop. Yes.

 

Unfortunately for now we can say nothing about Samsung, because there is any owner of 8870m and the owners of 8770 model were limited to performing 3Dmark test.
Maybe Samsung could be a disaster with both CPU and GPU throttling, but until some power user doesn't test it we can say anything, in any case Notebokcheck will soon provide a review of 770Z7E that is close enough to 15" model to say something even on it.

 

Yes the 8870's first purpose is as a higher end gaming GPU, there is also alot of processing power there that certain applications (very few) could use for number crunching, rendering animation, etc.

 

True. However, if the 17" throttles because of temperatures (still hope that it's not the case) then there aren't many chances that the 15" with a smaller chassis will do any better

 

For 3612QM:
2,1GHz it's not throttling!!!
1.2GHz instead it's throttling!!!
As I said in previous post CPU throttled @1.2GHz in several games, so it has throttling!!!
This OT for me is ended, if you like Asus just buy it.

 

@ previous question from someone:
There is a Series 7 ultra: 730U3E

 

So the 8870m performs worse than the 660m on nearly every tested game? I am dissapointed. I was expecting it to be between 660m and 670m.

I really hope these low performance numbers are not because of throttling due to heat.

 

Indeed. However, as a mentioned days ago when someone posted the results on the model with the 8770m suggesting throttling issues, I think the same is bound to happen with the 8870m model and these results just kind of confirm it. We shall have more data soon.

Oh, and I agree with you regarding this not being driver issues. I forgot that mobile drivers are custom made for each brand, right?. If so, that means they are shipped with the laptop already and have been tested.

 

Yep but this is 17 inch not 15. Cooling should be better !

 

Chassis 15" of 17" what does it matter?
When before they contains the same component could be meaningful, but now 15" has not ODD so I don't see why a 17" could be more efficient than a 15" without ODD.
It's very likely that they have same motherboard and same cooling system.

 

Chill dude, we're just comparing this chronos to its only real competitor in the Windows world. There are many users here who are still deciding which of the two alternatives they should buy, so keep your anger for something else please. You are the only user in notebookreview complaining about UX51 throttling during real usage (without owning one) so forgive me if it sounds at least weird to me

 

I'm starting to hate this forum. It's turned into nothing but speculation and doubt for a computer that we honestly know nothing about. All we know is that there is only one version out in the world now, and we have no idea what other versions are coming out.

You guys keep speaking of a 17" version that has NEVER been confirmed and is doubtful that it's even coming out. I do not want, nor have I ever wanted or even ever considered getting a 17 inch laptop. Nobody wants that sh*t. We all came here for the 15 inch model with the 8870m, like the announced at CES and like EVERY tech news website is reporting about. STOP speculating about the fact that an unannounced and unspeaken of 17" model will solve all of your "throttling" problems that have also NEVER been confirmed. This is all so pathetic.

The 15" model is what we will get in time, with the 8870m. I think all of you just need to exercise some damn patience and chill out for a while.

The fact that you guys are freaking out about these benchmarks is pathetic. There is about a 5% chance they are real. Do you really think the 8870m would perform at the same level as the 650m? No...these are far from official. They are speculation and they are scaring you all, and it's truly pathetic.

Seriously, just calm down and leave this forum for a while. I am going to do the same. Sitting on here all day and worrying and doubting about this laptop because of what all these other people post is getting you nowhere, and it certainly isn't going to bring you a confirmation of the 15" 8870m model. When that model comes out, you'll know about through media sites.

For now, all of you, seriously chill the hell out.

 

If you post a question and after you don't read the answer you are just trolling or what?
Why I have to repeat my answer 2 time before you understand something.
You don't want believe me? I don't care, it's your business not my.

 

Actually, I have been holding off from getting the Asus UX51VZ and keep following the threads for both laptops on this forum which have been quite informative and helpful. I am very much looking forward to these comparisons to make an informed decision. So far, Asus UX51VZ for $1500 (non touch) is a better choice if you add on top of a similar performance 2 SSD in RAID0 instead a 8870m with 1TB HDD at 5400rpm at a similar price.

 

Not confirmed? This laptop has been available for order for a few days on both amazon.de and amazon.fr.

Here you go: http://www.amazon.fr/gp/aw/d/B00B1RZ76S/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1361729249&sr=8-1&pi=SL75
(Sory for the mobile link)

4 in stock.

So please do not call us pathetic for believing notebookcheck. Chances are around 100% these numbers are real.

 

Notebookcheck is always pretty accurate, it's not just speculation...

I asked you if it was a stable throttling or only for few seconds, which you didn't say before. The thing about 1.2 and 2.1 GHz was in the same post and just to be sure we were speaking of the same thing. But ok, I'm not carry on the comparison, nevermind.

 

For me 15 inch is to small to do serious work on it.
I like it the relaxed way, so no, 17 isn't crap

The need for a notebook turned some people into agressive beasts, damn you Samsung what have you done !

 

Still not confirmed at al. For all we know that info is wrong. I find it hard to believe that at CES Samsung touts this new chassis and thinner design and updated looks with the 15 inch Chronos and 13 inch Ultra, and then goes and uses the same old hideous, thick, seam-filled, bad build quality 17 inch chassis.

I literally hate the way the old Chronos looked. That is why I am ONLY considering this version. The old one was built like crap, flexed all over the place, plastic all over the place, seams all over the place. Thick as hell. I wouldn't even consider that ugly old thing.

That's why this new one WITHOUT the optical drive is such a leap forward.

 

This is the link
Ordinateur portable : Samsung Série 7 Chronos NP770Z7E-S01FR Ordinateur portable 17, 3'' (43, 9 cm) Intel Core i7 3635QM 1 To 8192 Mo AMD Radeon 8870M Windows 8: Amazon.fr: Informatique
Other links:
http://www.onyougo.com/samsung-770z7e-s01ch-notebooks_pi1891303
http://www.onyougo.com/samsung-770z7e-s01ch-notebooks_pi1891303


Samsung has not announced 17" because this notebook has nothing of special compared to the competitors, while 13" and 15" models are the more interesting.
The 17" has not touch screen option and very likely has a TN display.
http://pci34.fishingtree.com/nike2/strategy/770Z7E/

 

In all honesty, I see it quite difficult to improve a cooling system reducing the space in the 15".

 

Chill guys!

Let's hope those results are based on immature drivers, or some throttling that can be resolve later.

Btw, here are what everyone is expecting from an 8870M :



3DMark11 results does hit the mark though.

 

Have 15" and 17" the same components?
The answers is negative 15" has not ODD, but no one is saying that 15" has better cooling system than 17", I'm saying that they have the same performance because very likely they have the same motherboard and same cooling system (But it's always just a speculation).
So the performance of 17" will be the same of 15".

 

Started a battery test...50% screen brightness (its actually fine at 40% but testing at 1/2) streaming Serenity over netflix at 10% volume.

 

Obviously these results are made without any throttling due to temps or due to insufficient power supply.

I don't think that there is a driver issue, I don't know what is the engine of Crysis3 that it's a new game (but maybe it uses the same engine of Crysis2) but the performance seems lower than expected even in others games, also the chip of 8870m seems to derive from others AMD chip then the driver should be enough mature.

 

The engine of Crysis 3 is the new CryEngine 3

 

Thank you very much man! Is it in FullHD?

Isn't it the image we saw a month ago coming directly for AMD?

 

So you think notebookcheck is making up numbers? Why would they do that?

And you think amazon is lying, trying to sell laptops that don't exist? I find that extremely hard to believe.

Amazon is not the only site that has a 17" series 7 chronos with an amd 8870m in stock. Some german sites and a dutch one have it too. So they're all lying?

 

Pretty sure it is. Honestly I don't put much faith in any of these graphs. Real world tests are where it's at.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

 

Yes it is..

 

...and it's deceiving if you just take a casual glance - note the y-axis scale. The lower ~40% is truncated to accentuate the difference in performance; it's not as dramatic as the graphic would make it appear to be.

 

On sale online on BestBuy

SAMSUNG COMPUTER 15.6" TouchScreen Laptop 8GB Memory 1TB Hard Drive NP780Z5E-S - Best Buy

 

Well, obviously it will be based on the best results(no throttling, etc), especially for marketing. Everyone knows that.

Whether it's a throttling ONLY issues or not, we will never know until the real review is out.
Anything is just a speculation at the moment.

Yup. Like I said. Expecting.

 

A question to any early adopters:
Given that there are not status LEDs for num and caps lock, do the num and caps lock keys light up when in use?(like the MacBook)

 

kmann1994

Not confirmed 17" Chronos? Are on drugs or released from mental hospital? I don't want to be rude but your last few posts where out of this world. I don't care if you believe or not but please don't post this rubbish.

Sorry if I offended you but I feel offended by your posts and had to respond.

 

Sorry wrong post

 

Someone, anyone, in any country, needs to show us an Amazon link to the 15 inch with the 8870m. When that happens, I believe we can ALL put our worries to rest.

 

OMG...
Germany
Samsung 770Z5E-S01 39,6 cm Notebook titan silber: Amazon.de: Computer & Zubehör

France:
Ordinateur portable : Samsung Série 7 Chronos NP770Z5E-S01FR Ordinateur portable 15, 6" (39, 6 cm) Intel Core i7 3635QM 1 To 8192 Mo AMD Radeon 8870M Windows 8: Amazon.fr: Informatique

 

Seriously? This has been my homepage for the last two weeks:
Ordinateur portable : Samsung Série 7 Chronos NP770Z5E-S01FR Ordinateur portable 15, 6" (39, 6 cm) Intel Core i7 3635QM 1 To 8192 Mo AMD Radeon 8870M Windows 8 : Amazon.fr : Informatique

We already put our worries to rest. We knew the NP770Z5E would come out with an 8870m right from the start.

 

It's confusing me why the screen bezel is not black like it was at CES and like the US 8770m version that's out right now is. If you look at the CES shots you can see the odd difference...

But what also sucks is that these links are nowhere to be found on Amazon US

Also, if you've noticed it says that the date first available on Amazon is January 13th or something, which was right after CES.

 

Also, if you've noticed it says that the date first available on Amazon is January 13th or something, which was right after CES.