Introducing The 2013 Series 7 Chronos with AMD HD8870M!

What is the warranty from PCWorld, one year, two years is it international?

 

I expect it is the standard Samsung UK warranty, which is one year international.

Extended warranties such as this are available.

John

 

Failed on the Crysis 3 hunt - and not going to spend £40 to buy it new for the purposes of a test (even if I do end up playing the game - which I've already played on x-box!). I do have some Steam Credit, can anyone recommend a steam-available game which would accomplish the same results for the various 3d benchmarking tests you want me to do?

 

Why don't you perform a simple stress test is free and it takes only 10 minutes?
If you don't have intention to use the last catalyst beta the performance in Crysis3 could be disappointing.

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damouk could you check this link to see what options are available if any. Thanks.

Extended Warranty Samsung

 

I used batterymon for the battery tests I did earlier in this thread (which should apply to your model as well as the only difference is the 8870 and it wouldn't be used on battery in most instances. In any case if you turn on battery mon... set it to log updates to a files (by default it does it every 10 seconds once you turn it on)... make sure the file is being updated... turn all the timeouts off in power settings and then it will log battery life until the computer shutsdown. Then you can review the log to see how it did.

 

Whatever apps you need to run... run them once, then go into switchable graphics (right click on desktop) and set them to high performance... then they will use the ATI gpu the NEXT time you run them and from then on into the future.

Have you run the 3dmark tests yet or did I miss them? I'm really curious how this compares to the 8770 version gpu.

 

Comes back with nothing found. I think I typed it all in OK - although I think that this is a B2B warranty scheme, so maybe not valid for end-users.

I've just checked the paperwork with mine, and it is a 1 year international warranty, the usual. I think that John Lewis provide a retailers 2 year warranty, but they don't have the same versions of this machine - as far as we can tell, theirs is non-touch.

 

Found italian store that say tomorrow will be available the 770z5e...
Thinking to buy immediately if arrive for real!

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You could do some benchmarks like 3dmark 2013/11/Vantage, unigine heaven, catzilla. All of them are free.
You could also try some F2P games like warface (this will push your system if you can get it installed because it's not out in western europe yet), war thunder, blacklight retribution, apb: reloaded,...

Edit: or dou you want to stress the machine for throttling? Then these games might not be demanding enough. In that case do a stress test like suggested above.

 

Exactly, battery test it's not a priority because it will have the same performance of BestBuy model.
8870m or 8770m are not used in long life battery test.

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I'm interested in 3dmark 06, 3dmark 11, and the new 3dmark (I guess that would be 2013).

 

Also, how is the heat on the 8870 when its used in a game.

 

Planet side 2 is pretty demanding and really fun, and I'd imagine that it'd be pretty CPU heavy. And it's free

 

Fyi, bestbuy now has their version of the chronos listed on their site at a regular price of $1199. So the $1299 - $100 sale was just to grab the early adopters.

 

Makes sense, the 8870m version'll be like $100-$150 more(with same ram, etc)

 

Damouk, it would appear from the image you loaded of the box that the 8870 system comes with Windows 8 (not Pro). A while ago I purchased (from Microsoft website) a Windows 8 Pro upgrade. I am still confused as to whether I am going to be able to use the upgrade to Pro on this system. Has anybody been able to install the Pro upgrade? (Apologies if its been answered earlier, I did look for it). I will be swapping the HDD for an SSD and understand the process (thanks to Alchemist), but am unsure on the Pro upgrade.

 

Thats what I'm afraid of... I have the best buy version now... overall pretty happy with it.... paid $1298 after tax for it... so if the 8870 16gb max model hits amazon for $1300 or less, and there is no tax and free shipping (prime member) then I'll kinda need to jump on it and take this one back. I got mine when they still had a 30 day return policy.

 

It won't be for $1300 or less
The 8gb version will be for around $1300 or $1400
The 16 will be $1500-1700?

 

I bought the extended warranty I linked to above with my X4C and it successfully registered. I just checked the extended warranty database and it says "End date 26.06.2015". So, if that warranty offer is good for the Series 9 then it should be OK for the Series 7.

John

 

an 8gb expandable to 16gb with an 8870 for $1300 is something I would have to consider doing a return and rebuy for, since I spent $1300 after tax.

 

Can you tell us what store it is please?

 

What's the store?

 

Notebookcheck says:
Radeon HD 8870M 640@725MHz
Radeon HD 8850M 640@575 - 725MHz

It doesn't say anything about turbo mode, but we know that AMD usually add 50MHz for Turbo mode at least to 8870m, also we don't know the clock of 8850m used in 780Z5E with i5, but if it were 575MHz I think that you will notice it in performance.
There is an important factor to consider, I'm speaking of Throttling, so if 8870m has a serious throttling issue then there will be not much difference between them.
Unfortunately it seems by now that only Notebookcheck will answer at this question, the owners of 8870m seems that don't want or they are not able to try any test that solve the question.

The result of 3Dmark06 and 3Dmark11 are already known, there are already 2 reviews about 8870m:
Test Samsung Serie 7 Chronos 770Z5E S02 Notebook - Notebookinfo.de Tests
Review Samsung Series 7 Chronos 770Z7E Notebook - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

First review is about 770Z5E-S02DE, and the second is about 770Z7E-S01DE both confirm the same result:

 

Those results are for the 17" we have never got results from anyone yet on the 15" with the 8870 gpu. Different boards, chasis and cooling solutions. You can't take the 3dmark scores from the 17" and assume the 15" will get the same scores. There has been alot of concern about throttling, etc. I for one would like to see 3dmark scores from the 15" 8870 model to see where they fall.

 

First result is for 15" and are exactly the same of 17".
As I said 3Dmark tests don't measure in any way the throttling.

 

And the first test doesn't include the new 3dmark which is the one i'm most interested in seeing... which as I said, hasn't been done anywhere yet which is why It would be great if one of the folks that got one recently could run it.

The 3dmark tests might not be the best test of long term throttling on a load due to heat but they would give an idea if things are being throttled due to power supply... or if they were being down clocked in general to meat the thermal profile of the system.

 

At today, any review about the matte non touch version?
I mean, no serious test about rgb covering area, etc...?

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As you can see all tests performed on both systems are practically coincident, so it is very likely that event for 3Dmark 13 will be the same.
I want to report another time what Notebookcheck says about a Notebook as Dell XPS15 L521x that has a serious issue about throttling and 3Dmark tests:

Review Dell XPS 15 (L521X) Notebook - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

3Dmark is not created to say something about throttling, it's only a test to say "my is bigger than your", it doen's say anything even in case of Insufficient PSU.
To answer at these questions both CPU and GPU must work together with a heavy load, 3Dmark works overall on GPU.
So please stop to asking for something that already answered and that will not solve the questions that are still unanswered.

 

I have the best buy version. Having occasional slow downs which might be associated with problems with my own internet connection....or not. When I check task manager I see disk usage is close to 100%? This does not make any sense. Suggestions?

 

Quick question for all the owners who have swapped the HDD for the SSD and restored the system in it using the Samsung Recovery software:
Can you please download AS SSD (it's a 280 KB executable benchmark, no need for installation, supports German and English) to check if the SSD is aligned? Because I' know that with a clean install the SSD is always aligned, but I'm not sure what happens with a recovery image.
It should be enough to post a screenshot of the result.
I would appreciate it very much! Thank you!

Edit: we'll have to wait a little more for Notebookcheck's review, just had this quick exchange through Facebook:

 

Not to keep arguing about this but if a unit doesn't have enough power coming from the PSU its going to throttle when the GPU needs more power than it can supply. Yes you can use longer term tests to get a better idea of thottling but running 3dmark would still give you an idea if its thottling due to power since thats not an over-time issue like heat is. You either have power or not.

Its obvious we disagree on the desire to see a 3dmark 13 benchmark run on a 15" 8870 system. I didn't ask you to run one, but for completeness Id like to see one and it would be great if someone who has the computer could give it run. Lets just agree to disagree.

 

If you got it recently, its in the midst of downloading and installing updates... The hard drive is the bottleneck so it sits there at 100% for most of the time that updates are being applied. It will be done soon enough and disk activity will return to normal and any sluggishness will disappear.

 

No problem, Here is the benchmark result:

 

Nope, because GPU is only a part of equation, if for example GPU has a TDP around 45W and we know that CPU has a TDP of 45W, so even if you push GPU at max power and CPU to half power (this is a simple example) a 90W PSU will never go over its limit.

 

Thank you very much Alchemist! It should be the second line in green: 951296 K - OK
If you point the mouse (without clicking) on that line it should say " Offset/Alignment @ 4K Cluster ", can you confirm?

 

Nope all updates are done. Also got rid of intellimemory as well.

 

I'm not going to debate with you.

I would like to see a new 3dmark benchmark on the 15" model with the 8870 gpu. I didn't ask you to do it, but wish someone would so I could compare it to what ive seen on the 8770 equipped model. Nuff said, lets stop wasting peoples bandwidth.

 

Yep. thats waid it says.... Offset/Allignment @ 4k cluster. In the tool tip when highlighting that line.

 

hmm... swipe to bring up the charms menu and tap power... see if one of the options is 'update and restart'? If it is... try that to get the updates applied and see if it does it on reboot.

 

Great! As always, you've been extremely useful! Rep added
At this point I have no more big reasons to prefer a clean install rather than a recovery, I guess

 

I do an easy prediction 3Dmark13 score of 15" with 8870m model will be around 2200 and this info will not help anyone.

 

Any updates on the 8870M version hitting US shores? With an SSD?

 

Nope and still unlikely that it'll have an SSD

 

But why is that so? Any reason for it not coming with an SSD?

 

Because we know the s01 version had a 1tb hard drive. And we know the version announced at CES has a 1tb hard drive, and we know the s02 in Canada has a 1tb hard drive

 

So the s01 version is definitely coming to the USA then? I guess I'll wait for that version and then pop in an SSD of my own. I heard some people saying end of this month it will come?
Also, are the new Samsung Series 7 Chronos on the official Samsung website?

 

We're assuming so.
S01 currently is the same as the UK except with the 8770m

 

Correct, it doesn't come with Pro. I've just purchased and installed it, and it's working fine.

For those in the UK - Microsoft online price for this is £99, but PCWorld/Currys are selling the boxed code for £49. It does mean going to the store or waiting for the delivery if you order on-line, but it's a £50 saving, so well worth it.

I've got this to enable Hyper-V plus media center, basically to install Windows 7 in a virtual machine and use my TV card.

 

I have a question relating to value.

The NP780Z5E is currently listed on backorder for C$1699 on Canada Computers (which is $1651 US / 1105 GBP).

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=710_577_369&item_id=057634

This seems fairly steep, but is it still worth it or should I wait for a price drop after it becomes more widely available?

Thanks,