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    Introducing The 2013 Series 7 Chronos with AMD HD8870M!

    Discussion in 'Samsung' started by yknyong1, Jan 2, 2013.

  1. John Ratsey

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    My guess is that AMD is struggling to deliver enough chips that meet the 8870m requirements. The other GPUs will be the same chip running at lower speed and/or some parts disabled. This is a common problem in the early period of production of any new chip until the fabrication process gets tweaked.

    Samsung try to use a common platform for several models. My NP900X4C says "Computer Brand Name: Samsung 900X3C/900X3D/900X4C/900X4D". Same BIOS (I think) and same drivers/ software even if the boards physically are different.

    I have edited the title of that thread to include the 740.

    That's more relevant to the NP730U3E thread (740 is touchscreen version of 730).

    John
     
  2. delpiero223

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    Just preordered mine on Amazon.de to be hopefully shipped on tuesday / wednesday

    Handschriftlich von meinem Note 2 gesendet
     
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    A joke of a company? By creating various version they seem to be doing well.



    Sent from Samsung Galaxy Note II
     
  5. TroyBarlow

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    Also, the 8850 version has been mentioned previously in the thread and has been available at PC World for a couple of weeks. It's not really that big of a deal...
     
  6. musicmax

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    Is that 4-5 seconds from hitting the button to the login screen? Or 4-5 seconds from after the BIOS screen to the login screen? I put in an SSD (Crucial M4 - not an 840 Pro but still ~ 500MBps/read) and my boot from power button to login screen is about 13 seconds.
     
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    I bought the 8850/i5 version from PCWorld because I was fed up with waiting for the better model. The saving was more than enough to pay for a 256GB 840 Pro SSD. I could have done with the extra cores of the i7 version, but don't really need the top end GPU.

    Overall I'm very happy. I wish the case was slightly easier to get into, and the backlight driver/software could be better. In terms of spec, I really wish they'd gone for 8GB soldered as standard, with the expansion slot empty, and dumped the VGA in favour of DisplayPort, or even better, Thunderbolt. The VGA port is very poor - I've tested with several monitors which are normally pin sharp with VGA. HDMI is fine, although I don't know what the highest resolution is that it can run (hopefully 3840x2180@30hz, so that it can be run with a 32" screen with the same ppi as the laptop).

    Here are my Windows index scores:

    Processsor: 7.1 (was 7.2 before I installed Hyper-V!)
    Memory: 7.5
    Graphics: 6.7
    Gaming Graphics: 6.7
    Primary hard disk: 8.1 (this is with 840 Pro)
     
  8. fingerbib

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    i was hating on win 8 a few pages back. i'm pretty much converted now. it's a fantastic experience with the touch screen. using touch to browse the internet with ie9 is worth it alone.i installed classic shell to get the win 7 start menu back and it's works fantastically well.
     
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    I don't want to start a touch vs non-touch fight, but for me touchscreen on a laptop is useless. Did you see the reflections in the videos posted 1-2 pages ago? Jeez, I couldn't even see what was going on in the game! What's the point of having 178° viewing angles if reflections screw up all the colors after 10°? If they can provide a matte touchscreen I'll be the first in line to buy it, but until then...I hope matte screens don't die because of the new "touch fashion"...
     
  10. saracenrush

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    People vote with their wallets hence you don't see many matte screens. I know I personally cannot stand matte screens as to me they look washed out and strike me as outdated technology. I filmed the videos in the shop and I can say that in person it was better and most importantly I know in my room I don't have industrial shop lighting to reflect off the screen.

    I currently own a reflective screen laptop and have had no problems with reflections. Of course if you plan to use the machine outdoors then this may be an issue but for me, and I feel most people, it isn't. You can buy an anti reflective coating from 3m I believe and this will reduce glare, not the best option if you plan to use it outdoors but better than nothing.

    Here's another that may help you

    ViewGuard Anti-Glare Matte Screen Protector Review
     
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    Any chance any of you that got the 770z7e can check what LCD panel you've got? (Device manager --> monitor --> properties --> details --> choose hardware ID in the dropdown menu).
     
  13. dan111

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    Hi guys

    I've had this laptop for 2 weeks now - NP780Z5E (8850m, Core i5 version with touchscreen)

    I posted my review in the owners thread if anyone is interested.

    Paid £899 for mine from PCWorld but since then it looks like the price has gone up to £999!

    Dan
     
  14. velvet7

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    I am not sure if I should ask it here or in another thread, but what is your opinion about Samsung? The only reason I am hesitating whether to buy this notebook or not is that many people said that Samsung has a poor customer support. How long can this notebook last? (by last I mean run windows smoothly without freezing, bluedeath etc.) How about the graphics card, is it going to be able to handle the games released in 2015-16?

    Did you have samsung before, if yes, then did you have any problems with it in the first 2 years?

    Thank you for you answers :)
     
  15. TroyBarlow

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    Generally when windows stops running "smoothly" and starts freezing, etc, it's on the user, not the machine. If you're good about not installing tons of crap, and regularly defragging, running anti-virus and anti spyware, you'll be fine.
     
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    What was the final consensus reached about a clean install vs a recovery when installing an ssd? Is there any way to download the drivers for this chronos if I just format an 840 pro and throw it in there?
     
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    To users 770z5: could you check what LCD panel you've got? Thx in advance for your reply.
     
  18. John Ratsey

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    Many surveys indicate that Samsung reliability is better than average. I have had a few issues over the years. Most recently with getting a new battery for my NP900X3B (there seems to be a problem with premature wear with that particular battery). But I persuaded them to provide a replacement, as have various other members.

    Their technical support is a definite weakness, judging from some of the entertaining responses that get posted here from time to time. So you come here for your first level support and we tell you when it is time to approach Samsung. :D

    Once you have SW Update installed then it should do the rest. I recommend that you use SW Update to download and export all the latest drivers/ software onto a flash drive before swapping the SSD so you don't have to immediately go on line after basic Windows installation and hope that the SW Update isn't having one of its periodic sulks just when you are trying to get your computer set up.

    John
     
  19. velvet7

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    I am currently using a Dell machine which was in the upper mid when I bought it. Now it freezes when I have 10+ applications open. Sure, you can say that I should close some of them maybe, but I can't as I need all of them to be open. For example, I can't even open 10-15 pages in chrome because switching pages takes years...
    The funny thing, I could do all of the above 2 years ago.
     
  20. spybenj

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    And chances are that if you cleaned the machine(both physically(like with compressed air) and on windows(a reinstall)) it's be able to do that
     
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    Like he said this is a user problem. Not the system being faulty. Dell didnt put your laptop together shotty, You CPU isnt getting slower your memory chips didnt get slower or smaller etc. You most likely have alot of applications running in the background that you are not aware of. You may have spyware installed that is using up your CPU and memory etc. This takes from your installed system memory which then makes the system use your Hard Disk space as virtual memory which is extremely slow. You need to defrag your hard drive to make sure it is running at its full capabilities. Not to mention running spyware removers to make sure you dont have programs hogging your resources that you did not install purposely.
     
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    Amazon just let me know, my 770z5e will be shipped today - I am so happy to hear this :thumbsup::smile:
     
  23. velvet7

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    Okay, you are right. All I was trying to say that softwares improve, new versions appear, thus my computer's performance is simply not good enough anymore.
     
  24. Morbeas

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    Which exact model?
     
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    The silver one with 8870m, 8GB RAM and matte screen without Touchscreen
     
  26. TroyBarlow

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    It's the march of time... But that can be mitigated through regular maintenance.
     
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    Bleh, just realized you're in Germany. :\
     
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    Jop, sorry for any missunderstandings I caused :eek:
     
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    When will Samsung release the 15" 8870m model in the U.S. already! It seems ridiculous that yet again Best Buy has the gimped laptop model. I refuse to shop at Best Buy because of this. Not to mention they reduced they're return policy to only 15 days. I might just get the 17 inch model or maybe I'll settle for an overpriced MacBook Pro.
     
  30. spybenj

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    For all we know the laptop was always coming out around now, and bestbuy got it to us early
     
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    But it doesn't matter because Best Buy got us the inferior version early.

    Okay not "inferior", but the version that isn't as good that no one really wants unless they can't afford the 100 or so extra for a much better GPU.
     
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    But it's still better than nothing
     
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    Hi everyone, been lurking on this thread since it first came out. Was eagerly waiting for this laptop didn't want the best buy version. Wanted a new laptop for gaming and school thought this was it. But I recently discovered the Lenovo y500 with the dual 650m gpus. I know it has terrible battery life but price will be a lot cheaper for something that is just as good in my book. So unless the black version of the Samsung comes out within the next few days this will be my choice
     
  34. kmann1994

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    True.

    But like me, most people won't even consider a non 8870m version and the fact that we've had to wait THIS long for the real version to come out gets more and more frustrating by the day.

    If there's nothing substantial by April 15th (my birthday, tax day, and also the middle of the month), then I honestly will give up and forget about this laptop until I happen to stumble upon it when it is completely 100% in stores.
     
  35. spybenj

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    I won't either.
    I returned the 8770m version today so that I can get the 8870m version.
    All I'm saying is I don't think we can blame bestbuy
     
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    This looks like a cut down version of the Series 7 ultra. It retains the nice 1080p touch screen, and for the price it should still be the PLS display. but it gets rid of the dedicated GPU and goes with the ultrabook staple i5 albeit the new refresh which is slightly faster. It will likely be rated for 8hrs battery given its lineage.
     
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    Typical Best Buy exclusives. Hate it.
     
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    I think the aluminum touchscreen is 780z5e and the non touchscreen is 770z5e
     
  41. spybenj

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    Yea I wrote the wrong thing, oops!
     
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    I'm starting to wonder if this graininess some are seeing could be a defective screen. I've looked at the screen with dark and light color backgrounds and cannot see any graininess. The display is amazing
     
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    i think some people that see the graininess is similar to the effect of a screenprotector on a phone.. i use wet screen protectors and you can see a very very light graininess effect buts it not ALL THAT BAD to what people make it out to be. Honestly i've used this over 3 weeks.. you don't even notice if you dont think about it. Its not like a deadpixel. If its definitely bothering you guys that much, just return the laptop and wait for an Asus.
     
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    should be picking up my 16GB version later on today guys, so excited! Then I'll just need to find a cheap samsung 840 pro and I'll be good to go
     
  45. spybenj

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    Let us know how it is!
    When you get it can you check to see if there's an express cache? Canada computers is probably wrong but just in case!
     
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    I have the y500 just got it. I love the msata (256gb ssd drive i added) . I love the sli gt650. I have them both overclocked to 980 MHz. (overclocking got me an extra 5-10 frames per second in for example in Crysis 3. I can play 1920x1080 and I can do this in all games with detail still set on high and still get 35-40 frames per second. ...BUT it is a tank and it has a big old screen bezel the 3 hours battery bites. It also has the bios locked down so it requires a custom bios to do something like change the wifi card etc. Yes the wifi card is weak. All games do not take advantage of SLI neither does the adobe suite of programs (which I use). The screen is not bad but it no IPS challenger. Still with taxes in I did not break 1300 (+ 2 year warranty). I also got a 170 watt power supply as well. The touch pad is not as nice as the Samsung either. I have been torn between keeping it or returning it and getting the new Samsung. However having the extra 1 TB drive for storage is the cats behind . Both of these units have their strengths You know what they say the grass is always greener. Just something to think about. It does run super quite and cool even gaming overclocked for hours. This is its saving grace.
     
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    Kicking and screaming isn't going to release this machine any sooner. Why do you need it so bad? If you want to give up on Samsung for releasing something weeks later than you expected then go ahead. No one is stopping you from getting something else.

    And what if it doesn't get released by your birthday? What if they miss your birthday by a few days? Or weeks? Are you going to email them an angry letter complaining how they missed your birthday?

    You're comparing a gaming laptop to a premium one. The Y500 may have a better GPU configuration and cooling than the Chronos, but it's overall quality, appearance, screen quality, touchpad, battery life and other aesthetics may not match the Chronos.
     
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    I think we'll hear about it this week, as the videos said end of march beginning of April.
    Definitely by next week. Like Friday the 6th
     
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    I check Amazon like twice a day. I think that'll be where it appears first.

    Haha I have a routine where I go Computers>Laptops>Samsung>Core i7 and then I look for the Chronos haha. It was a good day when that ATIV Book 6 was on there for a bit. Indicative of good things coming.

    I'm not negative, but I do come off as impatient and I realize that. Mainly this is because the longer I wait, the more my MBPr goes down in value and the less I'll get for it. Thankfully, a recent check on eBay showed me that they are going for $1800+ which is simply fantastic news.
     
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    I think it'll either show up on bestbuy or amazon, or samsung's site
    I have a google alert for series 7 chronos, 780z5e and 770z5e
    Il make one for 880z5e I guess
    I check Canada computer's site every day, to see if it's in stock anywhere
     
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