Introducing The 2013 Series 7 Chronos with AMD HD8870M!

Did you make sure you uninstall IntelliMemory?

 

I'm guessing the old design is "good enough" and they need to keep the 1" think ness to provide adequate cooling for the powerful 8870m and the DVD drive since-it's a 17 "notebook and not supposed to be an ultra book

 

most ppl here actually prefer the black keyboard, the new 15inch silver keyboard the words are not visible. So the 17inch has a superior keyboard, its actually different from np700 which looks v different.

the front cover has the same finish as the 15 inch not sure why u think its different.

only thing sucks about 17inch, is that its pretty heavy at 6.6Lbs

 

Series 7 ultra has been reviewed
MobileTechReview Forum, News and Reviews: Samsung Series 7 Ultra Video Review

video review here

 

You already uninstalled "Intellimemory"? That is the app that destroys performance.

Jason

 

Oh because when i compare this to np700z7c, they look so similar so I thought the cover is not changed. I used and returned np780z5e and np700z5c. From the expeience of using 700z5c,780z5e, the backlight of 780z5e was more beautiful, but I agree you that black keyboard is better in daylight. There was difference of touch feeling for frontcover and keyboard side of np700z5c and np780z5e and I like touch feelling of np780z5e more. So if the cover of 770z7e uses same material as 780z5e, I will be very satisfied 770z7e. Honestly, what i really want is np770z5e, but I do not want to wait more......

 

Well, I just replaced the HDD with my brand new SSD following black83's tutorial. Overall it was little trouble except when opening the laptop (I cut myself underneath a fingernail lol).

Then I did a fresh install of Windows 8 from a 4 GB USB 2.0 fash drive, that's just super fast (like 5 minutes ). Here you go, W8 without Plants vs Zombies or Jaime's recipes ! Sweet Note that I was able to turn Fast Boot & Secure Boot back on, and the laptop boots perfectly (and OMG it's so fast !!)

Of course not everything was functional at first, but I had SW Update on my external HDD ; so I installed it and let it grab all the necessary stuff (no bloatware of course). I ran SSD Magician too. All I have to fix now is the crash happening when closing the lid (but we know Intel HD4000 driver is causing this) and I'm done

Now I need to decide what to do with the original HDD which is now in an Enermax 2.5" case, still untouched.

 

to the users who are reporting a "grainy" screen, I found this to be caused by font's being set at 125% of normal. After setting this to 100% my screen became crisp.

 

Hi all. I've been following the chronos series since last year and when I saw the preview for the current refresh earlier this year I was excited. But why is Samsung goofing around and not making these systems easily accessible.

I've been waiting for a long time for 8870m touch screen version in the uk or the us but no luck, The more I wait, the more I think they are unserious about their laptop division. Like someone said earlier take a page out of apple's book and make your products uniform.

Seriously this goes out to all laptops manufactures out there.Organize yourselves and stop making us spend more time looking for your products to buy than actually enjoying them.

 

True this...

I guess this is one of the reasons why I jumped on the MBPr for my college sendoff laptop when it was announced. They marketed it so perfectly and easily and made it available the day it was announced. Of course, they faced month long backorders, but I still was at least able to buy right away!

I mean it has been FOUR MONTHS since these things were announced!! How terrible is Samsung in this respect?!

At least this computer is proving to be worth it, at least. Although I hope I don't find this ever increasingly prevalent "screen graininess" thing to be a dealbreaker...

 

Laptop manufacturers are constrained by the availability of components produced by others. The 8870m GPU was only announced last December and, I suspect, they are still ramping up its production. Getting a new chip to yield lots of the top-end parts takes time and tweaking of the production process. Hence there is initial abundance of the slower 8850m.

John

 

Well haswell + nvidia 750m I think is going to be available soon. Therefore soon this "new" laptop is going to turning old, early compared to its late availability.

 

The only issue I have with the screen is when the Internet explorer app first loads up, you see a 'smearing' like jpeg compression. It's the software though, not the screen. Otherwise, i have not noticed any 'graininess' at all.

One issue i'm having now is that the switchable graphics options have completely disappeared! There were there a few days ago, but now when i load up catalyst centre, i get very few options (yes, advanced is seleted) and if i load up the switchable graphics app directly, i only get the web view, of special offers etc. I'm going to reinstall the catalyst software, see if that makes a difference..

 

That's the problem that always happens when PC manufacturers delay their product releases, they hype it so much then delay it so much that's its already old on release.

I will still get this samsung and will reserve the haswell + nvidia upgrade for the macbook pro retina JUNE 2013 revision. which i am sure will include handwell

 

That depends on what "soon" turns out to be. Maybe Intel will launch Haswell before the end of the current quarter in order to be able to tick a box somewhere or maybe it will slip in order to give more time to shift Ivy Bridge inventory before Haswell's arrival causes price drops. And maybe Nvidia will not have got large quantities of 750m chips ready to sell. That's a lot of uncertainty until the products are on the shelves.

However, I draw attention to the info here about the new Nvidia range, in particular the graph of GPU Boost2.0. This shows that the chip performance above a base design value will depend on the thermal and electrical design of the notebook. I wonder if we are seeing something similar with the AMD GPU in the new Series 7.

John

 

Shouldn't the 8870M still be faster than an 750M?

 

considering that 750 is slightly faster 650, 8870 should comfortably best 750 too... but the real question is when is amd officially releasing 8000 series gpu and its drivers...I thought the date was 1st of april

 

Jup, it should definitely be. It's comparable to the 670m, when game is supported good with AMD drivers

 

My reference for answering such questions is the notebookcheck GPU benchmark list. At the moment the 8870M (for which there are some results) is #49 while they have put the 750M (no results) at #59 which would be based on extrapolation.

However, given possible thermal / power design constraints we may see both GPUs under-performing their potential. It would be interesting to see how they both performed in the same chassis.

John

 

The problem is that when you create hype for your product you have to get your product available to buy ASAP before the next hyped up competing product is announced or you risk losing out on a hunk of sales to people that then just decide to wait & buy that next big thing.

I guess I'm just particularly frustrated because I actually need a new laptop before the 19th of the month & planned on picking this one up but that time frame is quickly closing.

 

Not that it means very much but the Amazon .uk page went from "Out of Stock" to "Usually dispatched within 2 to 5 weeks."

Samsung NP780Z5E-T02UK 15.6-inch Notebook (Intel core i5 2.6GHz Processor, 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD, Windows 8 Professional): Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

 

The 750m will be nowhere near the 8870m.

 

agreed, however its not like they had an event for this product. they showed it at a consumer show..... so its not like they controlled the timing of this. What i find frustrating (more confusing), is the amount of different configurations of this product, and the different configurations per region without really any clear cut clarification from Samsung. I mean, why not just release the info themselves, instead of us relying on 3rd party websites giving us info, that can very well be misleading?

 

I'm not so sure. I think a 750m with gddr5 instead gddr3 would play tough.

 

In Germany this ment, that the article was available in less than 7 weeks, when the page said "3 - 4 weeks"

p.s. my 100st post

 

GT 750m is just 5% slower than 670mx and it's still a class 1 card and faster than a gtx 660m and the current GDDR5 gt 650m. As a matter a fact the, the 8870m is as fast as the old Fermi GTX 670m

NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M - NotebookCheck.net Tech

I'll take the NVidia and Optimus any day of the week compared to Enduro Horror issues.

 

So we can confirm that the Nvidia 750M is superior to ATI 8870m, and that ATI always tends to waste their hardware no matter how good on crappy drivers that they never seem to get right, so Nvidia will also produce a more stable efficient driver and optimus platform.


on a side note, i'm sick and tired of checking best buy for the 15inch 8870 ! >_<

 

No we cannot, besides performance the power consumption numbers are even more important. We do not know yet how efficient is 750M, maybe need more power to be fast as 8870M. If so, will generate more heat and manufacturers won't apply in thin laptops, because we do not like noisy hairdryers...

 

Just release the 8870m version in the USA, with or without an SSD and you'll get a lot of happy customers.

 

Is there a TOUCH-SCREEN 15inch 8870 ? i can't find the model, i find 8870 only on the matt screen non-touch.

touchscreen only on 8770 confirmed ?

 

Cannot confirm this at all, it was only announced the other day. Plus, the only way the 750m would match the GTX 670m would be in a GDDR5 configuration. Imagine how long we'd have to wait for computers with just the normal 750m, let alone the GDDR5 version. And when that version comes, who says it'll even be in a package as beautiful as the Chronos?

Besides, the 8870m with proper drivers already performs at the 670m.

 

The series 9 is now officially available, maybe samsung'll announce the chronos too?

 

This is the configuration I am after, as well.

 

It has been confirmed countless times.

Most likely will come out in the coming weeks, as the only release date that we were given was "march-April timeframe"

 

if a 15inch 8870 TOUCHSCREEN is confirmed, do you know the model number ?

thanks

 

We don't know the model number, however it's assumed to be
NP780z5e-s02ub(silver)
NP880z5e-s02ub(black)
When Samsung initially announced the chronos it had a 8870, at CES it also had an 8870 with 16gb of ram. It is available in other counties with the 8870. All of the information on the laptop(from sites such as fishingtree) have it with an 8870m.
We know that it will come out, just not when

 

The 8870 with touch screen has been sold in the UK for a few weeks but it's out now.

 

Any links to this? And any reviews?

 

http://www.notebookreview.com/defau..._pro_and_series_9_premium_ultrabook_available

 

And any reviews for it?

 

Do know the model # for this one? 13" or 15" or both?

 

Has anyone in the US/ Canada been able to buy one of these yet? Specifically I am talking about the 15" model with touchscreen and Radeon 8870M graphics.

Cheers!

 

So I was checking inventory around me. I have about 10 Best Buy stores within 50 Miles only 2 of them have the 8770 touchscreen 15" in stock. What does it meaaaaannnnn???? 8870 time? Anyone else seeing the same thing or am I just in the right area to have my local stores sold out of them when I'm ready to buy? Think I should wait for the 8870?

 

^ Depends if you are a gamer or not. I'm a casual gamer so I opted for the Bestbuy version (about 4 days of ownership now and I LOVE the laptop). The 8770 is fine for my casual gaming neeeds. Even if the 8870 version comes out, I doubt it will be priced the same ($1199 for the current BB model with 8770). If you do a currency conversion of the model with 8870, it comes out to almost $1499 (last time I did it).

Being on a budget, $1200 was the max for my laptop budget and the BB suits me needs just fine. The touch screen and battery life is excellent!!

 

Yea thats my exact thoughts don't need the 8870 but its perfect timing that supplies have dwindled just when I'm ready for purchase!

 

I don't know if supplies are dwindling, 10 out of 11 best buys near me have stock and none of them are on display yet.

 

Personally i wouldn't go for the 8770 , simply because the gaming performance isn't great. I'm not looking at hardcore gaming, but a good enough machine to play simcity on high settings and guild wars 2, planetside 2 on mid-high and run smooth and atleast be able to play newer games smoothly for the next 2 years or so. I know for sure 8770 won't be able to deliver especially with ATI's abysmal record on drivers.

8870 is the way to go for everyone, 8770 shouldn't have been released in the first place, don't worry too much about the price it'll pay back and it's better than paying $1500-$2000 more for a Retina Macbook. Also if you want to save money you can simply get the NON-TOUCH which will be cheaper (currently non-touch 17inch is $1250). Touch is great, but not that big of a deal really, by the time apps actually start to optimize for touch-screen laptops in 4 years, it will be time for you to get a new laptop. It's more of a personal preference.

HOwever the wait is getting painful, especially for those of us who really need a laptop urgently (which i do), i hope it will release this week or early next week, it doesn't make sense for Samsung to delay it more than that, especially when it's available in europe+UK already, unless Samsung are not serious about their Laptops anymore.

 

Personally i wouldn't go for the 8770 , simply because the gaming performance isn't great. I'm not looking at hardcore gaming, but a good enough machine to play simcity on high settings and guild wars 2, planetside 2 on mid-high and run smooth and atleast be able to play newer games smoothly for the next 2 years or so. I know for sure 8770 won't be able to deliver especially with ATI's abysmal record on drivers.

8870 is the way to go for everyone, 8770 shouldn't have been released in the first place, don't worry too much about the price it'll pay back and it's better than paying $1500-$2000 more for a Retina Macbook. Also if you want to save money you can simply get the NON-TOUCH which will be cheaper (currently non-touch 17inch is $1250). Touch is great, but not that big of a deal really, by the time apps actually start to optimize for touch-screen laptops in 4 years, it will be time for you to get a new laptop. It's more of a personal preference.

HOwever the wait is getting painful, especially for those of us who really need a laptop urgently (which i do), i hope it will release this week or early next week, it doesn't make sense for Samsung to delay it more than that, especially when it's available in europe+UK already, unless Samsung are not serious about their Laptops anymore.

 

Well isn't that the case with everything? This is the best currently on the market, and it's at a pretty keen price point too. I got mine 2 weeks ago and it's still running Visual Studio, Eclipse, Word 2013, Cubase, XCOM and Tropico 4 with ease...I have no need to upgrade just yet

Keeping up with tech is a losing battle. Just choose a laptop and be productive!

 

Hello all,

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