New Samsung NC20 Netbook coming in February?

http://jkkmobile.blogspot.com/2008/12/samsung-to-release-new-netbook.html

 

Cool. Thanks for the update.

 

Is that the Vista version which is already shipping in South Korea?

 

Nice find.

 

Only interested if it has:
- NV 9400 GPU/chipset
- Same matte casing
- Basically same design but with the improved 9400.

I'd get rid of my NC10 right away if they just did that "simple" chipset swap.

 

How to improve on the NC10?

(i) Thinner (but not resulting in a smaller, noisy, fan)

(ii) Even longer battery life (so I wouldn't want a chipset that doesn't match Intel's power efficiency)

(iii) Slightly bigger touchpad (while not shrinking the keyboard)

(iv) Sleep 'n' charge on one USB port

(v) 3G

(vi) Express card slot

(vii) Enough fast solid state storage to hold the operating system while keeping the HDD for bulk storage.

I wouldn't want the display any smaller because, unless the keyboard is also shrunk, we would end up with a bigger display bezel.

If, however, Samsung think there is also room for an NC9, then that could have a smaller display and keyboard.

John

 

The way to fix this is to put Nvidia's chipset in, use Pabluso (which means Z series processors), or wait till fall when the Pineview platform is launched.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if that new netbook is the NC11: a NC10 with 3G and Vista.

 

....dont be surprised if this thing has a dedicated GPU the NC10 in many ways seem superior to alot of the current netbooks that being said they probably are looking to make something unlike anything we've seen im sure they are gonna target the asus n10j.....i hope

 

Nvidia Ion platform?

 

quite possible

 

NC20 showing up, a 12" with Intel Via Nano
http://www.dabs.ie/productview.aspx...105&PageMode=1&NavigationKey=11105,4294951931

 

NC20 is coming

Samsung going to launch NC20, the upcoming netbook that still in the progress. The Samsung NC20 will powered by 1.3GHz Intel Via Nano U2250 (u2350?) processor with 1GB memory and 160GB hard drive. On its 12.1-inch widescreen display running Windows XP Home operation system. It provide with ergonomic keyboard along with 1.3-megapixel webcam. It support Bluetooth 2.0 connectivity and 3-in-1 card reader. Samsung NC20 will available in February 2009 and priced at €461 ($641).

 

How does the 1.3GHz Nano U2250 compare in performance to the 1.6Ghz Atom?

Why the sudden change?

 

Maybe they mean the u2350?: Nano vs Atom

It uses way more power than an Atom, has more cache, out of order, could be either 65nm or 45nm, has up to SSSE3 like Atom, and iss 64-bit.

 

If it is the Via Nano, then it isn't Intel. Trusted Reviews made an Atom - Nano comparison.

John

 

Wonder how Atom+Nvida Ion chipset will do vs Nano+???? chipset?

 

Its too big for me but its great to see a big name get behind Via Nano. Let's see how it compares to the Atom in real-life usage, both speed and battery-wise.

 

my oh my is ATI missing out what are they doing? Nows the time to get an AMD netbook with like a 3450 integrated...

 

A contact within Samsung has confirmed the 12" NC20. It will have the same styling as NC10.

 

Is the Via Nano CPU the consequence of Intel not allowing the inexpensive Atom being used on bigger than 10" machines? I also thought Microsoft had a similar size restriction relating to XP being used.

John

 

Could well be. I read somewhere the cheap XP license is limited to 1024*600.

This may well be the explanation why Dell Mini 12 is more expensive, comes with a different Atom and Vista.

 

The Dell Mini 12 is just plain weird. It comes with an even smaller Atom made for MIDs so I don't think Intel is keeping their processors for certain machines and Vista on top of that, although they seem to be shipping them with XP now. I think this is how this notebook is also coming with XP Home.

If Dell and Samsung managed to get XP ULCPC on 12" 1280x800, I sure hope HP is able to do it with the next Mini-Note. A 10" screen with that res would be heavenly

 

They can ship it with a normal XP Home license, but not with the XP Home for ultralow cost PC's (The latter being cheaper). At least, that's what I read.

 

I thought XP isn't being sold anymore and Vista has to be installed on any computer with an MS desktop OS? Isn't that why you can only get XP on other computers with a Vista Business or Ultimate package? Its very confusing because MS isn't exactly coming out and clarifying it.

 

The Mini 12 comes with the Z series Atom processors because dell wanted it to be fanless like the mini 9.

 

Actually, an improvement that would triple the desirability of the NC10 for me would be if the display bezel be reduced so that they can fit an 11 inch screen. Even if the bigger display cuts into battery life.

Implementing a bigger touchpad (like you mentioned) without cost to the keyboard would be second on the list.

The NC10 seems to be able to run Vista as is, so for me, give these it would make the NC10 the perfect netbook as far as I'm concerned. At least, until the next generation of netbooks (with new CPUs and such) come along.

 

I very much like my NC10, but my perfect notebook is a matte 12" w/ 1280x800 res, full size keyboard, 6+ hours battery, 3 lbs, and $500. If the NC20 fits this description, my NC10 is going on craigslist.

I wanted the Dell 12 to be that machine, but it has a glossy screen, bad battery, and the same size keyboard as the NC10 (which makes no sense given the extra width of the 12).

 

To a Mini 9 owner that keyboard would be like a revolution.

 

That's almost what I want. Except I love glossy screens. So I want a semi glossy screen that's hardly reflective, like Sony SZ and Macbook Air.

I wouldn't mind 13" either. The extra inch makes it more comfortable to work on my lap.

 

I think you want the Sony SZ with the first digit of the price deleted.

John

 

Minus 700 grams, choppy keyboard, optical drive and half the thickness

Maybe something like this: http://www.sony.co.nz/vaio/thewaitisover/

 

NC20 to be shown at CES

 

I didn't see the NC20 listed in Engadget's rundown of Samsung's CES show - did it not get shown after all?

 

Maybe it will be shown soon? CES officially doesn't start until tomorrow.

 

My bad, thanks.

 

Photo's and specifications of the NC20:
http://www.sammynetbook.com/news.php?extend.65

It seems to come in February. I updated the title of this thread.

 

Photos and specs are old news. See post 2 of this thread. There's now a version where one doesn't have to guess at what the Korean text says.

John

 

Well many of you have already seen the nc20 on engadget so im not gonna bother showing it how does the Via chrome GPU stack up to intel's GMA? Any idea?

Also is there any confirmation if the 12.1" Display is LED?

 

Trusted Reviews have found another version of the User Guide with the Atom CPU.

John

 

It was discussed earlier in this thread. Via Nano looked promising.

 

New NC20 BIOS (03MQ) posted today. However, there are no revision notes so there are no clues such as "Include Atom CPU support").

John

 

ok for those of us too lazy to download exactly what did that document show?

 

The NC20 drivers and software are now on the Samsung download site, which usually indicates that production is starting. There's a VIA graphics driver and Atheros wireless.

I find it interesting that the drivers and software are for XP. I thought the display resolution was too high to qualify for XP as a netbook.

John

 

By intel's definition this isnt a "netbook" though i always have felt that 12" was a perfect screen size for portable use.

Xp is good because it'll start up in a second and will be quicker overall. I do remember people were claiming that the netbook XP couldnt go past 1024 x 768 or something like that so i guess this would be a normal version.

 

12" with 1200x800 screen sounds perfect. I think i'll definately be getting one of these

 

NC20 Hands On

 

It says the power for doing minimum work is 5 hours and 43 mins, but when you start surfing the internet, you drop down to like 3 hours! Apparently the VIA Nano chip isnt very efficient at doing a lot of load work. I thought this would be a perfect computer, but with such a bad battery life review, I can't consider this anymore.

 

almost 6 hours of battery life this netbook/notebook is sweet!!

These pictures show everything all the ports and such.

 

yup i want the 9400 aswell. would make the netbook a great little gaming machine