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    Samsung ATIV Book 9 Plus - NP940X3G

    Discussion in 'Samsung' started by droyder, Jun 20, 2013.

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    Base model i5, 4gb, 128 ssd.
     
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    Wow! The preorder page is up and it's still 1215.96 instead of 1399! Amazon.com: Samsung ATIV Book 9 Plus NP940X3G-K01US 13.3-Inch Laptop: Computers & Accessories Order it now!!

    Edit: This is below the price of the baseline model of the acer aspire s7! Below the price of the baseline vaio pro 13! Below the price of some of the (admittedly higher specced on the inside) old models of the ativ book 9 / series 9! It undercuts the retina macbook pro by 300 dollars! This is simply incredible!

    But... I'm still not completely sure it's not a mistake that'll be corrected. 1215.96 is a really random number, they list the other ativ book 9s at their MSRP, there's no "Pre-order guarantee" on the product page and it doesn't fall under the list of products that have pre order prices guaranteed. I'm not going to totally believe it until they ship it out and charge my credit card only 1215.96 instead of 1399. Psychologically in this scenario where, it's better to keep your hopes down and be pleasantly surprised than bank on saving 200 dollars and then be disappointed. So it's better to expect 1399 and hope for 1215.96 than to expect 1215.96!
     
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    The "Add to Cart" button is now live however whenever you click it, it immediately takes you to an error page stating your cart is empty.
     
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    The Amazon price just increased to $1,224.59
     
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    That strange, it worked for me - even in an incognito mode not logged in! Are you using google chrome? Also... it's 1224.59 right now, rose in price by $8.63 o_O strange.
     
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    Sorry for the confusion, I meant Samsungs webpage
     
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    I don't think I've ever seen a more unorganized marking mess. With the amount of inconsistencies with the specs, the delayed ordering, constant price fluctuations, webpage errors, and not to mention not a single employee knowing any information about this product. Its crazy. Loosing my patience...
     

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    is there an i5,8 gig version?
     
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    Very difficult decision, base 9 plus or nice rugged thinkpad t440s...
     
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    I wonder if this is worth it. Any thoughts?

    BestBuy

    It would save me a big headache waiting for the Book 9+ to show up.
     
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    I completely agree with that sentiment. Those of you whom are familiar with Samsung's marketing practices, is this a common thing? I mean this is a complete circus! They can't even get the specs right on their own page. And don't even get me started on that product manager stating the price at 1599. Don't you think if he misspoke he should have taken the time to clarify? I am really excited about the ATIV 9 plus but I am really starting to have reservations about Samsung's product quality given the overt fiasco this product launch has been.
     
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    Couple things, my order price did not change in my cart despite the price increase on Amazon. I'd like to take that as a good sign even if it isn't. Seeing as how the MSRP of 1399 is clearly listed I think it may actually be a legit price yet I'm not quite sure what Amazons motivation in this instance may be. On a separate note, suppose this deal is real. Are you guys excited enough for this product to pull the trigger despite the base model storage or are most of you going to wait and see how the reviews play out or if info surfaces on the avail of a i7 8gb 256 SSD? Obviously I'm a little conflicted so I'm wondering what the general sentiment is.
     
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    Would wait for

    1. Reviews. Very important.
    2. i7, 8gb, 256ssd

    If bad reviews + no i7 = Asus Zenbook infinity.

    Wait and see approach is definitely the best idea now considering all the marketing screw-ups.
     
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    Then zenbook infinity does seem more well rounded, but can it beat this potential 12xx preorder.
     
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    That's the risk if somebody is willing to take. Personally, I would wait for the reviews, even it means paying a little more. Look at the Vaio Pro 13. On paper, it sounded amazing but nobody knew it was a half baked product with tons of problems until the reviews came out.
     
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    The Series 9 is in a completely different size range.

    Decide whether you want portability or power.

    John
     
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    That is true, I am not expecting it to be a blunder, my current series 9 is going like a champ. Maybe I'll give it a little more thought.
     
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    I seriously wonder what Amazon must think is wrong with this thing to drop it that much before the first one has even hit the street. $100 drop has been normal with Amazon and BestBuy on Samsung S9s for the past year but almost $200? Interesting that both Samsung and Amazon still say it is 2.56 pounds, that must be a mistake.
     
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    That might be $3000..I wouldn't wait for it.
     
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    Does the SD card stick out when inserted? 128 is too small for me.

    Thanks.
     
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    I don't think you can stick the micro sd into the book 9 without the larger adapter. And the regular sd card does stick out at least on the older book 9 FHD. Speed on that is very slow compared to regular SSD drive so if you are thinking of using that as a solution to increase the weak standard 128 SSD storage you are better off purchasing a 256 SSD model or doing that upgrade yourself. They really need to start making 256 SSD standard. Its been a huge deterrent in the past for W8 ultrabooks with the 128 SSD systems. I mean we went from 1 TB drive and now they expect us to pay more for dismal 128 storage that is maybe 70 GB out of the box. On the retail level I've yet to see a 256 SSD model that you can buy off the shelf. Pathetic.
     
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    If i5/4gb,128ssd is enough for you then go for it because $12xx is a pretty good price for the overall package. Specs, weight, battery life and design etc... My reason for waiting is not so much due to the i7 version but for the reviews in case they are issues like the Vaio Pro 13. Heck, even the Haswell crApBook Air had issues with the wifi.
     
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    According to the comments on Youtube, Asus France did confirm that it will be lower than 3k and will 8gb of RAM. I hope so cause I am torn over the B9+ or Zenbook Infinity. Both are equally stunning!
     
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    If you add the "square trade" price on top of what amazon is charging for the laptop it turns into the MSRP, so it seems amazon is trying to throw in a free extended warranty
     
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    That's not saying much considering today was the first day you saw a 128GB version you could at least preorder off the shelf..the K03US has still not be released.
     
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    Well... I'm not sure if I made the right choice. But I preordered on amazon for $1225 (with the 3 year square trade warranty) for $1400. Seems like a great deal to me. Assuming it doesn't change. Anyway, I can always cancel the whole order before it ships and not pay a cent.

    128GB is enough for me, especially with my USB 3.0 2TB external. Don't see why I'd ever need to carry around a lot of large files with me, so I'm fine with that. Maybe others are not though. I'll wait to hear what else we hear from Samsung in the next 10 days before deciding to keep or cancel my preorder.

    Either way, I'd much rather pre-order now, than miss the deal and have to get it for $1400.
     
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    Can anyone tell me why Samsung released a press release stating it would go up for pre order today August 18th, yet I have still have been unable to preorder from Samsung.
     
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    Boggles my mind the absence of info about the high spec model. What's the point?!
     
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    Lifebook UH90 Specs & Latest News | Fujitsu | The Verge
    anyone have information on fan noise on this one? (available in Japan with 256 SSD, 8 GB RAM, Haswell i7, 3200x1800, keboard with F-keys, great design, light, 14" yet almost as small as 13.3. all you eed is s.b. to send it to you, and an english win license. It's not overly expensive either. I once wrote to a reviewer about fan noise but they wouldn't answer.) also, one might want to keep an eye on whether they have a matte version (no idea, but I think not ATM).
     
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    I want to like this laptop but a few things bother me (aside from the poor launch and details):

    • 4GB shouldn't even be an option
    • A 15-inch laptop might've been a better intro to this resolution and might've also allowed for more ram and SSD space. Again a 128GB drive is about as useless as 4GB ram.

    Samsung was one of the first companies to produce more ram on a single chip. I think I recall Samsung as one of the first companies to have the 8 GB stick, so why even have these 4GB laptops ?

    That high resolution implies the use of certain types of applications (graphics, games, etc...) which require more ram and more drive space, so why doesn't the rest of the hardware follow suit ?
     
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    Ahh, $1225 base model. Must resist, must wait for 8GB model :-/. So difficult.
     
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    How much RAM do I need? (Early 2013 edition) | ZDNet

    The 8GB/64-bit advantage - More RAM doesn't always mean better performance | ZDNet

    Do You Really Need More Than 6 GB Of RAM? - Is

    Do You Really Need More Than 4GB of RAM?
    "If you are a regular user, just light browsing, IM, or YouTube, you are probably just fine with 2GB of RAM—but check Resource Monitor if you aren't sure.
    If you consider yourself a power user but don't use Photoshop or virtual machines, you should probably have 3-4GB of RAM installed.
    If you are a power user with virtual machines or you do heavy audio/video/image editing, you should consider upgrading with as much RAM as you can afford—just keep in mind that you'll need a 64-bit version of Windows to take advantage of it all."

    So 4gb isn't all that bad if you're not going to be doing virtual machines, gaming, or photoshop. If you plan on using it for photoshopping, then wait for the updated version. Otherwise, this isn't a machine for gaming or virtual machining, it's an ultrabook for everyday productivity, and 8gb of ram really isn't necessary.
     
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    Samsung ATIV Book 9 Plus in Portugal (more series to come):

    Samsung 940X3G-K01PT
    Price: 1.385,62€ to 1.510,00€
    CPU: Intel Core i5 4200U 1.6GHz
    GPU: Intel HD 4400
    RAM: 4GB DDR3 1600
    SSD: 128GB
    Screen: SuperBright+ 350NIT Full HD 1920x1080

    Overpriced. :|
     
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    Only full HD and is it even touch?
     
  38. isosunrise

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    My Series 9 X3B 4GB of memory with many browser tabs, word/excel, chat, occasional photoshop runs out of memory pretty frequently; this is on a pretty clean/lean system with no anti-virus or other programs running in the background. 4GB is pretty bad if you have a lot of browser tabs.
     
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    Agreed. 4 GB is pretty much ridiculous in this day and age, as is 128 GB. Samsung should know better.
     
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    Must admit if the ZBI came out tomorrow i'd be considering that instead of the B9+ because It's going to be a more powerful machine in some aspects from a paper perspective atleast!....

    Pros for B9+:
    - Higher resolution (3200x1800)

    Pros for ZBI:
    - 28W i7 CPU (the B9+ is using half of that power for it's cpu)
    - as a result of that increased power is the GT3 5100 Iris graphics

    Probable pros (IMHO) for ZBI:
    - better design/looks/feel
    - probably a stronger laptop, it's thicker
    - bang and olfusen audio, not sure if that is any good though, supposed to be premium
    - lower resolution screen x better gpu = better graphic performance at native res
    - it's a ASUS, i like asus.

    IMHO Pros for B9+
    - see android phone on desktop with slidesync. (but there's ways you could do this with any other brand so......)


    I believe the ZBI will definately be much more expensive though. I expect that one might cost around $2500 usd.
    I think it's expected to debut with high-end specs including a 512GB SSD.

    At this poiint in time, i think much can change with the ZBI. They might be using an internal PCIe SSD in it instead of a SATA interface.
     
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    Do you guys think that it will be possible to change the ram and/or the ssd in the B9+? (Have it been possibly in other computers of this series?)
     
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    For the 13", in the past SSD is upgradeable on your own, but memory is not (onboard).
     
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    You could drive yourself crazy playing this game. At the end of the day, the ATIV book 9 plus exists here, now, today. And I personally think the form factor of the Book 9 plus is pretty exquisite. The Zenbook infinity is nothing more than specs on paper/online. And what are we talking about here, a potential 800-1600 price difference. If you have the time to wait then wait but I can almost guarantee when the Zenbook infinity finally does arrive you will be faced with the same choice with a bigger better product announced by someone else right around the corner (ATIV Q perhaps...)
     
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    Those of you whom have upgraded RAM on prior series 9's, how difficult was the process? Any problems with the computer after the upgrade was completed? I have noticed multiple complaints about the RAM and SSD which is a concern for me as well. Any insight as to why companies continue to release these base models esp on their premium machines?
     
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    My thoughts exactly. I am also thinking about the Zenbook Infinity but like what you said, if we were to continue waiting forever, we will never be satisfied cause new products are always coming out before we even know it. The moment we buy a new laptop, it's already outdated. Now we only have a few Haswell laptops and USB 3.0, but there's already talk of Broadwell and USB 3.1 and that is even before all the Haswell laptops are released. It's really a never-ending catch up game. So conflicted.
     
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    Let's not forget that Zenbook Infinity in that configuration (with 28W CPU) will have worse battery life. Though, it is supposed to come with the same i5-4200U and i7-4500U just like AB9+ (and i7-4558u is probably going to be market specific, comes even later, etc) .

    Since there's still some confusion, let me shout this out: you can't upgrade RAM (on previous Ativ Book 9 series, unlikely to change with AB9+). You can upgrade the SSD, though

    I wonder if the reworked battery estimate and weight on the official specs page means that the weight is indeed back to what it was, which means that battery life suffers. All the other dimensions are different. I would gladly pay for a bit more weight and official 9h battery (so I can realistically get 6h out of it).
     
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    True enough. However, I have relatively "modest" requirements of my next laptop:
    - 12-13" high ppi screen (yeah, I am a sucker, but I've loved it forever, and all my laptops in the years past have been the highest ppi one could buy)
    - 8gb RAM
    - 256GB SSD
    - lightweight (defined as under 1.5kg, which is what my 2009 Vaio Z weighs)
    - decent keyboard
    - 6h+ battery life
    - no Apple (as a Free Software lover and contributor, I don't want to pay either Apple or Microsoft taxes on my computers; yes, MacBook Pro Retina 13 has been very tempting)
    - bonus: DP for connecting my Dell U2710 to it
    - bonus 2: docking station
    - bonus 3: WWAN
    - bonus 4: 10h+ battery life or extra large (or sheet) batteries (for those long-haul flights across the Atlantic or Asia)

    After the Vaio Z, nothing seems to be coming out that has all of these (and it beats me as to why), so I am basically accepting that bonuses will have to be scrapped off if I am to buy a laptop anytime soon. Or perhaps go for one of the Lenovo's, but they always lag in screen quality.
     
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    The original NP900X3A had two RAM slots, as does the larger NP900X4C. I'm 99.999% sure that the Book 9 Plus will use soldered RAM. Otherwise it would be too easy for Samsung to provide the 8GB RAM that may people want.

    I think the reduction in the advertised battery run time is caused by the use of Mobilemark 2012, which is a much more demanding test than Samsung used previously. It should be possible for frugal users to exceed the advertised run time.

    John
     
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    The AB9+ seems to have it all:

    i7/8gb/256ssd
    6hr+ battery life
    nice design
    thin and light

    Just need to wait for reviews before taking the plunge.
     
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    Where is this thing u speak of?

    Sent from a different Galaxy using Tapatalk 2.
     
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