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    Samsung ATIV Book 9 Plus - NP940X3G

    Discussion in 'Samsung' started by droyder, Jun 20, 2013.

  1. Dannemand

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    Sorry, John, we can't have sexy photos posted on the site. It's against forum rules :D
     
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    Haha..yeah, not my definition of sexy either. Apple and Asus might be deemed sexy, but not that.
     
  3. Don1

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    How can you base your info on what a store is posting when Samsung hasn't posted specs themselves? By your standard then you can say it also has an apple a4 processor because Amazon says it does.
     
  4. Boose

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    That's the one. I actually like it a lot, at least compared to the one shown in THIS unboxing video. Please refer to 1:40 to see the different brick this guy got with his ATIV 9. I'm still confused as to why they would have changed bricks. Thanks for helping out.
     
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    this battery is like 55wh, right? And the s7 is 47. So why does the s7 get 7 hours (confirmed by people) and the ativ book 9 plus get 11-12?

    I guess it's possible, though, because the ivy version of the s7 was 3h, and the series 9 was about 6.

    jcarrz1
     
  6. Don1

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    Samsung's own site says both are touch. Are they wrong?

    Browse & Compare Laptop, All-In-One and Tablet Computers: Reviews and Prices
     
  7. John Ratsey

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    The PSU in that video looks like the 40W unit included with the netbooks (except it needs to have a smaller plug). The boxy one is actually less volume and lighter than the slab-shaped one which needs a lot more plastic casing.

    I think people could get up to 7 hours from the X3C with its 44Whr battery. The 9 Plus has 25% more battery capacity and Haswell probably gives around 20% improvement when under light usage.

    John
     
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    The difference between NP940X3G-K03DE and NP940X3G-K01DE on THIS german website is the windows version (win8 vs win8 PRO).
    Probably one more chapter in the never ending series of speculations that eventually may all not get it right.
     
  11. jk1982

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    According to the Samsung site, the Book 9 Plus comes with FHD, but that QHD is available "depending on windows version." Samsung ATIV Book 9 Plus - Superior performance in craftmanship design legacy

    It may be that the K01US is FHD with Windows Home and the K03US is QHD with Windows Pro. Would also explain the wide disparity in prices on various websites. One is just significantly better than the other.
     
  12. Don1

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    Click on each and they both say they come with QHD. They actually say it without even clicking on them.

    http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/pcs/all-products
     
  13. jk1982

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    That's a good point. I am curious about the statement on Samsung's website though. Another user on the forum grabbed a screen shot of what it used to say, and it did not contain this qualification ( http://i.imgur.com/y0c742r.jpg). It's strange that each model in the link you posted shows a QHD screen, yet the page I posted above essentially says the standard will be FHD, and that QHD may be available depending of OS.

    On a related note, I called Adorama and the representative I spoke to insisted that the Book 9 Plus will be released early August and that their $1,398 price was "absolutely accurate."
     
  14. jcarrz1

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    That adorama is good news, but it's not always good to trust a salesperson. I want it to be true though.

    If they announce it officially on the same schedule as the Ativ book 9 lite (official July 15 and on sale the 28), we should be hearing soon (7-10 days) about availability if they're going to release it in the first halfof august.

    Jcarrz1
     
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    Agree that it should be taken with a grain of salt, but the person seemed pretty confident. That, along with the fact that the Amazon listing (which shows that it is "shipped and sold" from Amazon) is $1,399, makes me hopeful.
     
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    With regard to the speculation that you'll have to get the i7 to get 8g ram...

    Does samsung historically do self-configurable PCs? Like sony/apple both charge $100 to up from 4-8 gigs on their models (new MBA, Vaio Pro 13)

    If not, I really hope the K02US is an 8g i5 or something... or that the i7 is well-priced. I CAN'T use this computer for 4 years with only 4g of ram...
     
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    Apparently a Russian website got a review unit. Can't conclude much of it since I don't speak Russian but battery life is disappointing. I hope this is a pre-production unit.
     
  18. jcarrz1

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    there's no way this has worse battery than the UX31A. (see chart)

    I was able to make it through the review with google translate. The screen is excellent, 3.75 DeltaE.

    They said battery was 7.1h max possible and 2.1h fastest drain possible.
    Their comparitive figures for the Sony Vaio Pro 13 were 6.75 and 2.0
     
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    Article confirms what many have already assumed...scaling is a serious issue. That said, they couldn't install Windows 8.1 on it for whatever reason.

    What's most concerning/surprising is the battery life. It barely beats the Vaio Pro 13, which suggests that, if the $1399 price is true, Samsung is asking users to pay a $150 premium for a screen that only power users (who probably don't want a 13" laptop) would want. That and some build quality. Beautiful laptop, but I think this is a miss and not a great buy value-wise.
     
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    Unable to upgrade to Windows 8.1 Preview
    Sorry. we were not able to complete the upgrade to Windows 8.1 Preview. We have restored
    the previous version of Windows on this computer.
    0xC1900101 - 0x20017

    I'm very proud that OCR+Google Translate+minor corrections yielded this, based on the image 07d3d22bd112e1534a4247599f7c.jpg
     
  21. John Ratsey

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    There are currently no production units listed in SW Update's database, either for Russia or anywhere else. In fact, there's currently no trace of the NP940X3G in the database which is a change from being there but without any software / drivers. Perhaps it will shortly reappear complete with the software / drivers.

    John
     
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    Unfortunately not. And the versions available often vary by region. So maybe there will be 3?
    i5/4GB/128GB
    i5/4GB/256GB/W8Pro
    i7/8GB/512GB $$$$$
     
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    This wait is killing me. Sony Vaio Pro is looking better and better. I don't like the carbon fiber and the battery life though. There's no sign of Asus Zenbook Infinity too.
     
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    In regards to the Russian article's battery life test... he DID say that he had a pre-production model. He wasn't even able to get the 11 hours quoted on the Samsung website. Usually you can get the max battery life on minimum settings, and he didn't even get close, so I'm not sure he has a "real" model.
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised if that Infinity isn't $2400 or more.
     
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    You know something is overpriced when Apple has a better price. $2400 = DOA.
     
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    They already sell that zenbook UX51VZ-XB71 for $2500 and I think this might be even better.
     
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    Good. I missed that. Samsung hasn't been known to lie that badly about battery. I hope we're not back to the days where laptop manufacturers say it has 6 hours and it gets 3 ( everyone in 2008 )
     
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    I am only hoping the delay is for them to introduce miniDP port instead of that miniVGA, but I suspect the blocker is that HD4400 can't drive two screens at big resolutions (I would personally use only one: either internal or external 27").

    However, it seems I am in the longer wait for Zenbook Infinity or perhaps it's time to check out Acer S7.
     
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    The s7 looks quite good - im looking into that.. The wait for a new rmbp/ativ9 is just too long!
     
  31. Danilo

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    That's not true: Apple sells a higher volume so can negotiate better prices from factories. For anything with better components, other system builders are going to charge higher prices. I've been buying more expensive computers since 2009 because they were better (Sony Vaio Zs) - I wouldn't mind paying less, and I always considered MacBooks only because they were slightly cheaper.
     
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    Asus and Acer can try to be premium as much as they want, but until they focus on consistent build quality, I have no idea why anyone would pay a premium price. That said, I doubt their entry level models (128GB i5 as opposed to the i7qm 512GB model referenced) will be more than $1400. Of course, when you add an i7 and 512GB it will be more. I don't think there is much of a price difference on most components, intel chips may be an exception, but I'm not sure.
     
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    all of the quotes for 1399 have 4g of ram. Acer's low-end model has 8. Samsung should copy them and give everyone 8. It's impossible to buy the newest Acer S7 with 4g of ram.
     
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    Is it bad that memory gets 5.9? could this mean that it's the single/dual channel issue that previous series 9's had?

    (this is from a review of ativ q, assuming that the book 9 plus has the same ram)

    Screenshot from 2013-07-26 18:02:37.png
     
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    Sorry, I misread what you said..I thought you were talking about price.
     
  39. John Ratsey

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    My table here suggests that WEI gives 5.9 for 4 GB RAM whether single or dual channel. WEI gives more than 4GB RAM a higher score.

    John
     
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    It's only available in Japan, but I doubt it is impossible to get one outside Japan! :) (i.e.: have someone ship it to you from Japan, and you install install an English OS). Anyway, even if no-one does this, it is still nice to have an additional option in case all alternatives have some no-go, like screen bleeding or high reported failure rates etc. No-one from Japan reading here? :)
     
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    Well, I gave up waiting and ordered a Dell XPS 12. It's a little heavier and has a slightly smaller screen, but it's built like a tank and the tablet gimmick is really fun for videos and books. I've got a month to return it if the 9 plus turns out to be amazing. I think if Samsung could've got the 9 plus to market just a little faster, they would have had a sale out of me.
     
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    I'm about to jump on that boat. I'm starting graduate school and need a new computer. I have until the end of August so I'll keep waiting just a bit longer. If not the AB9P, hopefully others will be announced/released.
    Really don't want to go the MBA route, but the lack of Haswell options is going to make me give it a look see.

    Sent from a different Galaxy using Tapatalk 2.
     
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    Just wondering how would the QHD benefit on such a small screen? Sounds more like a gimmick than actual practicality. I know that Samsung tends to market more gimmicks on newer devices such as the S4.
     
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    In this case, they're trying to match the gimmick introduced by apple. But I agree, it's of little practical use and probably results in unnecessary power drain.
     
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    I'm fine w the FHD. Hoping they come out with a couple of models. FHD/8GB/256ssd/i7 haswell is what I'm hoping for. Tho I could probably do with an i5.

    Sent from a different Galaxy using Tapatalk 2.
     
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    The MBA with 256GB is a bargain at under $1250. I have an 11.6 inch that is a couple of years old but is still great. If apple had been smart enough to bump up the resolution to at least 1600x900 on either they would probably be selling a lot more of them than they currently are.
     
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    It's great if you stay in windows 8 metro and out of desktop mode. There you can scale it to pretty much any size you want and maintain extreme clarity. In 8.1 it is supposedly even better.
     
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    I'd just like to see just a color gamut boost on the Macbook Air displays. Despite the good contrast and whatnot, the ~45% gamut they've got right now leaves something noticeable to be desired in terms of saturation. Particularly compared with the other Macbooks' displays. You can go another year of product segmentation between the Air 13 and Retina Pro 13, Apple, but at least address this in the meantime.
     
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