Samsung Series 7 Gamer NP700G7C with AMD Radeon HD 7970M/Geforce GTX 675M

Will I tried everything I could. Even tried the GTX 580M drivers. (Which I read somewhere to try. It was the same download as the 675M but I thought i'd still try it. Either 3D vision just isn't supported on the laptop, or my monitor the the Mobile drivers aren't compatible yet. Let me know if the 3D kit will work and we can go from there. If it doesn't work, I think we should all write to Samsung saying that they need to release a driver update or something as there is NO reason you couldn't game in 3D on this laptop. The screen supports 120Hz, the gpu is 3D capable. Ugh. Wait on your kit to come and go from there. I'll just be doing my 3D gaming on my tower for now. (The GTX 550 ti I have itsn't as powerful as the 675M gtx but I'm home for now and have no need to use the laptop. I'll just use it for re-encoding videos and stuff and as a second gamer machine for now.) We'll go from there on the kit once it's been tried out. Oh well.

 

Actually to use HDMI at 120Hz you need a HDMI 1.4 certified cable, I think this is 1.4a for the version on our boards. Older HDMI cables, Especially with the emitter, will not like the bandwidth required. Other issue is being able to run both screens at 120 Hz and in 3D. I think you will need to have it just use the desktop monitor with its emitter. Using a kit is just the laptop monitor and the IR so it stands a better chance of working.

I am wondering if we get the Samsung BT glasses if then apps like a 3D bluray player can use the 3d screen? Ours is the same 3d screen used in the older 6970 driven G7A? From what I've seen those original included glasses were the same once sued on the Samsung BT 2011-2012 TV's too.

 

So would this cable work?

Amazon.com: BlueRigger High speed HDMI cable with Ethernet 6 Feet (2m) - Supports 3D and Audio return [Latest Version]: Electronics

or

http://www.amazon.com/Cheetah-compa...id=1349744050&sr=1-24&keywords=hdmi+1.4+cable

I prefer the second one as it's a 10ft.

 

I think either would work as they are listed as high speed/ethernet and audio return. The first one though may only be a HDMI 1.3 catagory 2 not 1.4 certified.

Edit; cut from your link "•Built-in NVIDIA 3D Vision emitter delivers support for HDMI 1.4a 3D devices (PS3, Blu-Ray 3D players, set-top boxes)". This means without the 1.4 HDMI your emitter probably does not work properly if at all.

 

Ok so it looks like I need either an hdmi 1.4 cable, or dvi dual link, which the laptop doesn't have. HDMI 1.4 it is. I'll order one very soon.

I say DVI Dual link because that is what I am using right now on the desktop and 3D and such works fine. Unless there is a diesplay port to dual link dvi adapter. (Which I think the laptop has display port.) I'm kinda stuck with the 1.4HDMI cable. (Also it's pretty cheap. lol)

 

If memory serves then 1.4 high speed is HDMI version of dual link. So it should be fine so long as the monitor supports the emitter via HDMI. This can be akin to HDMI 1.3 catagory 2 should support 2560x1600 resolution but most monitors only support it via DVI dual linmk or display port. We can gave all the standards in the PC we wish but we are still at the mercy of the OEM's.............

Edit; another example is Samsung itself. Their TV's are 3D capable with glasses similar to the G7a. Our screen is the same as the G7a's. So you would have thought we would have a 3D opion, at least for movies. I say for movies as the Samsung glasses are BT and not IR. I am not sure of the implications against nVidia 3D vision. Then again Samsungs proprietary software for 3D may have issues with nVidia drviers and sofware as well. I still am tempted to get a pair to see what can be enabled.

Edit 2; just got tridef trial software working. No glasses to test it with but in games it just kills the frame rates. Dirt 2 went from 53.3 minimum to 29.9 FPS, I do not think so. I just upgraded the system and wanted the better GPU for increased frame rates not to enable something that can drop frame rates to what I had before or worse................

 

Will I got a HDMI cable capable of 120HZ, 1080p, 3D. No go. It wouldn't even recognize my monitor as 120Hz. I'm starting to think I'll need to get a Display port to DVI adapter. As I know that works as the desktop works fine that way. Will the adapter work? By what you say, it should, but also as you said if it's not implemented then I'm stuck. Please whomever is getting the emitter and glasses let us know if it works for you as I may have to do the same if I want to 3D game.
Oh yeah the cable is going back asap as it's not really useful. I bought it pruely for this purpose and it didn't work. No sense in wasting money.

Thanks

Edit: Oh, yeah, I found supposive drivers for my monitor on Viewsonic's site, I even installed them. I tried everything over again. I'm surprised my 675 isn't going "Enough with this crap!"

 

Well, I got my 3D vision kit today, two days earlier than expected.
I got some bad news for you all. I'll be making a rage video tomorrow on YouTube lol.
The good news is, that this laptop is capable. Nvidia simply hasn't gotten around to officially supporting it's display yet. If we all band together and send a message to nvidia, they'll add 3D vision support to this laptop.
Details will be posted tomorrow (well, today actually, since its 2:54am eastern time as I'm posting this) on my YouTube channel.
Urmombentover

 

Can't believe this laptop doesn't support 120hz yet. Nvidia is dragging hard. Anybody know what software they are using for the blu-ray player. I'm thinking about pirating cyberlink pro DVD 12, but scared of all the trojans. Ever since I installed Windows 7 Ultimate 64x bit clean, i've been having a hard time trying to find a blu-ray software that's basically free.

 

Yeah, we should band together. I've already contacted nvidia about my issue, and finally heard back from them. They suggested to re-install the drivers and such. But I really believe it's a driver/ software issue and not a hardware issue. The display does use 120Hz, and if you have everything else why shouldn't it work? I can post my contact so far if anyone wants to see it. Though there hasn't been much in the way of progress. I told them what I tried and such and now waiting to hear back from them.

 

Unfortunately the progress would be just to get it to work. Pretty much 3D is either on or off no real it is getting better or closer. Seeing the frame rate drops I am not too disappointed it is off. all the demo's at stores that I have seen it is a strain on my eyes to watch in 3D.

 

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I used to think I got eye strain, but it doesn't happen as I thought. The demo's are not setup for a personal viewing. They are set up in general. Once You've gotten comfortable and have the 3D setup properly it's actually quite nice. I actually love to play in 3D now. Wishing the laptop supported it. As you said it could be on or off. For those who has eye strain from it can turn it off. It's right there in the Nvidia Control panel. You can do an override and turn 3D completely off. But it should be a feature. The computer is capable of it. As for fps, I play alot of my games in 3D on "High" or even "Ultra" and at 1080p on a GTX 550 ti (which isn't as powerful as the GTX 675M) and I have nothing to complain about. As long as it can maintain a 30fps or higher it still looks good to me. In fact the only game that gives me issues on my GTX 550 ti is Minecraft. For some reason I see fps drops like the dickens in redstone heavy areas. (no 3D options) I think it may be driver issues and some issues with Java since I give it 4GB ram. The laptop's gpu also can drop fps in the same ares the GTX 550 ti does. Though it's not as noticable since the GTX 675M is more powerful.

Anyhow the only complaint I have right now is that I can't use my Logitech G930 wireless 7.1 headset and the 3D glasses very will as the headset has no room whatsoever for the 3D glasses. It's not like unbearably bad. I can game for about an hour or so. But it is a little uncomfortable. I had this issue with the wired G35 version as will. That's more of an issue with Logitech. They designed the headset for the masses of pc gamers not the fewer 3D pc gamers.

3D gaming is fun and I really wish the laptop can/could do it. Does it mean bye bye laptop? No, not really, but I am disappointed that Samsung and Nvidia didn't give the consumer the choice of having 3D or not.

 

why do you have a problem with 3d? i just connected my laptop to my 42 inches 3d tv and watched a 3d film via bluray

 

screen on the laptop is 120 hz but it is not 3d but i can connect it to my tv and watch films and play 3d games. By the way tall enter key is the best much easier to press. Different layout because it is a "turkish keyboard" look at these letters on the left of the enter key "ğ, ü, İ, ş, ç, ö"

 

Actually it is 3d capable. It is the same screen used on the NP700G7A and with the 6970 and Samsung 3D glasses that then becomes a 3D system...........

Edit; it uses Tridef on the np700g7a for 3D. Maybe this is what is needed to get 3D from the screen now too. I tried the trial and it does look to display 3D I just do not have glasses..................

 

IDK why mine isn't working. Maybe the wrong cable, though I was told the cable SHOULD work. I'm gonna try to get a Displayport to DVI adapter. As from what Nvidia told me, between the monitor I have and the laptop, the monitor doesn't like the HDMI as well appearently. I have been reading that on other's reviews for my monitor as well. Since I know the DVI works in 3D that is the next logical test. As soon as my adapter comes I will give it a go.

 

@dragonwolf Are you sure your cable is HDMI 1.4 and not 1.3?

 

What is the difference? I would suspect the contact arrangement is the same. Did they start using unused contact points?

 

From the linked source.................

HDMI - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

As Tanware said, you can only get 3D using HDMI 1.4. HDMI 1.3 doesn't support 3D connections



Is there anything else I could ask for?

 

I'm gonna try with my Desktop, since I KNOW 3D works on it. I never really thought of that. So concentrated on the Laptop I didn't think that I could try THE CABLE on the desktop to see if it's the CABLE that's not right. (It's also hard since the gpu I had had a Mini HDMI and not regular size, now I upgraded my desktop to a GTX 660 ti and it has regular HDMI. Despite the fact I was told it's for what I wanted.) I'll get back soon. (I'm so stupid for not thinking that, ugh.) OK, maybe not stupid, that's why we are on here. In case one of use doesn't think of something, everyone else can help. Be back with my findings soon.

Edit: It IS the cable. The settings would not allow for 120Hz at 1080p 3D. Nvidia control panel had HD 3D and 1080p was a setting, but the Hz was locked at 24Hz? So while the cable supports 3D it's for Blu-ray and tv's NOT pc. So the cable is not 1.4, if it was it would have worked.

 

Even with a 1.4 cable, HDMI will only support 3D at 1080p at 24Hz or 720p at 60Hz. It's a limit of the HDMI standard at this time.

 

Ok so pretty much I'd need Display Port or DVI? Would a Display Port to DVI adapter work then? Maybe someone could link me an adapter from Newegg or Amazon? That would be wonderful! As I see all kinds of adapters, but am unsure as to what will work.

 

I think we only have a single mode display port, not dual mode so you may need to get an active addapter not passive. This is unfamiliar territory for me though. The symbol on our machines though is definately not dual mode display port...............

 

So are there any more updates as to getting a 7970 in this thing, or are we stuck with a 675m still? I'm ok with the 675m for now, but I'm definitely going to want to toss a 7970 in this some time next year as the horsepower req's for games increases.

Plus, this laptop still boasts one of the most stunning displays I've ever viewed on a laptop. I have a Samsung 1080p plasma TV and this laptop is easily as gorgeous, if not more so.

 

The 7970m is not happening any time soon if at all. as mentioned in a few other threads the vbios is integrated with the primary bios. Unless along with the boards a new bios, and methiod to get the bios installed, a board that fits will be of little use. Then of course there is thde matter of a proper board too.

I Had picked up a pair of ssg-m3550cr glasses but they definately do not synch with the BT. I noticed though with the UK NP700G7A they were being sold with a ssg-m3750cr and the only place on line I could find them other than fleabay is B&H Photo so I have ordered a pair to see if they can synch to a PC. Link below shows the glasses package...................

http://www.samsunglaptop.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=NP700G7A-S02UK

 

Having one of these laptops delivered tomorrow. I had a look at the service manual that was posted a few threads back and saw that there is a seperate pcb board labelled as 3D BT dongle connected with a small cable to the mainboard inside the laptop.
I bet this module is only fitted into the 700G7A S02 model. I will check when i get laptop as i have the glasses from a samsung TV.

If anyboady out there does have the 700G7A S02 model it might be worth checking if the dongle shows up in device manager.

 

Ok that then is a 6970m. That would stink if a seperate internal proprietary dongle is used for the BT of the glasses. From what I've gathered nvidia and samsung have no interest inn supporting the others 3D so between video cards, glasses, software and monitors there can be so real issues that may never see resolution.

Would you have a link to the card though?

Edit; I just went through the manual and yes there is a proprietary BT dongle. It connects though to thee main board and not the GPU board. You ca see it if you remove the keyboard. The problem with mine though is the header for the dongle is not even soldered to the main board, let alone the dongle being there. So it may be we are screwed with getting the Samsung glasses to work with the laptop itself but I will still try and see as they are on their way..................

 

No connector on the motherboard, can't see ever getting the samsung glasses working then without modding/changing the motherboard and having the parts for starters. Then issues with BIOS, drivers, etc make it a non-starter for me.


Going to see if i can get 3D vision installed and see if cyberlink DVD will output bluray 3D, If so might look at getting the nvidia 3d glasses and giving them a go in the future.

 

Right, for those without the manual. Actually the NP700G7A-S02UK was the 3D model I think it was the S01UK that did not include the glasses but in the manual is says it can be added later (huge grain of salt needed for that one.)..............................

 

need help anyone? is anyone having a problem with their GPU overheating at idle temps? my GPU idle temperature is 55-60C, however, when I unplug the power cord. The temperature idle's about 40-45C. Is there a problem with my battery? Is there anything i can do power management wise.

 

Well, I went for the Samsung in the end, and I'm really glad I did. It's a beautiful machine - great quality, great keyboard, amazing screen. I figured out that Windows 7 caps refresh rate at 60hz by default, but changing it to 120hz is easy. And no more headaches working on the screen all day.

I have one weird problem, though. When I unplug the machine to go on battery power, the display switches off. It comes back on again when I replug. Sometimes it switches off even when I'm on AC power, when I switch between modes. Sometimes even battery power allows me to use gaming mode.

Anyone else have this? I've made sure all my power settings are set for the display to only switch off after several minutes, so it's not that. But on Control Panel/System and Security/Power Options, in the left-hand, blue bar, at the bottom, it says: '@C:\Program Files\P4G\BatteryLife.exe,-104' (I've typed that exactly - the comma is there). It's a link - when I click it, an error message comes up saying that Windows cannot find it. A Windows search brings up nothing. Could that be the source of the problem? I thought P4G was an Asus program...I've certainly never seen this before.

Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks.

 

120 Hz requires the screen brightness be up to at least the top two levels. Any lower and it will black out the screen. Unfortunately this will eat into battery life. This is why I would have liked an option for one additional step in the highest brightness that would actually allow for full brightness plus switch over from 60 to 120 Hz and visa versa. This natively would have allowed for better power consumption plans and eliminate the 120 Hz trying to run at low brightness.

Edit; A nice little app that sits in the tray is at HRC – HotKey Resolution Changer | funk.eu...hey, it's just me... , you can just use 2 profiles for the seperate refresh rates and two hot keys.

 

Perfect! Thank you so much.

:thumbsup:

+1 rep (just figured out how to do that)

 

does the laptop intake air from the right and blow the hot air from the left?

 

from the bottom and out the back.

The SSG-M3750CR glasses came in. They are listed as the "Syncmaster" version so they appear to be the correct glasses for the NP700G7A. Now I would wonder if the internal dongle for a Samsung Syncmaster would work for our systems if we had a header. Even if a header were there though some other electronics may be missing to get the dongle working.

 

It's because your laptop switches from normal mode to power saving mode, aka getting brightness to minimum. And if you are in 120Hz, that'll always happen. As soon as you get 60Hz, it'll be fixed

 

It takes from the bottom, and it goes out of the back. The left is the GPU fan and the right is the CPU fan.

 

Is there a model with the 7970M? I mean I've heard they were going to actually downgrade to the 7870M, which sounds a little absurd...as it's no faster than the 6970M of olden times.

If there's a 7970M model, that'd be something I might be interested for a next machine. THe CPU is the main issue I face at the moment. Matching the GPU wouldn't be that big of a deal because I can overclock at that point.

 

We did not get the top end nVidia card so it stands to reason we would not see the top end AMD card as well with the Intel third gen platform. This may also be a way of keeping costs down so that the 3D option can yet again be offered. I don't know if it will make it to the US though. If you look at the NP700G7A there doesn't seem to have been a US model..........................

 

Hey guys

In the UK PCWORLD/CURRYS has reduced the price of this laptop from £1699 to £999 (-£700)

It's of the GTX675 version though.

SAMSUNG Series 7 NP700G7C 17.3" Laptop

I'm thinking about it, so I got a question:

Can anyone tell me if it's possible to switch graphical modes? i.e. When I'm leaving the laptop on for periods of time I would like to disable my GPU and go to the INTEL HD 4000 one instead. Just a thought, I always liked the idea of setting the machine into a low power state where possible.

I know the CPU will round itself down 1.2ghz when idle so ...

 

unfortunately the optimus is disabled on these. The nVidia is always on with no device available for the Intel IGP. This is bad for battery but good for gamers not having to deal with optimus..........................

For those wanting a 7870m, I don't think by default this is a 3D model though...................

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834131391&name=Laptops-Notebooks

 

Yeh I heard with optimus sometimes games fail to switch over to the dedicated card or something?

Oh well, it just means it'll be on. I just hope the fan isn't on full time then considering I got my own cooling pad that I like to use (and it elevates the laptop, making it easier for me to type/use).

Thanks for your information.

EDIT:

2 quick things, does the 2 fans inside this laptop suck air from the bottom? I know most do but I want to triple check!

And ... is it hard to remove 1 of the HDs inside it and replace it with a SSD? Basically I was assuming that a recovery partition would be on one of the drives, how would I even identify which one is which?

 

could've been much better if the right was gpu and left is cpu. Because wasd area gets pretty hot.

 

during normal use the GPU stays pretty cool as the GPU and video memory down clock with powermizer. While gaming the GPU can generate quite a bit of heat. Also the fan can run quite hard while gaming but rarely durring idle. As mentioned both fans pull from the bottom.

Edit; since the release of the new NP700G7A with the 7870m has the new 3630QM I wonder too then if the new systems with the 675M or 675mx refresh would have the 3630QM as well. loks like I purchased just a bit too soon.....................

 

in terms of cooling which gpu is better? the green guy or ati?

 

Interesting, amazon also is listing the NP700G7C-T01US but also a new version of the current Series 7 Gamer, it's called the NP700G7C-S02US, the odd thing is that they list the graphic card as NVIDIA GTX 660M, but in the description it says GX 675M, which doesn't correspond to any graphic card on the market right now.

For me, this is the new revision of the original NP700G7C-S01US, and I believe the graphic card will be the GTX 670MX?

Anyways, here I left the links:

Amazon.com: Samsung Series 7 Gamer NP700G7C-T01US 17.3-Inch Laptop (Yellow): Computers & Accessories

Amazon.com: Samsung Series 7 Gamer NP700G7C-S02US 17.3-Inch Laptop (Black): Computers & Accessories

Both have schedule release date of October 26th.

Edit: Samsung has it listed on their US webpage, and the only upgrade is the processor, the graphic card remains the same, NVIDIA GTX 675M.

http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/laptops/NP700G7C-S02US-specs

Samsung, are u thinking?

 

At only 0.1 GHz speed increase I don't think any major premium is justified. The NP700GC-S01us can be had for 1,750 or less so at 1,899 or $149 USD more it is not worth it. Now if it had the BT dongle that might be a different story........................

Edit; this say's the T is the "Yellow" http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-NP700...TF8&qid=1350513476&sr=1-3&keywords=np700g7c-t

And Sumsung specs; http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/laptops/NP700G7C-T01US-specs

Edit 2; I think the S02 uses the old main board of the S01 as the express cache is still 8GB but the T01 has 16GB express cache so it may just be a later revision of the board. There is no reference of the BT dongle but if it were to appear in later models most likely it would be on the ATI equiped boards unless the unlikely event samsung was to give in to nVidia 3D vision over their own 3D. Take this with a huge grain of salt as this is all IMHO..................

Edit 3; Wow per NBCheck it is 20% slower for the 7870m over the GTX 675 in 3dMark11...............
http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-7870M.73856.0.html

 

That's true, I can't justify the US $230 premium over the current model. You can have it from B&H from $1679 I believe... Also, MSI has the GT70 0ND-202US with almost same performance (4GB RAM less and blu-ray) for 1399,99 and you can have 100 MIR.

I'd love to have the AMD version, even if it's the 7870m yellow but for 1600 bucks, I think not.

 

I got 3dmark11 P4037 with the free version. I have 3DMark vantage registered and get 17637 total 16052 for the GPU and 25063 for the CPU portions. Ran 3DMark06 and 24060 was the score at 1280x1024. Agreed though these are overclocked scores..............

Edit; My OC is 700/1700

Edit 2; With the MSI the problems, for me at least, are;
Primary Reasons
1.) I wanted 120Hz screen, I spend countless hours and love the lower eye strain.
2.) better audio, everyone praises this for a laptop and after hearing a G75 it scared me how bad it can get.
3.) Display port, I would love to throw a 2560x1440 on a desk one day.
Secondary Reasons
4.) I would have liked eSata but with USB 3.0 I can live without.
5.) BR player, though I also opted for a BR burner
6.) 16GB Ram, One less thing to add in.
7.) extra 750GB drive, never hurts to be able to take the original HDD with all software etc and put it on the side.

I had considered MSI as a cheaper alternative but the Samsung at the higher cost won at the end of the day.....................