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    Samsung Series 7 Gamer NP700G7C with AMD Radeon HD 7970M/Geforce GTX 675M

    Discussion in 'Samsung' started by yknyong1, Mar 30, 2012.

  1. vesayreve

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    I have overclocked a few times like a year ago and i hadnt oc'ed since then. I have latest WHQL drivers. I dont even have OC tools installed right now. Why am I having this error?
     
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    When did this error start happening, you said from time to time? If this has been happening since new then it could be a faulty system. Although it is rare, just one bad overclock can ruin a system. This usually happens where someone overclocks to the point of system failure. I don't think this is your issue but something to consider.
     
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    I remember OC'ing to 700 MHz and memory was still stock to benchmark and i played witcher 2 with that clocks for some time but it never happened at that time. It happens rarely. It started to happen a few months ago? It is not very important but its there.
     
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    TBH since I am not a gamer, and you said this is rare, I may have your same issue but I do not use it enough to experience it. With it being rare some other heavier gamer will have to answer the questions for you. Only advice I can give is even though at stock clocks you may still want to consider MSI afterburner. There is keeping forced voltages up along with a few other compatibility options as well.
     
  5. Infobits

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    I was using a fly swatter to swipe at mosquitoes around me and I accidentally swiped and hit a key on my keyboard. Somehow it caught the key and cracked it off!
    I had broken the key cap off where it cracked and would not click back on, on my NP700-G7Cus laptop.
    I found this site that sells replacement keys for all sorts of brands and keyboards.

    Replacement Laptop Keys | Laptop Key replacement, Acer, Dell, Compaq, HP, Sony

    I bought the replacement key from them and it was a perfect replacement key. But they are quite expensive with shipping. But if you must replace a key, then you'd pay for it. It's up to you.
    If you can find an alternative method to obtain key caps (like from someone selling an old keyboard part) then that may be the best way to go. The new key cap comes with all the under lying mounting parts that go into installing a brand new working key.
     
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    Hi, when I bought my NP700-G7Cus new last year from newegg.com, it had a slight bright whitish bleed through spot on the dark black screen during boot up. The white bleed through spot was located just slightly right of center and slightly up from center cooridinates. I was concerned that it was a defect but did not want to hassle with a return for replacement so I kept it. Recently the white light bleed through has become larger and spread to a circular pattern around the center of the screen. It also was becoming noticeable now on more colors as well as real bad on black screen backgrounds. When I ran dead pixel colored screen tests, I noticed that all the colored screens were not solid smooth colors but had square patterns visible on the whole screen. Anyway, I decided to try and contact Samsung support online and could not get support. My warranty period is expired anyway. I was just trying to find out how much it would cost to buy a new replacement screen. I think they were charging in the neighborhood of $300+ (US) if you were to have them replace it! I said forget it. I searched and found another screen replacements seller that sells genuine Samsung screen replacements (both Glossy or Matte screens) and it was listed as costing $116.99 or so plus shipping. They are located in Canada and guaranteed to me that they sell only genuine OEM screens. So I ordered one at total cost with shipping of $132.50 USD. I have installed the new screen replacing my old screen and it is as good as new. Same exact replacement part, same glossy screen, same nice new brightness and no dead pixels anywhere! I am glad I fixed it. My laptop other than the screen failure defect has otherwise been reliable and trouble free even now running Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center OS installed. The screen replacement source I used is here:
    LAPTOP & TABLET LCD SCREEN Replacement

    I also just found another seller here:
    SAMSUNG OTHER SAMSUNG MODELS Nxx-xx REPLACEMENT LCD SCREEN

    Hope this helps some of you ever needing to replace your screen.
     
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    It is always great to have a parts source, especially if they have a 120 hz matte screen replacement as some prefer that too…
     
  8. vesayreve

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    Hi. Thank you for your answer but my screen is not defected. I was just being a fool. When you open the lid samsung led's on the cover are still on causing a green smoke under them but when those leds turn off then the smoke vanishes. I knew there was something like that because i had no issues with screen after that. So it was me being idiot :p sorry.
     
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    Why does Windows update, update Intel drivers as well? I am perfectly fine with older drivers. Newer drivers are completely broken and cause lag while playing online games and has drop-outs. How can i disable this? I hided the update on windows update but thats all?
     
  10. John Ratsey

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    I use the Let me choose option in the Windows Update settings.

    Windows Update Settings.jpg

    John
     
  11. Jodon

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    I just bought a NP700G7C-S01CA because it was on clearance (apparently the video card was bad and had been replaced). After toying with it, I decided I'd keep it and replaced the pre-installed Windows 7 with Windows 8.1. I've run the SWUpdate and installed everything including the newest GeForce drivers. The issue is now, every second time I reboot my machine, the 675M says it's not functioning because the device reported Error Code 43. What's funny is, if I reboot the machine again, it goes away and I can use the machine fine (for the most part). Every once in a while I'll get a video card error where the driver timeouts and the kernel recovers (every 4 hours or so). Has anyone run into this?

    I'm beginning to think it's a faulty video card (or motherboard which would explain why the video card had been thought to be bad and replaced). I did not pay attention to it close enough when I had Windows 7 installed, it's possible the same issue was present there and I hadn't used it enough. Unfortunately, I can't recover to the Windows 7 partition because it says Samsung Recovery 5 is incompatible and it cannot run. I've tried a lot of things to try and recover to no avail. I'm thinking of reinstalling a fresh Win7 just to double-check the error is hardware, unless any of you have experienced this issue?

    Thanks.
     
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    You can check the 8.1 upgrade thread to see if this particular problem has been reported. A few unlucky people have had their machines stuck in a boot loop.

    I would support your proposal to revert to Windows 7 to confirm whether the problem is hardware or software. If you did not reformat or repartition the HDD then you may find that you can enter Recovery mode by tapping the F4 key a few times immediately after starting the computer.

    John
     
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    I've had experienced a few times my NVidia error message pop up saying that it failed and restarted itself. I wonder if that is what you are seeing. I think you should try to install the latest NVidia driver update that Windows 8.1 might offer. BTW, I've seen that NVidia error message pop-up happen on Windows 7 and also on Windows 8.1 when I first updated to Windows 8.1. After which it offered an NVidia driver update and I applied it. Has not happened again.
    Also after upgrading to Windows 8.1 from windows 8, my wi-fi connections would not connect reliably and would drop on and off. Again, a new Intel Wi-Fi driver update install fixed that issue. I've had no hiccups what-so-ever since updating all these drivers.

    error code 43 I believe is a general error code point to a driver problem... since you noticed it in conjunction with the Nvidia errors, most likely your NVidia driver should be changed or updated to one that you find works. If its not the driver, then maybe you do have a bad Nvidia graphics hardware issue and should return it to the seller.
     
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    I've had my NP700G7C-S02UK almost a year now and for the last 5 months I've been having such issues, the screen going blank for 20 mins at a time and have to force restart to get it to work, so much so that I screwed up the HDD and had to get it replaced, the GPU drivers constantly crashing and being recovered, not being able to refresh windows 8, do windows updates or wipe the laptop clean with a restart

    I can say since I've updated to Windows 8.1 and I've not installed a single SW update from Samsung my laptop is working perfectly, I think Samsung have fudged the SW updates up, to the point I couldn't even do windows updates, I would restore my laptop to factory default settings do the updates and it would work without an issue, as soon as you install SW update it causes so many issues, so I would recommend anyone having this issue, restore your laptop and avoid SW updates

    However I do have one issue, me and my brother both have this laptop and I've noticed if I open the laptop and turn it on, on the right hand side of the screen close to the bottom I have a small circle of screen which is lighter then the rest of the screen, then the laptop boots and it vanishes, its almost impossible to take a picture but both me and my brother have the same issue in the same spot, anyone else have this at all? it also happens when you open the laptop screen when the laptop is still on, it happens just before the desktop loads up

    just to clarify I have installed SW updates on my laptop but I haven't installed anything made by Samsung, I just use it for wifi drivers, sound drivers etc etc
     
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    Sounds like you have the same brighter light spot on the screen during the dark screen part of the boot up as I did but in a different part of the screen. If you've seen my post about my particular situation, you will see what I described.
    My screen ultimately started getting real bad with that light bleed through all over the screen and I just went and replaced the screen. Now my laptop is good as new, bright defect free display. I got jipped by Samsung because mine came with the defective screen that way out of the box brand new. I just did not realize it would fail so bad in about a year's worth of daily constant use. Bad QC. If your symptom is really like mine, the screen will gradually get worse with usage and time and ultimately you will have to replace it.
     
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    Should we install intellimemory. Is it any good? I have 8 gigs of ram.
     
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    Intellimemory is a caching program besides Windows own cache. It is more of a memory hog in that since it is not internal it will show the memory usage. If over time you go to system resources and look at ram you will see the used ram and all the free ram gets used by windows but is available to programs. It seems the program monitors free ram and when more is required releases it.

    To me this then becomes the OS freeing ram and the program doing the same from within its reserved areas. To me this is a lot of extra work. This would only be useful if it is much more aggressive than Windows default cache and with a slower HDD rather than SSD. If you tend to use ram hungry applications it would be counter productive as well.

    FreeRam.jpg
     
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    So, do you say it is useless? I have a 7200 rpm hdd which was already in the laptop and no ssd. How can we know if it is more aggresive than Windows or not?
     
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    The programs aggressiveness I can not comment on. With the NP700G7C there is a 8GB iSSD cache for reading so to be honest there would be little to no benefit of Intellimemory IMHO. If the primary were a 5200 RPM drive and especially without an iSSD then I could see it................
     
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    I'm running win7 and Linux and have had the same problem for as long as I can remember. Just wishing I'd sent this pile of rubbish back earlier, awful quality and support for the price of it so it'll
    be my first and last Samsung laptop.
     
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    Sorry to hear of your issues. Mine has been fine since day zero. My only issues was the right front USB port but this was from the guys who changed out the CPU and never plugged the port back in. I of course got rid of as much of the bloat as possible and got a large SSD............
     
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    That is the problem i cannot use the issd because it flushes itself whenever i reboot. As far as i remember i could use it before i "upgraded" to windows 8 (not 8.1) So should i use it?
     
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    As I said earlier this is NOT an issue with the laptop itself. You can blame samsung for many reasons but not for that. That lightness is there because when you open the lid the samsung leds on the back are still operating and this causes a temporary visual distortion at that spot of the screen but then the leds go off and boom it vanishes. That is completely OK. I hope i explained myself well...
     
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    If you have a NDD for primary then Samsung's program Express Cache should be using the memory of the iSSD. I am not sure if like the old Windows Ready Boost the cache gets flushed per boot. I only booted once to the HDD and that was to try an image replacement to the SSD which failed..............
     
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    I didnt understand. You meant HDD for primary? Then yes I have 2x500 GB HDD's and 8 GB iSSD. I tried everything but there was no way i could make it work without flushing the entire iSSD after Windows 8 just one more of my regrets to "upgrading" to W8
     
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    I know there are a lot of issues with Win8 and Samsung Software. Yes typo as I meant HDD. Sorry can't help with enabling this on Win8 but others here might..........
     
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    Sadly no. I asked this a few times before this. Nobody seems to know anything about how to solve the issue.
     
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    Have you studied the ExpressCache thread?

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    A few dozen times, thank you :)
     
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    Myself no, again no real need here. If he were having issues with Win 7 then I would have looked it up as there I know the driver works properly and can address issues and screens and options to resolve the issue. Since With 8.0 and now 8.1 I am unfamiliar someone else would need to help out.

    Off topic but this is why I am upset with M$. I can't use Win 8.x as it is a UI that bothers me visually during usage and has features disabled that I want. Since I do not have it, and apparently a lot has changed with it for driver and software support, I can't provide help to anyone. Even if the data I could relay was pertinent I have no way of being sure it is so rather than guess I just do not provide any useful help.
     
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    The 8.1UI if you configure to go straight to the desktop isn't that much different. What UI elements bother you?
     
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    The desktop and no Aero Glass. The large flat bland borders severely distract my eyes. This was the last straw for me and Windows 8 when it went to RTM. They just pushed the changes too far and pushed the entire OS over the edge for me. I am sure this does not bother most but it makes the desktop unusable to me unless the apps are full window and I almost never use it that way. Same for Metro I really do not want full window but I can tolerate it with consumption. I am sure other were pushed over the edge for other reasons but so be it................
     
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    Maybe if you changed the window border colors. I have mine set to auto depending on the background image I'm using at the time and I kind of like the change when I switch up my background.
     
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    The problem was they were still bland even on auto, although it did help slightly with the contrast. Believe in I tried to like it just couldn't. The borders are to akin to having then screen flashing as no matter how hard I try my center of vision keeps getting drawn to the borders and when you are trying to read and keep place it is impossible. With Aero Glass the borders blend to the background and then there is that only to draw my eves away, admittedly that on occasion does too but because it is busier it does not as much.
     
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    YES! They might bring back start menu with 8.2! Thats awesome! I might finally enjoy windows 8!
     
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    Everything is a rumor right now. At one point it was rumored Windows 8 was going to be all great and powerful but then there was the RTM after the beta and that all went away. So I'll believe it only when I see it come to market with all wanted features working properly. I just do not trust them at all..............................
     
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    Me neither! But even the idea of having the start menu back is thrilling!

    Bringing back start button but making it only switch between metro ui and desktop was like an April's fool joke... I could hear Bill Gates shouting "Gotcha!"
     
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    Hey all

    Long time reader, first time poster.

    I have had this laptop for a good few months now and wondered if I could upgrade the MXM graphics from 675M to something like the 8970M. Is it a straight swap? Or do I have to consider also changing the heatsink? If so, what is the beat heatsink?

    Huge thanks in advance
     
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    Unfortunately no! The bios has the vbios imbedded in it. This means no booting with a mxm card. Now there could be some creative people who could hack in the vbios but then the odd shape of our cards may become an issue.......
     
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    Hopefully they give us the option of turning it off if they bring back the full start menu. I like not having it.
     
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    Ah that's a shame! I really wish to upgrade the graphics as BF4 struggles a bit
     
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    Of course you would do so at your own risk but if you do not already you may want to try overclocking slightly. The norm for the 675m is to have a good amount of room for clocks. Even a 10% overclock could get you over the humps for now. For myself I find the 700/1700 to be the sweet spot for a mild OC yet decent performance.
     
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    Yeah 700/1700 is for me too but it still struggles in BF4. Shame otherwise I wouldn't have purchased this laptop tbh
     
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    The laptop has been out well over a year of course it will have some issues. Even the upgraded 680m, in other machines, will struggle at times but the cost would be way higher too. A newer 780m would be nice but now that is a more recent GPU and again what higher in cost.
     
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    I can get an 8970m for fairly cheap but obviously I cannot upgrade this machine. Considered asking the main man slv7 to help but he gets inundated with requests haha

    I might just sell this and get another newer one.

    Cheers for the replies
     
  46. vesayreve

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    I dont see a reason why you would like to turn it off but as long as they bring it back I'm fine.
     
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    Even the -t01-us only had the 7870 so I do not think the cooling in the system would be adequate for a 8970m. Unfortunately a new system is about the only way to get a better GPU............
     
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    Agreed Cousin from across the Pond. Time to look at a nice laptop with SLI 780M
     
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    I ended up getting a new laptop, said screw it to all the issues I was having. Got the Sager NP8275 and upgraded it from the Nvidia GTX 770M to the AMD Radeon HD 8970M and haven't looked back. The cooling has been great and fairly quiet. No one has heard my fans going while gaming and the fps has improved. I don't have my old benchmarks so I can't really do anything scientifically but I know there is an improvement. There was a transition from Nvidia to AMD Enduro tech I had to figure out, but I have gotten used to it now. I've had the laptop for about a month now. (December 1st will mark a month since there isn't 31 days in November and I bought it on October 31st.) All in all I am impressed with the specs and considering I spent about $1800 after 3 day shipping and paying an extra $50 for Sager to rush build it I feel I did good.

    I tried an Alienware with the same cpu as the Sager (see sig), 8 GB ram, and Nvidia GTX 770M, yes I can tell the difference between the 770M and the 8970M, as the 8970M can actually push a little further. That and the price of the Alienware just wasn't worth it to me. I tried an Asus Gamer laptop, but not being able to install Windows 7 to it just killed it for me. I decided to order from powernotebooks.com and am glad I did. Excellent customer service and everything. I am working on an review of them for reselleratings.com and will be posting it up soon.

    Anyhow, back to the AMD 8970M, it's a great gpu and a really good upgrade over the GTX 675M. The cost of SLI 780M's were too high for me, and even the upgrade to a single 780M was pretty high, a difference of $300 between the stock 770M and 780M, $100 more bought the AMD 8970M which is right up there with the 780M, and was a smarter upgrade for me after looking up the differences between the 780M and 8970M, my uses pretty much barely maxed out the 675M, let alone an 8970M.

    Temp wise, the room I am in is 60F (15.5C) right now. The laptop's cpu is running at avg of 33C across all cores, and the gpu is sitting at 38C (and actually dropping to about 36 now) while running 5 tabs, itunes, and Wireshark (A networking troublshooter program) and Dual screens (laptop 17.3" 1080P and a Samsung 24" 1080P through HDMI. So we are looking at about a 23C difference in temps which I don't think is bad.

    Anyhow, I just thought I would say a little something since I saw that the 8970M had been mentioned some here. If anyone wants to know more about the GPU or even the full computer setup/ review, just private message me or ask on here or whatever. I will try to respond quickly.
     
  50. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    My biggest reason for this system was the 120hz screen. Not that I do 3D but it helps with eye strain. The bright screen is a plus too. So over all this system fits me the best that I could find at the time. Since custom builds is about the only way to get Windows 7 that is the way I would go for the future. Most of the hardware out there with Windows 7 does not fit my likes. This though should easily hold me out till Windows 7 support dies, that is so long as the hardware doesn't sufferfrom an untimely death.....................
     
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