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    Series 7 Ultra NP730U3E / NP740U3E with AMD HD 8570M and optional 4G LTE

    Discussion in 'Samsung' started by yknyong1, Jan 11, 2013.

  1. bluesilver12

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    Hi Guys,

    Lately I've been considering Asus UX32VD & Gigabyte U2442N, but a few days ago my friends told me about this SAMSUNG NP730U3E-S01ID & I think I'm sold to this... I live in Indonesia & the product still in the pre order stage, does anybody have it already?

    Here is the link for the product in Samsung Indonesia Series 7 Intel Ultrabook - OVERVIEW | SAMSUNG
     
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    Still have not received it yet, hopefully its soon.
     
  3. John Ratsey

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    NP740U3E (touch screen version) is listed at Best Buy.

    John
     
  4. Bumix33

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    I havent seen the 8570 gpu version anywhere. maybe it will come with the haswell update. the 8550 will not be faster than the integrated graphics, so there has to be an update...wouldnt see a benefit otherwise...

    something else: the 730u3e will not come with a truly matte display and will have a keyboard with minor quality when compared to the series 9 (german cebit video):
    CeBIT: Samsung Series 7 Ultra 730U3E Ultrabook im Hands-on | Mobilegeeks.de | Net-/Ultrabooks
     
  5. Bumix33

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    if the 900x3e wouldnt come with only a 300nit display (likely to not screw up battery life because of the fhd display's increased consumption)....i would go for that one....

    but Samsung's marketing experts are not stupid - its not their aim to design a labtop that keeps you satisfied for 3 years. for the same reason we will not see thunderbolt too soon...
     
  6. corteen

    corteen Notebook Consultant

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    I picked up the BestBuy version today - first impression is that the build quality is very nice.
    I am going to play with it tomorrow (traveling today) and will take the bottom plate off to see if this is upgradeable or not.

    Let me know if you want me to check for anything in particular.
     
  7. Bumix33

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    ...if you check whether it is a "real" matte screen or coated one as seen in the video, check on keyboard travel/feel, tendency of the screen to move (like eg in the train)...and fan noise....that would be great!!! Thx

    Enjoy your new gadget!
     
  8. etang858

    etang858 Notebook Enthusiast

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    When I went into best buy to check it out today, the C drive showed only ~20 gb of free space and 67 GB total? The other ~61GB are being used by the OS and recovery? or am I missing something?!?!?
     
  9. John Ratsey

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    I would be interested in the SSD make / model / size. That's probably the component highest on the list for upgrading.

    Also, can you look in Disk Management to see what is using all the space (see question below).

    The recovery partition usually occupies just over 20GB. The bottom line is that 128GB gives little space for users (I upgraded my Series 9s to 256GB).

    John
     
  10. Selo

    Selo Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm still confused about the naming.

    I see now that the Series 7 Chronos is now also called ATIV Book 8?(The Ultra ATIV Book 7 as mentioned in previous post)

    Where did this name come from? I keep googling without success..

    The black version of the Chronos is 8xx instead of 7 will that be the same for the Ultra version?
     
  11. oled

    oled Notebook Evangelist

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    Filtering for big mSATA devices a German price comparison site also lists 512GB Samsung PM841 and 480GB Crucial M500.
    Anything wrong with those?
     
  12. oled

    oled Notebook Evangelist

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    Could you please check whether the bottom side of the WiFi Card is plain!?

    I'd like to replace the card with a WiFi/3G combo module. That card comes with chips on both sides and I'm wondering if it'll fit in the slot. The bottom side chip sticks out around 1mm, total height 4.2mm.

    See right side of the picture for the bottom side [​IMG]
     
  13. oled

    oled Notebook Evangelist

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    Also could you please check if the the free space above the SSD / left of the fan is big enough to hold a full size MiniPCIe card. Its about the same surface size as the SSD with a height of 4.2mm.
     
  14. John Ratsey

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    They will be fine if they are actually available. I will buy whichever comes near to me first since I'm struggling for space on my NP900X4C. The part number for the 480GB Crucial is MTFDDAT480MAV.

    My guess is that Samsung are putting the PM841 in the 512GB version of the NP900X3E (which has been listed for nearly 2 months but I've never seen it available).

    John
     
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    OK - I opened up the Best Buy version and it is relatively easy to upgrade, the memory is upgradeable to 16GB and the MSATA drive is easy to get to also.
    Build quality is very good and it is almost identical to the Series 5 Ultra Touch - except silver in color and no removable bottom plate (the whole bottom of this one is removable with 10 screws)
    photo (5).JPG photo (2).JPG

    The WEI is as follows (after upgrade to 16GB)
    Processor 6.9
    Memory 7.4
    Graphics 5.5
    Gaming Graphics 6.4
    Hard Disk 7.9
     
  17. oled

    oled Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks for you PM corteen. I re-post it here. I hope you don't mind doing so, let me know otherwise and I will delete it:

    Is your 3G card a full or half size MiniPCIe? Is it also double sided?
    You mentioned the WiFi Card is single-sided. Is there some padding underneath? I'm quite concerned the 1mm bottom chip of the above shown module might prevent the card fitting in there.

    If it doesn't fit, an alternative would be taking an extension cable and put the card above the SSD ( half / or even full size).

    Another thing to deal with is to find an opening for the SIM card holder. Does the central air grid of the bottom plate sits right above the WiFi module? The bottom plate is made of plastic, right?

    Regarding the additional antennas, does it seem easy to open the display bezel?
     
  18. darkxer878

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    Will the AMD / 256GB SSD version ever arrive in USA? :)
     
  19. John Ratsey

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    Can someone check the display model number (Device Manager > Monitors > Details > Hardware IDs)?

    John
     
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    which SSD brand was build in?
    is the display truly matte (like S9) or coated?
    how is the keyboard travel?
    how is fan noise under light use and with AMD GPU activated?

    ...many thanks for sharing your experiences!!
     
  22. droyder

    droyder Notebook Evangelist

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    i have the same quesitons, none of this makes sense.

    the "ATIV Books" have already been in existence for some time, so why would samsung change the Series 7 Ultra to an "ATIV Book"? it would only confuse their consumers.

    do you have a link to the black version of the Chronos?
     
  23. oled

    oled Notebook Evangelist

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    according to the P/N visible on corteens picture its a Samsung PM841 Series SSD
     
  24. glb

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    Called Best Buy and they told be they had one to demo but went there and nothing. Looking at others now I think I got to get an ips screen. Appreciate any comments on the Ultra's screen quality which I believe is PLS technology.
     
  25. lightbulb

    lightbulb Notebook Guru

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    I have the best buy version. Its a little heavier but more solid feeling then the old series 9 with the duralumin. Screen is nice with deep blacks. The screen is glossy as it has the touch screen edge to edge glass. There is no hardware monitor ID listed only generic PNP monitor. Elan Touchpad. Hardrive is the 841 mzmtd128hafv-000. Only annoying item is the intellimemory which seems to slow down software and app updates, better after I uninstalled it.
     
  26. dragonuk

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    What does it say about the monitor when you run this . EnTech Taiwan | Utilities | Monitor Asset Manager

    Paste the info from the right box here.
     
  27. scatwood

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    The monitor's Hardware Id shows CMN 1343, which is the same panel used in the Asus UX32VD. Very glossy surface, which I suppose is unavoidable for a touchscreen. Good contrast and viewing angles as expected. Nice and bright but I find the adaptive brightness sensor annoying and will be disabling it.
     
  28. Doroyce05

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    I also have the Bestbuy version. I was somwhat bumbed that it didnt have the AMD card. I initially bought the Series 7 Chronos and loved it but it was just to big for what i wanted. The series 5 ultra was nice but then it didnt have backlit keyboards then i found this guy. So far i really love it (minus the missing dedicated card). i play SimCity5 on this and some it work related stuff.

    Im planning on upgrading the ram to 16gb. Is there a "must do" on this laptop? I've been trolling on this thread since it was only at page 3 :)
     
  29. batinhas

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    I believe 16GB is not possible. 2 GB onboard, one slot available...
     
  30. corteen

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    There are two slots on the laptop. It comes with one filled with 4GB. I upgraded mine to 16GB - took about 10 minutes (hardest part was separating the bottom plate from the top).
     
  31. Doroyce05

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    What latency do you recomend? i was thinking on getting some 1600Mhz with 10 latency. Although 9 would be nice but slightly expensive. I was thinking on getting some basic RAMs and not some crazy heat sinc version.
     
  32. batinhas

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    Strange... What is your model? Samsung site states that the NP730U3E-S01 has "Memory: 4 GB (2 GB integrated 1 x 2 GB) DDR3 1 600 MHz
    1 x SODIMM (máx 10 GB)"
     
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    The one i picked up from BestBuy (in Texas) is NP740u3e-A.
     
  34. scatwood

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    BestBuy is selling the NP730U3E-A01 in the US. It's a very baseline model; no dGPU, 4 GB RAM and 128 GB SSD. Is there any indication from Samsung USA on release plans of other configurations?
     
  35. Doroyce05

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    Im actualy trying to find this the one you listed but i was only able to find the NP740U3E-A and not the NP730U3E-A. the specs that i bought is the same though. No dGPU, 4gb ram, 128gb SSD, touchscreen.

    It still plays SimCity though is im very happy :)
     
  36. scatwood

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    My mistake, I meant the to type 740 for the touchscreen version.
     
  37. dragonuk

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    There are 2 configurations of this laptop in france/europe where I am located , but I am not sure what one to purchase. Both are the same price


    • The first model is the touchscreen version, its the exact same spec as the model from bestbuy (same model)
    • The second model is the same spec as above except it doesn't have a touchscreen (the screen is non touch matte) and it has dedicated switchable graphics (AMD 8550M)


    What model do you think I should choose ?

    Both are the same price. Should I go for the dedicated graphics but non touch screen or the touchscreen model but with hd 4000 only ?
     
  38. PollyUSA

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    I picked up the new Series 7 Ultra yesterday at Best Buy. Their website said they had the NP740U3E in stock, but there wasn't a display model. The customer service person looked it up on the computer (it wasn't possible to find without the model number) and it showed that they had 4 machines in stock and they had been in the store since March 10th. One other point of interest is that the NP740U3E is on the cover of the in store flyer and no display on the floor.
     
  39. dragonuk

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    What do you think of it ?
     
  40. John Ratsey

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    A thought: Maybe the model without the dGPU has room for two SODIMM slots but the model with the dGPU only has room for one.

    John
     
  41. scatwood

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    Depends on what you plan on using it for; the dGPU will be better for gaming and 3D applications. There are benchmarks available for both the HD 4000 and 8550M.

    8850M: AMD Radeon HD 8550M - NotebookCheck.net Tech
    HD 4000: Intel HD Graphics 4000 - NotebookCheck.net Tech

    A few tests have the dGPU showing double the performance, most were in between or roughly even.

    Personally, I think the touchscreen really changes things. I've only been using it for a few days and I'm already reaching up to the screen on my non-touch work laptop out of habit.
     
  42. lightbulb

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    My monitor is also the CM which got a pretty good rating on notebookcheck as an IPS screen with full color gamut. Battery life will only average probably 6 hours given the battery capacity is about 60k mWH and discharge averages 10K mW
    Monitor
    Windows description...... Generic PnP Monitor
    Manufacturer............. CMN
    Plug and Play ID......... CMN1343
    Data string.............. N133HSE-EA1
    Serial number............ n/a
    Manufacture date......... 2011, ISO week 52
     
  43. Doroyce05

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    This was actually the deciding factor for me. I thought the ultrabook was going to get the same dGPU as its bigger brother Series 7 Chronos (hd 8770). Hell I was fine with the idea of have the HD8750m but once I heard that this was going to ship with only the 8550m I was ....That is almost like the HD 4000. The touch screen does make this laptop special for me. Windows 8 without touch screen is kind of weird to have. I work with Windows server 2012 and it show how much Windows 8 is really a touch base OS. I was in the market for a laptop and I wanted to get something that has todays technology in like touchscreens.

    The HD 4000 is not that bad but you have to accept the fact that this thing is not a gaming laptop. I initially wanted a gaming laptop but then I reanalyzed why i'm getting a laptop. I use my laptop for internet browsing and IT related work. the fact that it doesn't have a dedicated card doesn't really bother me but it would have awesome if it came with one. Like I said on my other posts, I was able to play the new SimCity and it does it well on low to mid setting (with fan blowing :) ). I will swap my ram to get 16gb. I took off intelyram or whatever that software is called.
     
  44. dragonuk

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    SO the touchscreen version is using the CMN1343 . I thought this was a matte screen , can it also be glossy ?

    Cause the Asus Zenbook Prime UX31 Touchscreen model uses a different screen from the standard zenbook prime ux31. It uses a CMN N133HSG .
     
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    Hello,
    i have version with 2 graphics card and I made a windows performance test. Result of graphics was not very good - only 4.9. Do you now why? I think I set all options to max performance. My friend in np530 (only internal card - but no full hd screen) has 5.2 results.

    wydajnosc.png
     
  46. Goren

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    you should run 3dmark11 and 3dmark06
    both are free programs and the most common method of benchmarking video card performance.
     
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    So my Bestbuy in Canada finally received the model that was shown in the system for 2 weeks now. i5, 8gb ram, 256gb ssd, 1080p touchscreen, integrated hd 4000. Retail price of $1400, cost in the system shows $1290 so hopefully that means its going on sale for $1300. At that price I was expecting a 8570m, but i guess in comparison to other ultrabooks, the price is on par.

    - First i gotta say that the screen is absolutely stunning. Everything about it is perfect, the blacks are fantastic, the colours are very rich and vibrant, and the viewing angles are great too.
    - The laptop looks fantastic too, not as nice as the dark blue Series 9, but pretty damn close to as sexy.
    - The keyboard is good, but not as good as I was expecting. It's got a very similar look and feel to the keyboard on the original Asus Zenbook.
    - The touchpad is amazing, i love it. Very smooth feel, the multi-touch for pinch-zoom and scrolling is very accurate and responsive. Its also a perfect size imo.
    - It still feels very lightweight, even with being heavier than the Series 9, which makes the larger battery worth it for sure.

    Was only playing around with it for 10min, but id say its a perfect ultrabook.
     
  48. pdagal

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    My guess is that it's not switching to dedicated graphics for the test. That's the same result I get on mine with only HD 4000 graphics.

     
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    My local best buy in Toronto seems to be having issues finding the model number what we're you getting the staff to look up to find this computer, hopefully I can call around tomorrow and find a betsbuy that has one available. Thanks in advance for your reply.
     
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    Webcode: 10238261
    Model: NP740U3E-A02CA

    Not all locations have it in stock yet, some received shipments on Saturday, others should get it tomorrow.

    As of right now, Newmarket has 2, Richmondhill has 1 on demo and 1 to sell, and Warden & Eglington has 2. I'll update you if any other locations receive it.
     
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