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    Windows 10 on Samsung Notebooks

    Discussion in 'Samsung' started by John Ratsey, Jul 19, 2015.

  1. John Ratsey

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    It seems that the old problems with Windows + Sleep continue: Yesterday I thought that Windows 10 had fixed a sleep orblem with my Dell E7440 but I left it overnight and it just had a black screen when I tried to wake it this morning. Event Viewer gives no clues. The good news is that Windows 10's hibernation / resume are faster than for Windows 7.

    Unless you are using encrypted storage or some software that uses the TPM for extra security then I think there will be no adverse consequences.

    John
     
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    Hello all,
    loosing the wifi hostspot one button thing is really a shame, hope they bring it back.
    Main problem is that I can't control the brightness of the display. The w10 patch doesn't install.
    My model is np680z5e.
     
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    TPM chips provide additional security for bitlocker and secure boot I believe. I installed that program on W8.1 just to resolve the TPM module in device manager. I'd assume W10 has a built in driver, so uninstall the software and see if there's anything missing in your device tree. If not, wouldn't worry about it.
     
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    I do have encrypted folders on that laptop. I could turn off the TPM in the BIOS, but that would mean losing some functionality. I guess the question is if I really need that TPM software, or if Windows 10 has built-in functionality that duplicates what that Infineon software does.
     
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    Found the answer to my question here:

    Looks like the software was never needed in the first place, since Windows has all the required functionality since Vista.
     
  6. John Ratsey

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    Check the recent discussion in this thread.

    So it's a bit of Samsung bloatware because no one checked if it was needed.

    John
     
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    Just to update, I upgraded my NP900X3C to Windows 10 last night. Haven't noticed any major issues (knock on wood).
     
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    I did the NP700G7C. Man did it take am while. I have a 480GB SSD but 120 of it right now is Linux mint 17.2. I also have a 300 GB section of the secondary HDD as ext4. Express settings was an issue as well.

    1.) It does play nice with the dual boot and Grub, of course it may seem like it is stuck at times installing but just walk away.

    2.) Use Settings from a machine that offers it for 8.1 not just 8.0. The 8.0 version kept getting blocked but the 8.1 went through.

    3.) Control panel is still there but minus Windows Update. Still need to get the driver blocker installed.

    4.) initial impression is this is actually faster on single threads than Windows 7. Not so much where a lot of data is being accessed but on smaller threads it is substantially faster. This was tested with SuperPI. It cut times substantially in the smaller tests.
     
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    Do you have the Wifi hotspot option on Samsung Settings?

    Saludos
     
  10. akheron

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    No I don't see a Wi-Fi hotspot option in Samsung Settings.
     
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    It seems with the NP700G7C you will also need the Windows 8.1 O2Micro card reader drivers if coming from other than Windows 8.1 where they are already working. Once those were in boot up is a bit better but I think Windows 7 was faster overall. TBH this spec never impressed me one way or the other.
     
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    I think dual boot MAY work, although it is completely unsupported by M$. It appears W10 setup generates a distinct key. I restored my factory W7 to my X3g then did the W10 upgrade, snagged the key (which was not the same as my W7 key), reimaged W7, then installed W10 for dual boot. So far so good. I will test drive for a bit and report any issues. X3G actually came with distinct W7/8.1 keys, but I don't think that is coming into play here.
     
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    NP700 Z5B here with vga AMD 6790+Intel 3000.... the problem is that after installing the drivers (video e touch) in windows update it takes 2 minutes to enter the windows even if my SSD has. Going back to the win8 for now.
     
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    So I downloaded 10 onto my Samsung Ativa 13.3.

    A few observations:

    1.Chrome does not work. Chrome Canary does but in the past has been a little buggy. I now use Firefox with 10 for my browser after years of using Chrome.

    2. Battery life seems to be greatly reduced. ( Is that possible?) I have turned the screen brightness down and turned off as many apps as I could....but I am still shocked at how fast the juice is draining. 8.1 was much more battery friendly to this computer.

    There is a restore button that will bring back 8.1 It is only good for one month from the time you "upgrade" to 10. I am thinking about pushing it.
     
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    At first there are a lot of house keeping chores, indexing etc., over a couple of days the battery drain should reduce.
     
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    Anybody else having overheating/fans not working after windows 10 upgrade? It seems that my series 9 ivy bridge model fans are not working after the upgrade.
     
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    I haven't seen any other reports of this behaviour. The fan should be controlled at the BIOS level. Try uninstalling Samsung Settings, reboot and reinstall since this program interfaces with the BIOS. Also make sure that Silent Mode is not enabled.

    John
     
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    I'm going to jump and do a clean install. Is there any purpose at all in keeping Samsung's recovery partition? I was going to wipe the entire drive clean to get as much space as possible. Thoughts?
     
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    The update went horribly wrong for me. I have an Ativ Book 8 and after installing and entering windows 10 for the first time. Everything seemed okay. After rebooting the system I got BCD error and I cant boot. Even worse is, my usb stick doesnt seem to work so that I can repair the installation. Has anyone an idea how I can fix this?
     
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    Hello everyone, so today I updated my NP780Z5E (Series 7 Chronos) to Windows 10. I upgraded over my Windows 8.1 installation and kept files and apps. So far everything seems to be working ok, except for two little details.

    If I have more than one virtual desktop, I can use the shortcut Win+Ctrl+LeftArrow to scroll to a left desktop. However, I cannot use Win+Ctrl+RightArrow. Interestingly, if NumLock is off, I can use the number 4 and 6 as left/right arrows, and then the shortcut works in both directions, it's only the dedicated right arrow key that is not being recognized. Obviously, the key works well for everything else. It's a minor but annoying issue. I would suspect some other app could have registered a similar shortcut, but I have no idea if I can check this manually. None of the apps I'm currently running seem to be the culprit. Any ideas?

    The other issue is that some apps are showing blurry text. I have my scaling set at 125% so I'm pretty sure that's part of the reason, but it was like that before the upgrade and it was working ok, maybe I'm missing something?
     
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    Just wanted to chime in and post my experiences so far:

    I have a NP940X5J-K02US, had Windows 8.1 on it. I did an upgrade to W10 using the media creation tool because my upgrade reservation did not download, and everything worked out during the upgrade and I experienced similar updates/messages that John did during his update (did not have a conflict with easy settings/samsung settings so no message for that, but did get the pop up with korean letters, etc. for the sw update). I installed sw update and was provided with a multitude of updates because my pc was brand new and I have not used it since I bought it a few months ago. Everything worked fine and W10 was activated, etc.

    Next up for me was to clean install W10 on a new ssd that I bought (samsung m2 850 evo 500gb). I did not want to clone my previous drive as I wanted a clean install, so I created the installation media on my usb drive using the media creation tool, I changed a few options in the bios and changed the boot order so that the usb would boot first and swapped out the old ssd with the new one. I turned on the pc, and the W10 install prompt came up and I proceeded to do a custom install. Now, once windows was done installing, etc., it did ask me for a product key to activate, but all you have to do is select "skip" as the W10 key is now stored in the cloud and it will recognize the pc you did the upgrade on. This is important in order to do clean installs and re-activate windows. I was able to skip activation, get everything set up and I had a nice, clean installation of W10 albeit without any samsung software, etc. I double checked by going to settings>update and recovery>activation and my copy was activated. I did go to windows update to see if windows could pull all of the necessary drivers that I needed, and it did find all of them but had errors when trying to download them.

    Next step was to download sw setup from samsung, and ran that with no problem it was able to detect my configuration and provide me with the necessary files and updates (settings, etc). It seems like I got most of the important updates on my pc and everything is working fine. I did have to reboot a few times for all of the options under settings to show up. Only other issue I am having now is the touch pad is a bit "touchy" for lack of a better phrase. Scrolling on webpages is not smooth at all and very jerky, so trying to see if there is a setting I need to change or find a new driver.

    If I can think of anything else I will post. Hope this helps out anyone else who is trying to upgrade and/or clean install. Thanks and sorry for the long post.
     
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    Just want to report my feedback:

    I did an upgrade from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10 on my Samsung NP530U4C-S01IN and so far everything is smooth.
     
  23. John Ratsey

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    Did you encounter any problem with ExpressCache? See the post here.

    John
     
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    So I got an SSD in the recent Amazon sale to finally put in my NP780Z5E-S01UK, in order to do a clean install of the new windows. The guide I read said you needed to do an upgrade first, so I did that anyway with the old disk in. Seemed to work OK, so saved off all the win 10 drivers from SWUpdate (I wanted to avoid SWUpdate itself, due to the recent auto-update controversy), took a note of my new Windows 10 licence key via Produkey, installed via usb and put all the drivers on.

    Everything seems to be working fine, brightness, trackpad, wifi, switchable graphics, everything I have had bother with previously. With the ssd my laptop finally feels like it's working properly. Additionally, it seems like new AMD graphics drivers can be automatically downloaded and installed from AMD's new Gaming Evolved client software, which is nice.
     
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    My laptop Samsung netbook NP-NC108_P03VN upgrade from Win7 to Win10 Pro (Actived), everything ok but only one problem: Brightness control not working, I can not adjust brightness. I must always charge my laptop to make it light. How cruel ...

    Have any guide for me? I think problem is driver.

    Easy Display manager not working, too
     
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    Did a similar process, but actually used a key finder to grab the W10 key from the upgrade before doing the clean install. Interestingly, it is a completely different key. ;)
     
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    If the display seems much brighter than before you need to get this fixed ASAP. The issue is that the monitor does not get recognized and then the system can overdrive it. This can cause it to eventually blow out. This has happened on a few AW systems already. If it is an NVidia card their full driver set may fix the issue for you.

    As far as easy settings you need to download settings for windows 8.1 (not 8.0).
     
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    I have a huge issue since the WIndows10 update. BCD error at startup and I cannot enter windows anymore. But USB drives dont seem to be working as well?

    How can I restore the BCD so that I can enter Windows again and make a backup of my files?
     
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    I assume you have checked the bios to ensure that fast boot is disabled, and your gpt/mbr setting hasn't been switched?
     
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    I probably should have done that too in hindsight just to be safe haha.
     
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    For those with early Windows 8 Samsung notebooks I would draw your attention to this thread in which an attempt to clean install Windows 10 died part way through. There are resemblances to previous bricking problems with suspicion fall on corrupted CMOS or UEFI.

    John
     
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    Not again. :(
     
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    The latest information is that the BIOS in the affected computer was two versions out of date which would have increased the vulnerability of bricking. So this will be a suitable place to post the advice to anyone contemplating their Windows upgrade to first check that their BIOS is the latest. See this thread for the recommended method and a link to Samsung's stand-alone BIOS update program.

    John
     
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    I can definitely see that being the case. Most drivers of 8.0 ilk will not work on W10, now 8.1 drivers are usually fair game.
     
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    No I haven't. I have Express cache 1.0.86.0. Also note I did an upgrade from Windows 8.1 and not fresh install
     
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    Another issue; The included upgraded Elan drivers would not under admin account and email login allow you to disable the touchpad with a mouse plugged in. The OEM 8.1 drivers solved this for me.
     
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    Clean install of Windows 10 with default Windows supplied drivers on my NP780Z5E, then ran the install routine on the drivers previously downloaded with SW Update. All is good except for black screen after sleep (not waking from sleep). Hibernation works great as a replacement but it would be nice to get it to sleep and wake up (this got broken in a recent update from MS as earlier builds of Windows 10 woke from sleep just fine on my upgraded install, then in the past week stopped working - was hoping the clean install would fix it).
     
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    My 3 month old NP940X3G had 8.1 via clean install method already so I just did the upgrade method. It took about 30 minutes to update to Windows 10 and then roughly another 30 minutes to update the things in the Samsung SW Update. Everything works very well including Classic Shell. I like the Edge browser a lot....probably better than Chrome. Sleep resumes normally and I have yet to experience any issues. So far so good.

    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 3.
     
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    I'm having the same right arrow key being unresponsive when trying to switch virtual desktops on my book 9 Plus. I haven't found a program that has taken over the key unfortunately either.
     
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    By biggest gripe after a pretty successful W10 upgrade from 8.1 was that Chrome ( my browser of choice) would not work. I tried several times to un-install and re-install to no avail. I started using Firefox.

    I am now in Mexico for a week and just for the hell of it I tried downloading Chrome again and voila...it works great and fast and clean.

    Made in Mexico!
     
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    So I did the Windows 10 update, and everything seems more-or-less ok, except that the 2-finger scroll got reversed and I can't figure out how to set it back. Anyone know how to fix this?
     
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    Yah.. happened to me too. You can change the direction under mouse settings.
     
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    Not sure how I missed that, but thank you! :confused:
     
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    Hello guys, i've a NP700Z5C and i went from W8 to W8.1 and then W10..
    I feel it a little bit laggy perhaps due to the not-clean installation (factory bloatware ecc).
    Can anyone tell me what's the best solution in order to fresh install W10 with a working F4 recovery??
    If i completely format my HDD (removing the recovery partitions too) can i get it back as factory through an exported factory image?
     
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    Once that is gone, it is gone. give the new OS 24 hours it will feel better once indexing and other house keeping chores are done.
     
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    I agree it might take a few hours for all the new OS chores to complete and things should get better. But you can also do a clean install and maintain working F4 as long as you don't delete those partitions in windows setup. However, in SRS6 (typical version for a W8+ laptop) unlike SRS5 you can also enter F4 and use a 32 or possibly 16GB flash drive to export the entire recovery to. This can be used to completely reimage the machine to factory. Then you can delete all the partitions, reclaim the space and start fresh, though you will be left with the often unpleasant task of migrating programs and files. Your call, the W10 key can be extracted with a key finder, but reportedly it is also saved with your MS account.
     
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    Hi,


    I've got an NP350VC that I updated to Win10 yesterday. seemed to be fine at first, but now everything's gone to absolute hell. I'm getting INTERNAL_POWER_ERRORS right, left and centre. It seems to be related to the Radeon HD7600M display adapter, as I can't change the display brightness. It also restarted when I plugged it in, even though it had been on the mains with no trouble earlier. this makes me think it might have a problem with the replacement battery I'm using. What I've tried so far is:

    - Uninstalling the HD7600M adapter and deleting driver software. However, it came right back on restart anyway.

    - Disabling automatic restart. However, all this did was make it hang on that 'Your PC encountered a problem and had to restart, etc. ....' screen

    - Full system restore.

    If anyone has any more ideas, I'd be glad to hear them, I'm seriously considering downgrading back to 8.1 at this point. I can't take the light or the (unprecedentedly loud and chronic) fan noise any more. Needless to say I'm disappointed. This upgrade was supposed to fix the world's problems, make everybody happy and dispense free beer too :rolleyes: should have done more research rather than go crashing happily into it :(

    [EDIT: I see someone mentioned a 'clean install' above. Would doing this help?]
     
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    Many of the Samsung notebooks have a Samsung customised graphics driver to tie into the notebook's brightness control. The other piece of Samsung software that you will need is Settings, which does some power configuration and also provides the interface to the Fn key controls. You may find that the most recent versions of Settings and the graphics driver as issued for your notebook work better than whatever generic versions Windows 10 is using. One problem is that Samsung's Settings program has added a few features over the years but also lost a few that were relevant to the older notebooks.

    And the last thing I want is Windows 10 starting to dispense beer and kill the keyboard. :rolleyes:

    John
     
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    Thanks, I'll try to find those drivers. I have Settings, but it's not affecting the hardware button functions.

    Haha. I was thinking it could come out of the HDMI port into a keg, I never use it these days :p

    [EDIT: I think that's done it. I've also downloaded the Catalyst Control Centre (CCC) as I've just noticed it wasn't installed. That may also have been part of the problem. Pending a restart, I think this is solved! :)

    EDIT2: It's alive! and the brighness controls obey me :D Fan noise is better too. kind of.]
     
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    Thanks. It was a windows 10 process "runtime broker" causing my cpu usage to climb all the way to 100 that was causing the overheating issue. I have disabled "show windows tips" and that seems to help for now.
     
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