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    All Things Android - Apps, Phones, Tablets - Discussion

    Discussion in 'Smartphones and Tablets' started by H.A.L. 9000, Aug 1, 2010.

  1. BigNerd

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    BigNerd, Jul 11, 2012
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  2. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    So, 4.1 is rolling out for the Galaxy Nexus. I haven't received the alert yet :(

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
    Nick, Jul 11, 2012
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  3. hockeymass

    hockeymass that one guy

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    I'm getting really irritated with VZW dragging its feet on OTA updates. HSPA+ Nexus 4.1 update is already rolling out, but no indication whatsoever on when the CDMA one will be hitting my phone.
     
    hockeymass, Jul 12, 2012
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  4. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    So, I'm running stock Jellybean on my Nexus! Just clear the framework until it finds the update.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
    Nick, Jul 13, 2012
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  5. Voodooi

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    I almost grabbed the latest HTC One V, but held back too long and now it's no longer on sale. The reason I held back is it didn't have the GSM requirements for a Canadian carrier that has 40$/mo = Unlimited Canada-Wide Calls/Texts/Data ...I would of been forced to go with 50$/mo Local/Texts/2GB.

    It's very difficult to find the perfect phone with a GSM of 1700/2100 - not a huge selection and most you cannot see in person and have to order them online (imported from T-Mobile USA). What's even more difficult to find is an Android phone, with good/decent specs (5mp cam/720p) and a blackberry-like keyboard that runs in that frequency (non-existent I think).
     
    Voodooi, Jul 13, 2012
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  6. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    Which is why 1700MHz AWS 3G needs to burn in a fire. All of it. The EM waves need to just spontaneously combust.
     
    H.A.L. 9000, Jul 13, 2012
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  7. Voodooi

    Voodooi AFK for a while...

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    Do you know why the best carriers go with 1700/2100 (at least in Canada)?

    Is it because the "big 3" (Bell/Rogers AT&T/Telus) control the other frequencies and other carriers aren't allowed to use their frequencies?

    Seems odd that the carrier with the best plan in the country went with that frequency.

    Their Link:
    http://shop.windmobile.ca/#__utma=1.365714154.1341694443.1342161267.1342163791.4&__utmb=1.1.10.1342163791&__utmc=1&__utmx=-&__utmz=1.1342163791.4.2.utmcsr=google|utmccn=(organic)|utmcmd=organic|utmctr=(not%20provided)&__utmv=-&__utmk=201152046

    They've only been around for a few years - I believe they're an Egyptian based company.

    Edit: One more question. Why don't all smartphones have every frequency built into them? I think Google's flagship is one of the very few?

    Do the big companies make secret business deals with the phone manufacturers in order to monopolize most of the phones?
     
    Voodooi, Jul 13, 2012
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  8. hockeymass

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    Not the CDMA version, right? I think it's GSM only at this point. Or at least I hope it is, because I spent a significant amount of time unlocking, rooting, and flashing the Jelly Belly ROM last night. (it's an easy process when you know what you're doing, but I didn't)
     
    hockeymass, Jul 13, 2012
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  9. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    I have the GSM version. How's battery life?

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
    Nick, Jul 13, 2012
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  10. hockeymass

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    Pretty similar to what it was under 4.0.4.
     
    hockeymass, Jul 13, 2012
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  11. Rodster

    Rodster Merica

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    Anyone getting a Nexus 7? They are already in stock at Office Depot. They can't sell them until tomorrow per Google.
     
    Rodster, Jul 13, 2012
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    Most likely going to get one, but still unsure.
     
    mrXniick, Jul 13, 2012
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  13. Rodster

    Rodster Merica

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    ASUS released the Transformer Infinity 10.1 with the 1920x1200 display. It's got a built in MicroSD slot which the Nexus 7 doesn't have. The only negative is that it runs ICS and Jelly Bean runs really sweet.

    Decisions, decisions. :rolleyes:
     
    Rodster, Jul 14, 2012
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  14. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    Using a two finger swipe to collapse/expand certain notifications in JB 4.1...

    Anyone remember my render I did a while back and how I thought it should be implemented? Seems me and someone at Google think a lot alike. :rolleyes:
     
    H.A.L. 9000, Jul 15, 2012
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  15. MGS2392

    MGS2392 NAND Cat!

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    I recall listing expandable notifications as one of the features that they should add to JB, a while back in this thread. I'm not too fond of the 2 finger swipe since its harder for one handed use.
     
    MGS2392, Jul 15, 2012
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  16. mrXniick

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    I do remember this.. haha, and I do like the implementation in jelly bean
     
    mrXniick, Jul 16, 2012
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  17. hockeymass

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    Having played with Jelly Bean for a few days now, I'm hugely satisfied with my Nexus. JB is what ICS should have been (not that ICS wasn't great in its own right). The smoothness is just awesome, feels like a whole new phone.

    A few weeks ago, I was considering making my next phone an iPhone. Now I'm definitely sticking with Android.
     
    hockeymass, Jul 16, 2012
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  18. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Which ROM are you using that uses JB on the GN??
     
    sgogeta4, Jul 16, 2012
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  19. hockeymass

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    Jelly Belly. Right now I'm on version 3.1, but I think I'm going to flash 3.6 tonight if I have time, since it fixes some connectivity issues that I've been having.
     
    hockeymass, Jul 16, 2012
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  20. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    The Atrix HD, US GS3, HTC One X, HTC One S, and several more are just the same phone in a different wrapper.

    SAD.

    Until there's differentiation in the market I won't be buying another high end handset from any of the US carriers. INTL only for me.
     
    H.A.L. 9000, Jul 16, 2012
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  21. hockeymass

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    Care to elaborate?
     
    hockeymass, Jul 16, 2012
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  22. Micaiah

    Micaiah Notebook Deity

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    I believe he's referring to every high end Android phone in the United States utilizing the Snapdragon S4, with the only differentiation being the physical shell.

    ...Unfortunately until nVidia or Samsung can integrate LTE into their SoC, that's just the way it is. TI just needs to revamp their SoC altogether.
     
    Micaiah, Jul 16, 2012
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  23. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    ^Tailgunner is correct.

    Exynos 5, OMAP 5 and Tegra 4 better all be LTE capable with US bands or else I'll be on HSPA+ forever.

    I refuse to support a monopoly. S4 has a monopoly on the current market since it's a one stop LTE solution that's cheap to implement.
     
    H.A.L. 9000, Jul 17, 2012
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  24. HottSushiz

    HottSushiz Notebook Consultant

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    So after being with iOS for 2 years then switching to android for a few months then back into iOS for another 6 months i swapped back to android via the Galaxy Nexus. Right now I'm loving the customization, ice cream sandwich and the screen.

    But the thing i love most about android is really PowerAmp. It's the only app i've payed for in my whole life with smartphones. When the iPhone 5 hits I'll try that for a while. But I'm thinking of purchasing a android device specifically for music. Is there anything available that suits my specifications.
     
    HottSushiz, Jul 17, 2012
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  25. hockeymass

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    Samsung makes the Galaxy Player series, which is essentially an Android based iPod touch. Wifi only.
     
    hockeymass, Jul 17, 2012
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  26. Micaiah

    Micaiah Notebook Deity

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    The Sony Walkman Z series are not as good of a value as the Galaxy players but it does have the Tegra 2 chipset and better sound quality.
     
    Micaiah, Jul 17, 2012
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  27. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    MIUI with the Nokia Meego theme. Love it.

    [​IMG]
     
    H.A.L. 9000, Jul 17, 2012
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  28. hockeymass

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    hockeymass, Jul 17, 2012
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  29. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    Yes. Galaxy S2 i777. Runs as smooth as butter. :)
     
    H.A.L. 9000, Jul 17, 2012
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  30. Phistachio

    Phistachio A. Scriabin

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    Phistachio, Jul 18, 2012
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  31. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    Why? lol. It's so radically different than regular Android that it's kinda like a breath of fresh air sometimes. I love ICS/JB, but MIUI has some killer features of it's own that CM9/10 has nowhere on their roadmap. Plus you can make it anything you want it to be. Literally every part of the OS can be skinned. Another thing that I've learned I can't live without is that MIUI will light the phone up when receiving a TXT. CM6/CM7/CM9/CM10 won't. I don't know why that hasn't been written into the CM device frameworks yet.

    Here's some more screens for those interested. :)

    Stock CM9 lock screen w/music for contrast:
    [​IMG]

    MIUI Lockscreen:
    [​IMG]

    MIUI Online Theme Repo:
    [​IMG]

    About Screen:
    [​IMG]
     
    H.A.L. 9000, Jul 18, 2012
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  32. slapshot30

    slapshot30 Notebook Consultant

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    Is that the newest version of MIUI (v4 I believe)? Last time I had it, barely any of the themes worked. Other than that I agree with you.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
    slapshot30, Jul 18, 2012
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  33. Tinderbox (UK)

    Tinderbox (UK) BAKED BEAN KING

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    Tinderbox (UK), Jul 18, 2012
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  34. vaio.phil

    vaio.phil Notebook Evangelist

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    ^ awesome judge!!
     
    vaio.phil, Jul 18, 2012
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  35. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    Actually, version 2.7.6... but it's based on CM9 which is ICS 4.0.4. That's one of the major reasons that it's insanely smooth.
     
    H.A.L. 9000, Jul 18, 2012
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  36. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    LG Optimus T:

    Cons:

    Small screen
    Android 2.2
    Slow processor
    Poor touch screen

    Pros:

    Um, long battery life?

    Thankfully it's only a temp phone.

    Sent from my LG-P509 using Tapatalk 2
     
    Nick, Jul 19, 2012
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  37. Tinderbox (UK)

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    Tinderbox (UK), Jul 19, 2012
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  38. TearTaker

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    I played with my managers GS3 today. It was ten times smoother than my note. I don't think my note has a powerful enough cpu to power the screen. Anyways, I really do plan on selling it now. So looking at phones. I will miss the big screen. I read a lot and whatnot. So I was thinking the GS3 or nexus. I saw Hal got the meizu mx. Is that worth looking at? Or is now a bad time to buy a new phone? Any input is greatly appreciated.
     
    TearTaker, Jul 20, 2012
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  39. slapshot30

    slapshot30 Notebook Consultant

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    Do all the themes work fine?

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
    slapshot30, Jul 20, 2012
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  40. ahl395

    ahl395 Ahlball

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    One thing I do like about MIUI is the text notifications. They are awesome. :D Being able to reply right in the drop down.
     
    ahl395, Jul 20, 2012
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  41. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    I'm guessing you have the AT&T Note? Exynos should push that screen fine with no stuttering.

    But yea, the GS3 is a really nice phone. I can't explicitly comment on the Meizu yet, but it's getting better benches than either the Exynos or S4 version GS3, and it's based on Exynos 4412. So it should be pretty beastly.

    So far they've all worked for me...

    Indeed, that is awesome.
     
    H.A.L. 9000, Jul 20, 2012
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  42. TearTaker

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    I have the international Galaxy Note. I know it uses a different cpu bu either way my phone is not as smooth as it should be. I've installed roms that have made it better but it's far from fluid like it was on the GS3. Is the meizu mx a newer phone?
     
    TearTaker, Jul 20, 2012
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  43. HottSushiz

    HottSushiz Notebook Consultant

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    Hi is there anything similar with iOS where i can just hook it up to iTunes then hit back up so when i restore my iPhone or upgrade i will have the exact same thing as before but on Android?

    I need to unroot my Galaxy Nexus but the process wipes everything off. I want to be sure that when i sync everything back on. Everything will still be there.
     
    HottSushiz, Jul 20, 2012
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  44. TearTaker

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    I think I have decided on the Galaxy Nexus. It seems it will get the most up to date and fastest software updates and it's screen is still fairly big.
     
    TearTaker, Jul 20, 2012
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  45. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    If you're talking about the internal storage, I don't think that's ever touched. If you're talking about apps and app preferences, use Titanium Backup to backup/restore ONLY 3rd party apps... no system data or apps.

    It's definitely a great phone. Just remember it doesn't have external SD storage. That's the only deal-breaker for me.
     
    H.A.L. 9000, Jul 21, 2012
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    Is there an app to show me my frame-rate/fps when i play a video.

    Thanks

    John.
     
    Tinderbox (UK), Jul 21, 2012
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  47. TearTaker

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    Thanks, HAL. Apparently I am a noob. I decided to restore my phone to default to give it one last go, because I love this phone. Turns out it was just the different launchers. My phone really doesn't play well with any launcher other than the stock twlauncher. Anyways, it's much smoother now so I will keep it.
     
    TearTaker, Jul 21, 2012
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  48. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    Are you on Gingerbread or ICS?
     
    H.A.L. 9000, Jul 21, 2012
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  49. TearTaker

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    I am on ICS. It made my phone smoother going from Gingerbread. It was the same way on Gingerbread too.
     
    TearTaker, Jul 21, 2012
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  50. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    And you're still on the Samsung ICS for the Note's apps, correct?

    I say that because Samsung has slipped up with ICS. It's 10x smoother with CM9. People have been going from Samsung's ICS to CM9 only to find their phone runs smooth as glass. It has something to do with Samsung's OpenGL libs. Also, 2D performance is noticeably increased in CM9.
     
    H.A.L. 9000, Jul 21, 2012
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