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That is honestly the best thing they've done for publicity. Genius.

I'm going bite the bullet and do the same thing. I'll draw a bear and send it over facebook to Samsung Portugal.

 

Samsung ATIV S officially announced: 4.8-inch 720p display, Windows Phone 8 | The Verge

Stick a quad core krait there and Jelly Bean and you have the best phone. That design is a-ma-zing. Not a very big fan of the Note II design though :/ Pretty much about a big GSIII. If only the ATIV S was Android...

 

^^^What's wrong with WMP8? I'm thinking about ditching Android and going WMP way. Gotta grab it soon though, until you-know-who sues Gnusmas and bans it in Europe .

 

Who, Voldemort?

I'm just very "comfortable" and used to Android. I don't think I'll ever leave Android IMO, but WP8 seems really, REALLY nice. Gotta see more of it first tho.

 

Ermagerd, ATIV is VITA backwards. The PS Vita plays games! The iPhone also plays games!

*Apple sues Samsung based on the little known transitive property of patent law*

 

My GF has a WP7 phone and it IS really nice. I'm too far into the android ecosystem to back out now, and frankly, it is a beautiful OS. I will most likely stick with Android for my phone and maybe go Windows 8 for a tablet.

 

Nothing, assuming you're still using XP
Seriously though, there's a separate thread for Windows Phone stuff, no need to post it here.


On a separate note, someone needs to buy me a hat so I can eat it because that LG handset is easily better than the Note 2

 

You don't need to get all that offended. Phistachio posted a link with Sammy running WMP and I commented on that. That's how forums work you know. It's not like I'm saying one platform is better than other.

Oh you .

 

Spec wise, yup. Feature wise, not by a mile. The Note 2 will last you a good 2 years and will probably have a lot of dev.

And again, I'm frustrated that they didn't use the aluminium back on the Note like they did with the ATIV.

 

The S-Pen and...?

To be honest, it's just not good enough from Samsung.
They were a bit lazy with the S3 and they got away with it, they were a lot lazy with the Note2 and LG and Chinese company most people have never heard of have already announced better handsets. If HTC ever have an opportunity to claw back some market-share, it is now.

 

Agreed. I expected more from the note 2 hardware (and I had $800 burning a hole in my pocket... that shall remain there for now). The LG phone is looking quite good in comparison.

 

I guess now we wait and see what, if anything, HTC are bringing to the party.

Oh and in case anyone cares Sony announced a couple of new handsets and a tablet - and given it's Sony, the specs are about the same as what everyone else was announcing at CES

 

And a few gimmicks here and there that may get useful on our day

But yeah, totally agreed. There's a real lack of "GSII and GNote 1 wow" in the N2 and GS3. The GSII was truly new and rather revolutionary like the Note, but these past few and rather disappointing. I'm going to wait for a Nexus or even the Xperia TX and see from there.

 

The TX?
It's the model still using an S3 chip - it's just an Xperia S with a memory card slot.

The Xperia T and Xperia V are the handsets with the S4 SoCs but even they're just basically the same as the HTC One XL and the US versions of the Galaxy S3, about the only selling point is the V's water-resistance.

 

Yeah, I meant the T.

As you said some time, it almost reaches the S3 with its S4 Pro. But again, it's better to wait for the Nexus. It'll probably be quad core and perhaps Android 4.2 or even 5 (considering it's released in November).

 

Hahaha. If you can't out innovate a competitor, buy patents and sue sue sue!!

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so what's the best VoIP app you guys are using on Android? i'm currently using GrooVe IP connected to my Google Voice account for VoIP incoming/outgoing calls, and although most of the incoming calls are fine on T-Mobile's HSPA+ network, the outgoing calls are flaky, and the person at the other end of the call always complains about broken voice, echos, or not hearing me at all.

is there any better solution which is free?

 

^I just use the Google Voice app. HSPA/HSPA+ isn't robust enough to handle VoIP. Latency and consistency aren't quite up to snuff for that protocol.

LTE on the other hand...

 

I've used skype over HSPA+ with video chat and it worked flawlessly... No lag or stutter. It depends on where you are and how good the reception you get.

 

I used Facetime over Straight Talk AT&T 3MB/1MB.

 

All VoIP has latency compensation, and Facetime has quite a bit. But even then it's far from optimal. This is something I've tested in the labs before. Between packet loss, bandwidth consistency and latency... latency is the main killer in most areas. 9 times out of 10, HSPA has ping times of at least 150+ MS, most of the time over 300MS.

 

How are you guys finding the battery life of JB vs. ICS? I've found that JB is slightly better than ICS, when comparing AOKP JB Build 1 vs. ICS Milestone 5.

 

JB is more aggressive on CPU scaling, plus all UI elements are now offloaded to the GPU. Personally I find JB to have measurably better battery life over ICS.

On a different topic, I keep hearing "competitor" this and that... IT'S NOT COMPETITION UNLESS YOU ALLOW THE OTHER APP TO ACTUALLY FUNCTION. As it is, AT&T nor Verizon allow Google Wallet to work on their "branded" devices with NFC.

SimplyTapp NFC Payment System Debuts with CyanogenMod 9.1 – xda-developers

 

Anyone have experience with straight talk? Welcome To Straight Talk

Considering ordering a sim card and their unlimited plan for a secondary phone.

 

It's pretty irritating. I think it's hilarious that they're blocking it because they're going to have their own payment system but they STILL haven't even announced a wide release.

 

I set my mom up with an Atrix II 4G with the AT&T ST sim. I'm switching to Straight Talk in a week or so.

Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

 

I'm on the fence between the Nexus 7 or the GNote 2. I've been wanting a tablet for a while, but as the Note 2 is really damn big I might rethink. What you guys think is the best choice? Both have JB, N2 has better SoC, more space, MicroSD (crucial for me)...

 

Guys, where would I start if I wanted to port my own distribution like CM from scratch? Say from the initial open source release? Just for the experience of porting and such, you know..

 

You're right. On idle, my phone goes much longer but it's not much different on use. My last day's usage is from 95% to 25%, running 16h 30 min, 12% idle on my standard 1850mAh battery with 3G/wifi and GPS on, ~50% brightness (screen was 33% of my battery usage lol).

Playing around with OC/UV and maybe eventually a better power mode/plan using setCPU with linpack. So far I've dropped the minimum speed to 230 (from 384) and tested 230 and 384 with -50mV from stock. Going to follow up over the next few days with long term testing. Haven't done any overclocking past the usual 1420MHz for my kernel.

 

I'd almost say neither to be honest.

If you want a tablet, get a tablet - not a giant phone.
And if you want a tablet, unless budget is your over-riding concern ( which is you're considering the Note2, then I suspect not), then I'd say you may as well spend the money and get a better tablet than the Nexus 7.

 

+1 Especially seeing MicroSD is "crucial" to your decision. I like my N7 but if you have the budget, why not go for something better and with expandable storage.

 

Thanks for the feedback!

Yeah, I guess the GSII is going to hold for another 2 years, since development doesn't seem to be slowing down even though the GSIII is released.

I think a good idea would be to get a N7 or, for example, the Tab 7 or even the Transformer Infinity T700, and only get a new phone when the 2013 Nexus is released. How about that? I think it's a better course of action.

 

First thing to do would be to decide on form factor, they really are different. So far I prefer the N7 over the Touchpad I just sold, but then again that was pretty mediocre as far as the hardware (overall) was concerned.


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Mediocre? please!

Ok so the plastic quality was kinda poor...gotcha.
And it DID have a weird rubber/foam gasket round the screen that collected dust like no one's business.
And it WAS kinda heavy....ok fine you made your point.

I miss mine. Not having a tablet kinda sucks...no scratch that...it does suck.

 

@phistachio:

I'm actually going the Note or Note II route. Having a Galaxy Tab 2 7"... it's actually still a bit big for me. The Note is probably the sweet spot for me sizewise, it has a pen and 3G/4G connectivity... I just don't want to have to wait until the end of 2012 in the US for the II... boo.

 

HAHHA.

The Touchpad was also heavy as heck. That's one of the things I remember about it... vividly. That and it feeling like a giant iPhone 3Gs.

 

Not to mention, the screen was just terrible!

 

Yes. Yes it was. It was claimed as IPS.

I seriously doubt that. It would have to be called IPS on viewing angles ALONE, maybe... because the color and contrast was srsly meh.

 

Okay phone rooted, now what on earth do I do?

 

Install WiFikill.

Sent from my HTC One S

 

FTFY.

Yeah, after some thought I'm guessing I'm also going the Note route... Not aure if I'll have the money tho

Well, I kind of agree with BigNerd, plus I would add that I would prefer if possible to only have 1 device instead of 2, so I only carry the Note and my 17.3" Samsung laptop to school instead of my GSII, the Nexus and the laptop.

This requires some thought and discussion... I might even get some sort of xmas discount by the time it's released here!

 

It says that the attachment is no longer available:

forum.ponury.net • View topic - WiFiKill release thread

Do you have the APK? And if so, would you mind uploading it? How do you use DroidSheep?

edit: dled from here:

[App] Wifikill disable internet for network hoogers - xda-developers

Wifikill can be a real annoyance lol, I can see why it was pulled from the market. DroidSheep tutorial, scary powerful - just tested it on my own system (good thing my acct uses secure http and wasn't accessed, other than username):

HowTo Use DroidSheep - Tutorial - YouTube

 

I bought an AT&T Galaxy S III. Good price, I couldn't pass it up.

I'm going to compair it to my One X and keep the best one. Hopefully the extra 300MaH of battery in the S III allows it to pull ahead in the endurance department.

I'm looking forward to being able to store my music on an SD card instead of messing with Dropbox and Play Music. My 16GB class 10 has been sitting on my desk for too long.

Sent from my HTC One S

 

Motorola. On Display. - YouTube

Streaming live atm. There's some sort of concert atm, the event starts in 10 mins. Interested to see the bezel-less phone!

 

Motorola will offer 100$ to the devices that can't be upgraded to the latest Android... O.O

 

In other words, they're a sorry company and they can't get their act together with their software.

Basically, Moto's keynote was a bust. I didn't like Moto before and still don't... and I absolutely LOATHE the fact that they're STILL using the old busted RAZR branding. It's SOO far beyond played out...

 

Yeah, to me RAZR evokes memories of a design that just wouldn't die. A brand that was interesting at first but definitely overstayed its welcome.

 

Exactly. It's bad to hype up a keynote that's strictly meh at best. The 100 dollars off a non JB handset is ironic especially since seemingly half their freakin US lineup didn't get ICS due to a oversight they had when planning the memory amounts for their devices:

TI didn't really release a stock kernel for devices with 512 MB of RAM right away...a memory amount that Motorola bafflingly decided to standardize nearly across the board for many of their 2011 devices.

TI's gone back and released a stock kernel and have merged in code to let manufacturers build the HD codec binary with a 512 mb memory map, but TI apparently hasn't done the build work themselves.

Motorola likely doesn't have the manpower to make ICS available again for devices like the Droid 3 so yeah owners are burned and stuck on 2.3 unless they want to use kexec to do it. How to Eat a Hat (Droid 3 developments) … « Hash-of-Codes

Now the kexec is great but having a stock build of ICS to work off of would have made dev's like Hashc0de's lives a lot easier. That and it was literally luck that TI went back and did what they did....without it..D3 users may not have had as good of a ICS build as we get now.

Yeah, I agree. The brand's iconic for sure, but they're milking it for all it's worth again.

 

I loved my Droid but I was underwhelmed with Motorola's more recent offerings. Back in December I compared the Droid RAZR with the Galaxy Nexus and the RAZR wasn't even close.

 

Personally, I was baffled as to why TI let OEM's pair OMAP4 with 512MB of RAM. All devices of that generation should have had 1GB standard anyway. So I MOSTLY blame Motorola, but there is some blame to go TI's way. That's probably the reasoning behind them going back and remapping some things for building the HD codec in with 512MB of RAM... almost like a "whoops what were we thinking?!" moment.

Indeed.

TRY HARDER MOTO.