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    All Things Android - Apps, Phones, Tablets - Discussion

    Discussion in 'Smartphones and Tablets' started by H.A.L. 9000, Aug 1, 2010.

  1. MidnightSun

    MidnightSun Emodicon

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    Really? Never had that problem before, using Chrome and SwiftKey.
     
  2. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    Anybody else with a Nexus seeing this mess?

    Jan 23, 2013 - YouTube

    The jumpy input is really pissing me off. It only gets like that when it heats up... Which is under normal use.
     
  3. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    My rev 10 did that when it got warm. You should RMA it. My Nexus 4 had a dead area on the touch screen. I thought the jumpiness might have been related to that, but it did seem to do it more often when it was warm.

    Is the notification bar jumpy too? Mine was laggy and jumpy.
     
  4. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    Haven't seen my Nexus 4 with that issue....yet.
     
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    D: You liar! You said it didnt :p Oh well, I'm still in a tablet holding pattern so i guess thats fine.
     
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    I find the 8" form factor strange... since 7" is more portable... but I guess they want to differentiate the 7" line as budget tablets and want to compete with the iPad mini (which isn't a great strategy).

    Did the 7.7" do well? Not sure if the WiFi-only version ever came out in North America.
     
  8. Micaiah

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    Nope. The Tab 7.7 was pretty expensive for a 7" tablet and the U.S. only got a LTE version for Verizon without the telephony function. I had the international model with the 3G connectivity and it still has the best looking AMOLED screen I've seen thus far.

    Just checked the Verizon webpage and they are still selling it for $400, no contract.
     
  9. Phistachio

    Phistachio A. Scriabin

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    I guess. Personally I've had no issues with typing, perhaps some issues here and there, but nothing major or worth noting.
     
  10. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    I hope the Tab 3 7" keeps the current design and is the rumored 149 price because I will buy one @ that pricepoint unless Google releases a non-ASUS OEM tablet for the same/similar price.
     
  11. Micaiah

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    Picked up a brand new Xperia TL for $100. Guy used an extra line on his account to get it but decided he didn't want to change from his iPhone 5 and just wanted his money back. Best Craigslist deal I've had thus far.
     
  12. hizzaah

    hizzaah Notebook Virtuoso

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    Rooted today.. Now I need to decide what to do next
     
  13. Micaiah

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    ...With a popular Samsung device that's been rooted? You've got all kinds of options available to you.

    I would:
    A.) Get rid of all the AT&T crap. Download Titanium Backup from the Play Store and uninstall anything with an orange icon or has AT&T on it, or...
    B.) Flash the latest International firmware for the N7105 (Baseband already removed to preserve your LTE connectivity) with ODIN. Enjoy the nice clean firmware that the Europeans and Asians have across the pond, with faster updates to boot.
    C.) Flash a custom recovery via Toolkit. Download and flash latest CyanogenMod official nightly build and have the same OS the Nexus people continually boasts about.

    Just checked the Note II Development section on XDA and you guys are drowning in ROM and Kernel options.

    <= Jealous.
     
  14. radji

    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    Phistachio A. Scriabin

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    That's why I chose the N7100 over the 05 : more ROM availability and options and they,re only growing. CM10.1 is almost at a stable stage.

    Oh and hizzah, flash TWRP, not CWM, it's so much better.
     
  16. Step666

    Step666 Professional chubby Chris Pratt impersonator

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    After all those pointless secession petitions, what did you expect?
     
  17. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    Too bad there'll never be a truly stable "m" version of CM for any Exynos 4 device.
     
  18. Phistachio

    Phistachio A. Scriabin

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    The GSII received a Milestone version if I'm not mistaken, the GNote 2 should also get one due to its popularity. Lack of sources is indeed a shame tho...
     
  19. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    Nope. Exynos 4 devices based on 4210 or 4412 will never get M versions.
     
  20. radji

    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    I expected them to build a Death Star. But I will settle for all's us Android and iOS users being able to root/jailbreak our phones. I'd go crazy if I couldn't theme my SGS3.

    Second that. CWM has fallen so far behind in recent years. I don't have nearly as many issues (actually no issues) using TWRP as I did with CWM. Sometimes change is for the better.
     
  21. Step666

    Step666 Professional chubby Chris Pratt impersonator

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    The petition only relates to unlocking, I doubt you'll ever see a law legalising rooting.
     
  22. radji

    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    Step666 Professional chubby Chris Pratt impersonator

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    Hmm, strange.
    Still I guess the legality of it and whether it voids your warranty are two separate matters.
     
  24. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    Well, people are unlocking their phones they got for a significant discount up-front, then up and ignoring their contract and taking said phone to another carrier. Sure it hurts the customers credit ...Destroys it, matter of fact... but it happens a LOT.

    Now, being able to change the software on said device through unlocking the boot loader or jailbreaking is 100% legal.
     
  25. Step666

    Step666 Professional chubby Chris Pratt impersonator

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    Seriously?
    In the UK, you could maybe do that once but after you ruined your credit rating you'd never get a contract with any mobile network, at least not for years and years.


    Which is fair enough, I root, I use Odin to flash firmwares etc.
    But, legal or not, if you mess up your handset by doing something like that then it's only fair you kiss your warranty goodbye.
     
  26. radji

    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    Now see I can understand the logic behind the Copyright Office's decision not to include unlocking in the DCMA exceptions. It lets customers circumvent their contracts and take their phones to another carrier before the contract is up. But what I don't like is the fact the USCO saying a subscriber still needs to get carrier permission to unlock after their contract is up. Once someone's contract is done I would think it shouldn't be a big deal for the person to be able to unlock their phone and take it to a different carrier if they were unsatisfied with their current carrier. But I guess the USCO doesn't see it that way. In any event, the major OEMs have vowed to take this "ruling" all the way to the supreme court to get it invalidated. I can see Apple getting iOS jail-breaking made a no no, but no the rest of them. They should read the rules behind open source software before they try to get android rooting outlawed.
     
  27. Step666

    Step666 Professional chubby Chris Pratt impersonator

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    Not really.
    If you're prepared to unlock your handset and then not pay your contract, why would the fact it's illegal under the DCMA put you off?
    Also, what's to stop you getting the unlocking code through your network during your contract period and then leaving and not paying?


    There's a lack of internal logic to this statement.
    If it's ok for it to be illegal during the contract then it has to be ok for it to be illegal afterwards - only the networks will know if the customer is out of contract or not, so any third-party unlocking service could not knowingly differentiate between customers it was ok to help and those it was not.
     
  28. radji

    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    OK, let me rephrase then. The USCO says you will need carrier permission to unlock your phone at any time for any reason. I think it would have made more sense to word the exception to allow a subscriber to unlock their phone on their own once their contract is up. If they don't have a contract anymore with their carrier, then they shouldn't need the carrier's permission to unlock their phone. But I see your point. Right now if people are willing to unlock their phone then jump ship to a different carrier without paying their current contract, then making it illegal is just gonna make them want to do it even more.
     
  29. Step666

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    So how would you enforce that?
    As I say, any unlocking process other than doing so via the network would not be able to differentiate between handsets whose users are still in contract and those who are not.

    I wouldn't go that far, I just think that anyone who is prepared to ruin their credit rating like that isn't going to be overly concerned about the DCMA.
     
  30. radji

    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    Actually, there is. For differentiation, carriers use either the MEID or the IMEI number to track which handsets "belong" to which carrier. I ran into that mess when I tried to port my cousin's Verizon blackberry over to my Sprint account like 5 years ago. Sprint sold the same model of blackberry that her Verizon one was, and both networks were running on the same CDMA frequencies. But the Sprint rep said he couldn't register the IMEI number with Sprint's network because it's technically "owned" by Verizon and the FCC apparently barred carriers from registering devices on their network with IMEI numbers which belong to another carrier. Hopefully that explanation wasn't too convoluted. Even with SIM phones, my sister can use my mom's AT&T sim card in her T-mobile phone like it was her own. But the minute she tries to go into AT&T to have them port her phone over to their network, AT&T says they can't without T-Mobile releasing the phone's IMEI first. So the carriers here in the US at least have methods to track which phones originally belong to what network thru other mean.

    Your kidding right? Make something illegal and people will want it or want to do it just to irritate the government (as long as it's not something crazy like identity theft).
     
  31. hizzaah

    hizzaah Notebook Virtuoso

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    I'm gonna need to make a backup first right? What's the best way to make sure I don't lose my contacts/text messages?

    I don't want to lose my S Pen features and split screen. There are so many ROMs, how do I pick one?

    Definitely removing the ATT junk though.

    Where do I find that? This is the first time I'm seeing most of these terms so can you guys dumb it down a bit until I catch up on the acronyms lol

    Was TWRP/CWM decided when I rooted, or is that determined by a kernel or ROM?
     
  32. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    There really isn't an incentive to unlock a phone and not pay the contract. The two GSM providers in the US share the same blacklist. If you unlock your T-Mobile contract phone and switch to AT&amp;T, when T-Mobile blacklists it, it'll be blacklisted for AT&amp;T too.
     
  33. Step666

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    That's got nothing to do with unlocking though, nor does it allow the networks to tell if the owner of the handset is still under contract or not.

    Take the example you mentioned of the AT&T SIM in the T-Mobile handset.
    The handset must be unlocked for that to work yet the IMEI still shows as 'belonging' to T-Mobile, so the IMEI doesn't affect unlocking.
    Also unless I'm mistaken, even if/when the handset is out of contract, the IMEI will always show as 'belonging' to T-Mobile and even if that's wrong, the IMEI can't tell anyone but the original network whether the customer is out of contract or not.



    Nope.
    Then again, I should've realised that being the US, normal rules don't apply.
     
  34. Micaiah

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    If you want to retain S-Pen and split screen functionality, I would recommend flashing a N7105 firmware that had its baseband image taken out. That allows you to keep the Samsung apps and get rid of all the AT&T crap without having to tirelessly hunt each individual pieces down to exterminate them. If you decide to go this route, just get the Toolkit and the latest international firmware...

    Toolkit: [Galaxy Note2 TOOLKIT V3.0.0 ATT] Drivers, Backup, Root, CWM, TWRP, Flash Stock Image - xda-developers
    Firmware: [ROM][1/25][N7105XXDLL7 ULTIMATE] Best International Stock ROM for i317 Variants - xda-developers

    Aforementioned Toolkit allows you to pick between CWM and TWRP, so you can just select the right options and the application will take care of the rest. It also has options to perform backup, but I never perform backups and just proceed with fresh installations. Anything important or volatile, I just write down or save it to the external SD card. :)
     
  35. radji

    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    Yes it does. I went by the Sprint store yesterday and asked. All carriers have access to an MEID/IMEI database setup by the FCC. The database exists for carriers to verify two things. One is to verify the device in question is not stolen. The other is to verify the device is not locked to a different carrier. The tech (and it was a tech who explained this to me) explained that just because the phone itself is unlocked doesn't mean the IMEI has been released in the database. Per the revised exception the subscriber can ask their phone carrier for permission to unlock their phone to work on a different carrier. If their carrier grants that request then the carrier will need to one, unlock the phone itself software-wise, and two, release the IMEI number in the database so whatever carrier the subscriber is going to know the phone is not under contract by another carrier. I suppose if someone were to be able to unlock the phone using software they could also gain access to the database and release the IMEI, but I just don't see that happening.
     
  36. CoolMod

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    Just bought a new android phone in Japan..SH-06D Nerv edition...sigh I'm a nerd..
     
  37. Micaiah

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    That phone costs upwards to $1,500 U.S. Dollars. o_O

    Why not get a regular SH-06D and install the NERV theme on it?
     
  38. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    Man that's totally sweet, but 1100+ USD on Ebay..
     
  39. radji

    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    :eek: For that price I'd expect it to be plated in gold.
     
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    I hated 4.2 when i first saw it, hated the new pulldown bar.

    Now that CM 10.1 has added in some new features to change the layout and toggles on it, and after seeing some of the new lockscreen features, I'm gonna try it again :rolleyes:
     
  41. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    What phone do you have?
     
  42. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    I was mad when I found out on my old phone the notification bar was a T-Mobile thing, I can't find anything like it.

    I don't feel any difference doing the OTA update from 4.1 to 4.2.

    Anyone's Nexus 4 get really hot? Even sustained usage on mine, mine doesn't get really hot.
     
  43. booboo12

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    Yeah I'm still using 2.3. Be happy you get 4 anything :p

    /glares in MotoFail's general direction....
     
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    Pai Notebook Evangelist

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    I am actually using my galaxy S3 as a laptop replacement right now with Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. So far everything works very well! Besides the obvious android limitation of course:

    1. No external monitor support (MHL does mirroring, so the phone's screen stays on)
    2. No real resolution settings (UIs are scaled using DPI settings.value)

    I heard the above problems might be solve in Jelly Bean 4.2! From the change log, there are official platform support external monitors. Any one with a 4.2 Galaxy Nexus able to test this out? Is there even a setting for it at all? If I can just turn off my screen to reduce some heat and lag from screen mirroring, then everything is perfect! The nerd within me is really showing...
     
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    I would check out this XDA Developers thread... :)
     
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    Pai Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks! :) I know about this App already, and is very excited about it! Unfortunately it doesn't work with US variant of Galaxy S3 yet even with version 2. At least not on Jelly Bean, it would freeze the phone after a short period of time. I emailed the developer about it and talked with him; he said it has to do with "Project Butter" and how Jelly Bean handles vsync on our phone and he wanted to contact one of GSIII developer to help him. This was a few months ago though :( I was even accepted into Version 2 Closed Beta at one point! It looks like he made version 2 alpha available now which is great news, the new interface is really slick.
     
  48. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    I would die if I was still stuck on 2.3, no hardware acceleration FTL. I had dramatically better battery life going from stock T-Mobile 2.3 image to 4.0 image for my Blaze 4G.

    Yeah Motorola in general fails, I would never buy one nor an HTC.
     
  49. Micaiah

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    Some of you guys really need to try a Motorola device that's not tied down to a U.S. carrier. I had both the Verizon RAZR MAXX HD and now an international RAZR HD, and it's a big difference in terms of software modding. Procedures such as rooting and flashing custom ROM can be done in seconds on the international model where it would take up to five to ten minutes on the Verizon model.

    Heck, I even goofed up a firmware flash and RSDLite got the phone back up and running in two minutes. I'm seriously contemplating buying a bricked MAXX HD and changing out the casing so I can have that big 3300 MaH battery.
     
  50. Phistachio

    Phistachio A. Scriabin

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    You shouldn't feel that way about HTC. HTC is very good. They just have to fix some minor annoyances of theirs. Their devices are amazing, even though I'm a Samsung guy. But the Xperia Z beats, hands down, the HTC Butterfly.
     
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