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    All Things Android - Apps, Phones, Tablets - Discussion

    Discussion in 'Smartphones and Tablets' started by H.A.L. 9000, Aug 1, 2010.

  1. BigNerd

    BigNerd Notebook Deity

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    I don't think the One X or its variants sold particularly well in the US.

    I think it's free on contract now, but people would rather shell out $99 for the SIII.
     
  2. Micaiah

    Micaiah Notebook Deity

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    Got the One X+ disassembled, came apart fairly easy with the right tool. Got the Evitare frame ordered, but the LCD/Digitizer assembly with red capactive buttons is ridiculously hard to find. May have to settle with the regular Evita's part.
     
  3. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    Exynos 4/5 are planned ahead of time for whatever future clock speeds they're going to get (aside for the first Exynos SoC 4210, which was initially supposed to be 1GHz but at launch they decided 1.2GHz since their bin rate was so high).

    The only One X ad I've ever seen here was advertising the Beats Audio, of all things. Otherwise, I've not seen anything else.
     
  4. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    Is the Evo Shift 4G for 70 used a decent deal?
     
  5. MidnightSun

    MidnightSun Emodicon

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    eBay says not really.
     
  6. radji

    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    $61 isn't even a good deal. $35 would be about right. It's over two years old and it uses Wimax for 4G connectivity. [​IMG]
     
  7. Micaiah

    Micaiah Notebook Deity

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  8. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    Wanna buy me a new Nexus 4 in case Ubuntu is horrible?
     
  9. Micaiah

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    [​IMG]

    ...But seriously, this might be a bit of endeavor if you haven't done a full system flash on your Nexus, and the firmware will basically turn your phone into a glorified basic feature phone as mobile data does not work so you can only text or do voice calls. We'll let HAL tear up his Nexus 10 on our behalf. :)
     
  10. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    I don't want Ubuntu on my phone. :\
     
  11. Phistachio

    Phistachio A. Scriabin

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    • Install TWRP
    • Backup
    • Flash Ubuntu
    • Test it
    • If you don't like it, simply clean restore your backup.
     
  12. Step666

    Step666 Professional chubby Chris Pratt impersonator

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    Why go to all that hassle for something he doesn't want and won't work properly?
     
  13. Phistachio

    Phistachio A. Scriabin

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    I was just suggesting. Plus, if done everything correctly, it's no big hassle in the end...
     
  14. Johnny T

    Johnny T Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    LTE and no LTE on my N4 (Telus Canada):

    Photo 1.jpg

    1. HSPA+ Good signal
    2. LTE Good signal
    3. LTE Good signal (same location as #2)
    4. HSPA+ Good signal (same location as #1)
    5. HSPA+ Bad signal
    6. LTE Bad signal
     
  15. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    'Tis why it's a "Developer Preview", good sir.

    Lay-peoples need not apply.
     
  16. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    4.2.2 is already great, WAY better battery life from 4.2.1
     
  17. Micaiah

    Micaiah Notebook Deity

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    I believe the new 4.2.2 update disables LTE functionality completely, I take it your phone came with 4.2.1?
     
  18. Step666

    Step666 Professional chubby Chris Pratt impersonator

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    That's not really the point.

    The point was that having said he didn't want Ubuntu on his Nexus, there was little point replying to Tsunade with instructions on how to do it.
     
  19. Johnny T

    Johnny T Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I blame HAL9000 for this blasphemy. :p

    But yeah, Just flashed the 0.48 modem and installed a 4.2.2 rom (Paranoid Android). Not sure if it's the rom or 4.2.2, but holy moley the colour tone is very different.
     
  20. radji

    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    Very jelly. Waiting for 4.2.2 to come to my SGS3.
     
  21. Phistachio

    Phistachio A. Scriabin

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    Have you tried AOSP roms?
     
  22. radji

    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    I have but I like Touchwiz too much. Especially Touchwiz UX. When I got my SGS3 back in November, I tried CyanogenMod. I didn't like the feel of the AOSP's UI. But with the TW ROMs, the only things I've modified are the notification bar icons. Everything else I love just the way they are. :D
     
  23. Phistachio

    Phistachio A. Scriabin

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    I understand! I just flashed Android Revolution HD, a stock based ROM with some tweaks, and it's AMAZING! I missed S Pen so much :p
     
  24. radji

    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    That's what I have on my mom's HTC Inspire. Revolution HD 7 works way better than the stock HTC ROM she had on before.
     
  25. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    Developers that don't know what they're doing are screwing with the gamma tables and completely messing the colors up. That last Franco kernel I tried made my corneas bleed, the gamma was so bad.
     
  26. Johnny T

    Johnny T Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Oddly enough ti was Franco kernel r85 that fixed it. :p But yeah it was horrendous before. Which kernel would you recommend?
     
  27. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    There's already custom 4.2.2 rom out? Wow that's fast..
     
  28. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    I really like Franco's kernel. I just don't like him screwing with the color/gamma when he's shooting in the dark with which values to use. He should just make the kernel work as best as he can and wait for someone that knows what they're doing with regards to color calibration to calibrate it then give him the -correct- values.

    LOL. You underestimate the XDA community.
     
  29. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    Yeah apparently, I haven't bothered reflashing anything on my Nexus 4, it is a Nexus device..
     
  30. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    I noticed a few people purchased or already own a Nexus 4. I've tried several cases out, and the Poetic Atmosphere is definitely my favorite. It's a pretty good balance between protection and size. It features a slim hard shell with soft rubber covers over the buttons. It's semitransparent, so the Nexus logo is still visible. The buttons a very easy to press as well.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
     
  31. radji

    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    That's kind of the point of having a Nexus device. To have the plain Android experience without any custom UI or bloatware in the way.
     
  32. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    Well some people reason to get a Nexus device is to be able to have an unlocked device and flash anything you want on it compared to other phones. I haven't had an issue with this device and 4.2.2 = <3 for me, battery life is so much better, after nearly 14 hours use I'm at 70%, normally I'd be at 40%

    I hope the Galaxy Tab 3 7" is launched soon, I really want a 7" tablet
     
  33. radji

    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    I should take my phone out into the world and stress it to test it's battery power. Right now it's at 68% at 19 hours. But I've not used it much since I charged it up last night and I've been home all day so my SGS3 has been on WiFi all day and I use a airrave to boost my cell signal. So my home use is not a good location of measuring real world battery use. I was "incensed" when the software update Sprint just released for the SGS3 was just to fix some security, mms, and voicemail issues. Why would updates those menial require a 157MB file?
     
  34. hockeymass

    hockeymass that one guy

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    Unless you have a Galaxy Nexus like me, lolz.
     
  35. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    I thought the Galaxy Nexus for CDMA carriers had bloatware on it, at least my friend's G-Nex on Verizon did (he bought it on contract).
     
  36. hockeymass

    hockeymass that one guy

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    That's what I was saying. The Galaxy Nexus is a poor excuse for a Nexus device.

    To be fair though, the bloatware mine came with was really only the Verizon Visual VM app and the MyVerizon app, neither of which are too bad. The big problem is the complete failure to deploy updates in a timely fashion.
     
  37. Tsunade_Hime

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    Is it only on the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, because my coworker has a Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile and he just got 4.2.2 upgrade I think a few days ago..
     
  38. booboo12

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    Only the Verizon Galaxy Nexus is way behind on the update train.
     
  39. hockeymass

    hockeymass that one guy

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    4.2.2? Verizon's still back at 4.1.1. It's insane.
     
  40. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    Ouch that's pretty harsh, 4.1.1 is late summer right? Cause 4.2 was November, and when I got my Nexus 4, as soon as I powered it on and set it up, it had told me about a 4.2 OTA update. Only reason why my dad and brother are still on Verizon is because my dad used to work for Verizon and he gets crazy discounts.
     
  41. hockeymass

    hockeymass that one guy

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    4.1.1 was released on 7/23/2012 and OTA on Verizon was September 21st. 4.2 was in November of last year and still hasn't been released for Verizon. Over four months behind.

    I also forgot that Verizon killed Google Wallet on it's version of the GNex, supposedly because they were rolling out their own payment service. Over a year later, still nothing. I've got an NFC chip in my phone that's near completely useless.
     
  42. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    It was months before Verizon's Xoom got the 4.1 update... the MZ604 WiFi Xoom model got 4.1 the day Google announced it.
     
  43. Mitlov

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    We've got a new email system at work and our IT guy basically has told me that WP is no longer being supported by our office, so I need Android (or iOS) to get work email. I'm due for a new phone at the end of March, and I'm going to stick with US Cellular, so my options for a new phone are the following. I really haven't followed Android that closely, except for some flagship models, so I don't have a good sense of what's good. I mainly use my phone for email and photos (plus some recreational web browsing and rss feeds). So camera quality and screen size and quality are important to me; processor speed much less so unless the phone is laggy or sluggish in day-to-day operations.

    So which of these should I get?

    Galaxy S3, $149. I know it's popular as all heck, and I know TouchWiz has a pervy-sounding name, and I like the screen size and light weight, but I'm not enamored with the feel of the case...and that's about it. Is it as good as its market dominance suggests? Or is that more a matter of good marketing than excellent product?

    Galaxy Note 2, $299. It's got a quad-core instead of a dual-core like the S3...would I notice the difference in day-to-day tasks? I'm a little wary about the size and the price. And the stylus isn't a selling point for me...I don't use the stylus on my Vaio Duo 11 for anything but art, and I won't be doing any art on the Note 2.

    Motorola Electrify M, $99. I know nothing about this, or about Motorola's reputation. The specs (including a 4.3" 540 x 960 screen) appear to be a step down from the Galaxy S3 but a huge step up from what I have.

    LG Splendor, $99. Like the Electrify, I know nothing about this, or about LG's reputation. I like the case design but at first glance reviews seem very lukewarm. Stay away?

    Which would people here recommend, and why?
     
  44. radji

    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    This is what I've got. I picked one up on Black Friday. Looking back, I wouldn't have minded paying the full $150 for the upgrade (got it for $70 out the door). This phone is so awesome. WAY better than my previous Android (Samsung Epic 4G). Definitely not sluggish on day to day operations. The phone/call interface is much better than I expected. I'm not pocket dialing or fighting the screen to turn on to type in a number while in call. Email wise, it works just as good as expected, it would more depend on what app you are using for your email. I'm still getting used to the touchscreen keyboard in landscape mode, but I've been using the swype keyboard more so it balances out. I found I can type much faster with swype than I can with a conventional smartphone keyboard. Screen size and and resolution haven't disappointed me yet. AFA TouchWiz goes, yes it sounds perverted, and it is more an acquired taste. Battery life for me seems to be good as well. Out all day using it and it's ran down now to 59%. Definitely a phone I would recommend.

    I know Iliya (Phistachio) has the Note 2, so you may want to PM him if you want a review on it's solvency. But IMO, a screen that size and quad-core CPU will obviously drain the battery down faster than a normal sized screen and dual core CPU.
     
  45. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    I think you should go for the Galaxy Note II. And I also think that if you got the Note II, you'd use the stylus more than you think. It's really super integrated into Android. It becomes almost second nature to use the stylus for some things.
     
  46. Ultra-Insane

    Ultra-Insane Under Medicated

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    I have the GIII I would of kind of liked the Note II quad and 1080. On the overall feel I must say don't almost all of us use a case? Without the case I find it too thin and slippery. With the case I have I only use the back plate. It gives it a good not slippery feel. Really feels solid. The case really addresses any feel quality of matarials for me. Samsung gets some very thin and light units and as said maybe build does not feel so great.

    Can you wait for the GIV, that is going to be one great phone. I think when released for at least a couple of months will be the best.
     
  47. Tsunade_Hime

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    The Note 2 is a little overwhelming at first, but you get used to it. The battery life is surprisingly good with a huge battery.
     
  48. Mitlov

    Mitlov Shiny

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    Good point about the case. I don't use a case for my 7 Pro, but as a slider, it's thick and heavy even without a case. I'll just find an attractive and pleasant-feeling case for the GS3 and solve my biggest gripe about it.

    I can't afford to wait for the Galaxy S4. Going the next 30 days without work email on my phone is going to be hard enough; adding in another couple months would be a deal-breaker. I can deal with a slightly long-in-the-tooth processor in exchange for a phone whose bugs have all been ironed out and that is available the first day I'm eligible to get a new phone.
     
  49. Micaiah

    Micaiah Notebook Deity

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    If you don't mind the size, I definitely agree with the rest on the Note 2. With light usage, the battery will last you nearly three days. The Galaxy S III is easily the next choice if you find Note II to be too large. The Electrify M is basically U.S. Cellular's version of the Droid RAZR M, but as you have mentioned, the screen resolution takes away from an otherwise good device. I would not bother with the LG.

    If you don't mind me asking, what is the Email system your IT is using?
     
  50. Mitlov

    Mitlov Shiny

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    The price differential ($149 out of pocket versus $299 out of pocket) is probably a bigger hurdle with the Note 2 for me than the size. It's actually not THAT much bigger in terms of LxWxH (though it will feel much bigger because it's more squared off), but that's a lot more coin out-of-pocket when two of the main advantages (quad-core processor and stylus) I don't really care about.

    I'll write off the Motorola and the LG; now it's just a race between the Galaxy S3 and the Galaxy Note 2.

    I honestly don't know. My eyes glaze over when people start talking about the technical details of that sort of stuff; I just don't understand it at all.
     
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