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You wanting good audio? The TI audio puts me off completely.

 

Well, to be fair, the Tegra 2 devices have a 256MB GPU buffer, so it's about 830MB or so of actual usable memory. OMAP 4 requires 128MB, but Google may be using more with ICS since it's shipping with hardware accel.

You have to remember that as the GPU's in these devices get bigger and badder, SoC space is limited and the GPU has to share main memory, which in T2's case is usually 256MB of LP-DDR2. OMAP4 is capable of DDR3, so I wonder... In that case the SGX540 will FLY. The LP-DDR2 that's in the Infuse has shown a performance increase of at least 20%.

 

At least on par with my current iPhone 4. I want to UPgrade. The lack of a good camera turns me off too. My phone spends the majority of my commute to work in the passengers seat hooked up to the aux jack of my car. If I'm not listening to music to get me through the day, I'm watching videos on the CNET app or YouTube.

 

Definitely understandable. I'm not sure when an OEM will use something like the WM8994 that's in the Hummingbird, and I won't use much else... since I use my devices as true convergence devices, for audio/video/camera/phone.

EDIT: Galaxy Nexus DMESG

Code:

Galaxy Nexus boot dmesg - Memory

<6>[    0.000000] Reserving 16777216 bytes SDRAM for VRAM
<4>[    0.000000] Memory policy: ECC disabled, Data cache writealloc
<6>[    0.000000] OMAP4460 ES1.1
<6>[    0.000000] SRAM: Mapped pa 0x4030d000 to va 0xfe40d000 size: 0x1000
<6>[    0.000000] SMC: Allocated workspace of 0x300000 Bytes at (0xbfd00000)
<7>[    0.000000] On node 0 totalpages: 165888
<7>[    0.000000] free_area_init_node: node 0, pgdat c077bd00, node_mem_map c08d2000
<7>[    0.000000]   Normal zone: 256 pages used for memmap
<7>[    0.000000]   Normal zone: 0 pages reserved
<7>[    0.000000]   Normal zone: 32512 pages, LIFO batch:7
<7>[    0.000000]   HighMem zone: 1792 pages used for memmap
<7>[    0.000000]   HighMem zone: 131328 pages, LIFO batch:31
<6>[    0.000000] PERCPU: Embedded 7 pages/cpu @c10d9000 s6784 r8192 d13696 u32768
<7>[    0.000000] pcpu-alloc: s6784 r8192 d13696 u32768 alloc=8*4096
<7>[    0.000000] pcpu-alloc: [0] 0 [0] 1 
<4>[    0.000000] Built 1 zonelists in Zone order, mobility grouping on.  Total pages: 163840
<5>[    0.000000] Kernel command line: console= mem=1G vmalloc=768M omap_wdt.timer_margin=30 no_console_suspend emmc_checksum_done=false emmc_checksum_pass=false androidboot.serialno=016B75D50801401D androidboot.bootloader=PRIMEKJ02 androidboot.baseband= lcd_bootfb=0xbea70000 mms_ts.panel_id=18 
<6>[    0.000000] PID hash table entries: 512 (order: -1, 2048 bytes)
<6>[    0.000000] Dentry cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
<6>[    0.000000] Inode-cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 3, 32768 bytes)
<6>[    0.000000] Memory: 512MB 136MB = 648MB total
<5>[    0.000000] Memory: 645816k/645816k available, 402760k reserved, 532480K highmem

François SIMOND aka supercurio, for Engadget

 

If it didn't have that amazing screen, I would have no reservations about being as disappointed as I am right now. Urg.

 

I have to warn you though Voice Actions isn't very good in French. English is my first language so I use it in English, but my girlfriend tried it in French on her SGS2 and she said it was pretty bad, so now she just uses it in English. lol

 

No biggie, I'm used to it by now! Everything works better in English nowadays.

 

I'm not really devastated about the audio thing. Most of the time I spend listening to music through my phone is in my car, where it's connected through Bluetooth.

 

Two things: 1. Jobs was a bit of an extremist O_O
2. Really? Only $40 billion?

 

testing out Voice actions, Vlingo, built in voice system (powered by vlingo), and Iris on my Samsung GS2. I will come back later with results.

 

That was a while ago. It's roughly twice that now. :3
Steve was a smart man, but he was off his rocker when he said those things.

 

Is there any good music app with custom eq?

 

PowerAmp is great. I use it everytime, it plays .flac

 

Not only Android but its also the SAMOLED display, especially the Galaxy Player's being so big. Even though AMOLED is great and power saving for blacks and dark colors, its a battery eater when it comes to whites.

Thats all? why the hell would they use so little? when most devices have 1GB now

Wow, he's crazy. He might have spent his last dying breath hating android, but he didnt succeed, its still here

Yep! PowerAMP FTW!

 

Galaxy Player in any form is S-LCD. To keep the price down, AMOLED panels aren't included.

Well, it's stated in that pastebin that I copied:

"Kernel command line: console= mem=1G vmalloc=768M"

So I presume there's just a LOT of it reserved for _something_. Maybe graphics, maybe a system wide GPU backstore, maybe just an odd memory configuration?

 

On the topic of Sir Steve of Jobsington, did anyone else see the supposed news that he was opposed to the concept of third-party apps?
Not always the visionary then...

iOS without apps would be dead in the water.

 

Prejudiced I tell ya!

 

Oh wow thats suprising seeing as its Samsung and has the "Galaxy" label

Ah okay, I guess we'll find out

Speaking of battery, when you look at the usage graph under "Awake" time, is there any way to find out what apps are MAKING it awake at those times?

 

Not really. Standard Android isn't that good in record keeping. MIUI will though.

 

Yeah... I think that was more his control-freak side.

From what I read, he was more concerned about how Apple could manage it... not really just against the idea of 3rd party apps.

Maybe he just didn't want fart apps.

 

Either way, he was vehemently opposed and took a lot of talking round.
As I say, had he won out I don't think the iPhone would be nearly as big as it is now.

Well, that didn't work.

 

Yeah, there's only so much one can do with Web Apps.

I've noticed that "Phone Idle" is at the top of the list of battery hogging functions on my phone....annoying.

 

There's one sure-fire way to fix that - switch it off when you're not using it

 

Galaxy S II death count : 2 deaths.


LOL

 

I want a phone that can cook for me. When should I expect this feature to come, probably Android 32.0?

 

Play N64oid on a GS2 while it's charging... you should be able to cook a fine steak on it. Gorilla Glass makes a brilliant cooking surface! True story!

 

Hahahaha

 

Ah, another aspect that GS2 truly excels over iPhone...

 

Indeed! The Tegra 2 devices are like hotplates when just charging! Do something while charging and they go into thermal shutdown...

*My Atrix did anyway. 70c is hot for a phone.

 

My phone warns me and reduces brightness at 42C

It can hit it with full brightness and playing a game, quite annoying. the phone doesnt even feel that hot

 

That would be the AMOLED panel driver. Try using an AMOLED in the direct sun in the summer and your phone will shut off within 3 minutes... promise. The AMOLED panels push a LOT of heat, almost like plasma TV sets.

It's written into the driver to dim the panel at a certain temperature, then at another temperature it will go into thermal shutdown. Those temperature settings can be moved around though. I think the OG Galaxy S is set at 53c on custom kernels and CM7. They can do up to, like, 80c with no damage at all.

 

I'm really beginning to wonder if my battery is faulty. It was charged at about 90%. Spent ten minutes on the royal throne and played a game called GalCon, simple game, and when I was done, battery was at 20%!!! I'll do some more video and audio testing, but otherwise it's going back and have no choice but to get an iPod.

 

Oh wow, 53 is alot better. 42 is way too low.

Ill have to put in a request for this on xda. lol

Yeah theres something NOT right there. Have you tried calibrating the battery? (You have to be rooted, etc)

 

LOL. Can't root it. H.A.L. 9000 looked into it for me and so far nothing.

 

Contact samsung or the people you bought it from then I'd say. Thats definetly not normal lol.

 

Oh, it's definitely rootable. It's just not a clean affair.

EDIT: Thought someone might find this useful... I did.

http://omappedia.org/wiki/Audio_Drive_Arch

 

Bought it from Amazon. I'm testing it a bit more. Seems wifi sucks the life out of it that I'm finding which is no good. I'm going to do some more testing though and see if I can figure out what's causing it or if it was a fluke occurrence, maybe bad battery reporting. Who knows.

 

Too_much_truth.

 

LMAO: (42char)

 

That sounded me on the 1st time ( and maybe 2nd time too ) I soft bricked my phone

 

The problem is, to many people it's bricked because they don't know how to recover. So to them it's a brick (a useless electronic device). But then again, if you're rooting or flashing your ROM you better have a backup recovery plan and understand how that works (or at least KNOW you have an out).

Oh, and I'm starting to use (and like) the Swype entry system. The couple things I don't like about it are:
- sometimes it pops up a notation or "tip" that covers the top row of keys and no way to get rid of it except wait for five seconds (ugh). I see no option to turn this off.
- if I mis-swype I can't easily just start over, I have to backspace over all the letters and start over. Wish there was an "undo" or "delete word" button or something

Also, what the heck is the difference between the Samsung Galaxy Player and the Samsung Galaxy S Wi-Fi 5.0 Media Player other than Player has 2.3.5 and S has 2.2?

edit: I see, the Galaxy S wi-fi 5.0 Media Player is a European version with no US warranty. Some people got it for $169 through some deal previously, but now it's almost as much as the Galaxy Player 5.

 

More like too much snobbery.
It's one of the things I really dislike about XDA.

From Wikipedia:

'Galaxy S WI-FI 5.0 also called Galaxy Player 5 (YP-GB70)'​

 

Thanks. Although I found it's not the same, the Galaxy Player has Gingerbread 2.3.5, Galaxy S has Froyo 2.2.

And they state:

It has 16 GB or 32 GB of internal flash storage that can be expanded with microSD card.

When it only has 8GB internal storage (5GB usable).

 

You can go to Settings -> Language & Keyboard -> Swype (Swype settings) -> Uncheck "Show tips."

Double-tap on the word you want to change and just swype. It replaces the selected word with what you newly swype.

 

It came with Froyo originally but can be upgraded to Gingerbread, once Gingerbread was released any units manufactured after that date would've been pre-loaded with it.

As for the capacity, I can only speculate that they added an extra model and the Wikipedia page was never updated.

 

Thanks, I have that unchecked but it still shows up.

I do that, but instead it brings up a slider to move the cursor and not highlight the word.

 

Nope, miss using such terms just generates panic amongst people who don't know better.

 

But the people misusing the terms obviously are the ones who don't know better, or they wouldn't be misusing the terms.

 

And hence they continue to spread the term. Personally I am not pointing out the people who are misusing the term. Just how annoying it is when the term is misused.

Eventually, it becomes "truth". You actually see that a lot on NBR too...(in a non-android/phone context)

 

Cause panic my hairy Scottish posterior.
Describing someone's phone, 'correctly' or otherwise, as bricked isn't going to panic anyone any more than the fact their handset isn't working.

This is also true to a degree though I'm sure plenty of more knowledgeable people also 'misuse' it too.


So what if it originally meant something subtly different, language is fluid, meanings for words change and now 'bricked' had a broader use.
A small number of people deciding they have a problem with that is pretty much the definition of snobbery.

And condescending PSAs do nothing to help, they just make the person doing the announcing sound like a(n) [ insert rude word here]



edit:

As I say, that's just how language works.
And bricked has been used in a broader sense for a long time now.