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    Apple iPhone X

    Discussion in 'Smartphones and Tablets' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Sep 12, 2017.

  1. Vasudev

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    Same as AW battery in echo models, to charge faster battery in turn dies faster than being replaced. Apple uses this technique on iphone 7 and upwards. Higher voltage faster charge time and more battery failures and replacements.
     
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    Well I've been charging my iToy X wirelessly since I got it and I have not any cycles :rolleyes:

    Bear in mind that the battery never fell below 50% on any given day, I charge it once a day. Yes my friend, the battery on this phone is just amazing.

    [​IMG]

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    Until Wireless charging means what it sounds like it should mean, it charges wirelessly wherever it is, instead of on a puck or cradle, I don't mind plugging in a cable.

    I am careful, and haven't had a single charging port go bad, although cables wear out.

    Charging in "slow" mode is also good enough except on rare occasions when I need full battery unexpectedly for long travel - like I fell asleep and forgot to plug it in and need to go far - fast charge saves me.

    Of course real wireless charging / power would save us all too ;)
     
  4. Vasudev

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    That reading isn't accurate since most info are sandboxed. I use AIDA64 to check that and after constant plug/unplug cycles I found 3% wear after a month. Use your wife's macbook and install coconut battery dmg file an bypass their Gatekeeper by handing a chicken leg. Its dead accurate. Don't forget to Soft reset your ipX using Volume down and power button. I don't know exact sequence, its worth a try on your iTroy.
     
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    You know that my wife has a McDonald's taptop? :eek:

    As for the restart sequence on the iPhone X, it is:

    To perform a hard reboot on the iPhone X, press and quickly release the Volume Up button, then do the same for the Volume Down button. Follow up by pressing the Side button, and hold until the display suddenly shuts off — about 10 seconds
     
  6. Vasudev

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    You mean @Donald@HIDevolution ? I don't remember seeing Apple products there!
     
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    Contrary to popular belief, I find the battery on my iphone 6s amazing. I use it ALOT all day and have 40 percent left at the end of the day with heavy use!



     
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    yeah iPhone's batteries despite being small in mAH capacity are twice as good as any 3000-3500 mAH battery from Android phones. Android phones have this insanely high standby battery sucking even if you're not using your phone and even if you have background refresh turned off which is what gives Apple the edge.

    Back in the old days of the iPhone 3 and 4 iPhones were known to have crappy battery life compared to BlackBerry phones or Nokia phones but a lot has changed and from my personal experience, their battery life stomps over any other phone right now.
     
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    Yep. Skype call consume very juice on internetOS compared to other platforms. 100%-90% after a Skype video call using data and Wifi.

    Background refresh is on iOS because Android calls it "Background Data Usage". You have become Apple user now!
     
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    Yes. You need a MASSIVE battery on an android phone to get close to the iphone battery life. The optimization of Software and hardware is hard to beat now. iphone is faster, and better battery life than any other phone I have used.
     
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    Phoenix: Please Test 11.3 on iphone X.
     
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    Isn't this more of a theoretical complaint than a practical one though? Because Galaxy S phones don't come with iPhone batteries or vice versa, the consumer products as a whole have comparable battery life to each other, and the "MASSIVE battery" didn't make the Galaxy S phones bulkier, heavier, or more expensive than their iPhone competitors.

    [​IMG]

    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/11/iphone-x-review-early-adopting-the-future/7/#h4
     
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    I did not say bulky. More of the inside of the Samsung phone is taken up with battery...thats all. As a rule, android phones use more battery as the OS is doing more things. That being said, I am trying an essential phone very soon loaded with MS launcher. I want to see how the battery lasts in my motorcycle customizing shop. I use my iphone as my business phone, have wi fi calling down there, no cell phone signal at all. So, after all day working down there, I have like 25-30% left. Now thats lots, but I want to see what the essential does down there.
     
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    All I can tell you is by the end of the day with pretty moderate to heavy usage, I am getting 50% battery left! So I charge my phone every other day! No Samsung or Android phone for that matter can do this despite them having a higher capacity battery. It's just the way Android works, the way it sucks the crap out of the battery even on standby is bizarre. I can change my iPhone X, leave it for a couple of hours and look at the battery, it's still be 100%

    Mind you, this is coming from an Android fanboy and an iOS hater and still am but sometimes we have to make compromises. the size, features, camera, battery life of the iPhone X is the perfect mix!
     
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    Agreed Phoenix. I am not an apple fanboy at all, I would love to be able to have my Surface 3, Dell xps 15 and my Lumia 950 xl with moonraker. HOWEVER, since the moonraker and 950xl are non players, I have to move to other devices. I sold my surface because it was piss poor as a true tablet. Just as I retired my 950xl because it was piss poor as anything other than a phone text machine. Apple, while being boring, works great in these to spaces. NO messing around with android to get solid battery life, security and don't even try to get 5 years of updates on ANY android phone until very recently. So, that leaves me with apple. Ipad is an awesome tablet, the iphone is an awesome phone...and with dell mobile connect and microsofts apps available on both platforms, my idevices are much more like windows devices now and communicate with my dell computers perfectly! the batteries in both devices are outstanding. I get all day and then some with both being used very heavily.

    I am not a fan of the X as you know...I think the 8 is the better design. Actually the 6s is the best of any iphone...headphone jack, forcetouch screen, awesome design, great battery and overall performance of the device, and have most anything you want as a case, accessory or add on at your fingertips. Cannot beat it!
     
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    Every tech review blog that has a standardized test for measuring battery life would disagree. I have never seen a standardized test where modern iPhones significantly outperform modern Galaxy S phones on battery life tests. Instead, they're typically very comparable, with the Samsung coming out slightly ahead at least as often as the iPhone comes out slightly ahead. Like the ArsTechnica one I just posted above. Or Tom's Guide:

    https://www.tomsguide.com/us/galaxy-s9-vs-iphone-x,review-5167.html
     
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    True, my experience has been opposite to the reviewers. I've owned a Note 4, Galaxy 4, Galaxy S5, Galaxy S6, Galaxy S7, Galaxy S7+, Note 7

    the battery is great the first few days, then I load my apps and turn off background refresh for them and don't have more than 1 or 2 apps usually, but the Android system is always consuming 20% of the battery while the phone is doing nothing.
     
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    Fair enough, there may be certain specific usage patterns where one phone outperforms the other in battery performance. I just think that that experience is probably specific to those certain unique usage patterns and not a general rule for most consumers.
     
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    I get the same results. These reviews are with brand new phones. After a couple of days most every android phone slows down, get crappy battery life and is just overall not as smooth, polished or come out with more battery life than the iphone. Hell, my lowly ole 6s blows the doors off the s8 in speed tests running multiple apps.
     
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    Again, I will leave this here....

    Proof is in the pudding!...the 6s smokes the s8 in speed, and battery life is better after about a week.

     
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    Im actually going to pick one up as soon as i can find a brand new one with 11.1.2 ... i literally refuse to use iOS without a Jailbreak. (And not for pirated apps and crap)
     
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    Installed 11.3 w/o any issues.
     
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    I would never use an iphone WITH a jailbreak, I like my banking information etc to be secure.
     
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    Use SP4 pro with Bitlocker for better protection.
    I wouldn't jailbreak until it reaches EOL.
     
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    yeah, not worth bothering with. I have made peace with the icon layout of IOS. It works for me.
     
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    Well there are way more ways to secure your info. A lot of this jailbreak "security" fears comes from people installing/modifying stuff without thinking. Someone who knows that they are doing and has control over the system, will never have any fear of information being stolen/leaked.

    If you add all sorts of BS repo's and install every tom dick and harry package meant to make your peepee 2 feet longer in 24 hours. Then those people are just asking for trouble. I want jailbreak for total control over the system, and so that i can ditch itunes.

    End of they day, dont just believe what you read, 99% of these security fears come from user errors.
     
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    As I mentioned...I am fine with how my idevices work. more so that Microsoft has given more support as well!
     
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    Yep I know, the info will be safe if you know what you're doing! As always, its the user who can prevent/allow malwares in the first place.
    Rooted my old android and its insanely fast and I use it everything even for banking too.
     
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    @kojack @Papusan

    After updating my iPhone X to iOS 11.3 from iOS 11.2.6 my battery life has literally doubled! :eek:
     
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    Has anyone tested FaceTime video battery consumption on iPhone X after last update? I used it for 15 mins in a video call, it marked 13% of the battery consumption for the latest 24hrs which is a lot. Also the case temp increased dramatically...
     
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    I shall give it a go now. Sounds like something was running hard in the background there for sure @Metalstream.
     
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    Hopfully they fixed the issue where in using imessage the person you are messaging's messages come in above yours after you say something. That was Effin annoying!
     
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    Nah, I use to have apps closed, anyway you should give it a try and see.


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    I will at some point im sure! I will report back. I have a new fixation at the moment. the P20 Pro. That thing has the camera I have been waiting for since my 1020.
     
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    Please put your SOT and Standby time screenie.
    11.2.5 fixed battery issues for most phones supported by iOS 11.
    I think the battery is okay on my mom's phone. 98% Youtube with 2-4h of screen on-time and after a day battery is 70% just now.
     
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    Windows phones died because carriers did not pick them?

    Umm... I've used a windows phone and the reason why I chose to use ANYTHING else was simple, I had a choise.
     
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    I owned a Windows Phone. I bought it at a carrier. Windows phones died because of the app gap (years behind in offering Pandora, Instagram, etc) and inferior specs for most of their life, not because of any carrier boycott.
     
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    I bought Windows phones for my grandparents back in the day, they were easier for them to use than Android or iOS.
     
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    the 1020 was available at telus, as was the 830. however, like miltov said, Apps killed the OS. Spec were fine, since windows phone/mobile was so light on system resources.
     
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    I remember one of the main selling points being how quick and smooth it was, pretty much regardless of what hardware it ran on. That was before Google's Project Butter, and as the other platforms kept evolving, and Windows Phone's massive quality app gapp remained, WP seemed left in the dust. The allure of the Lumia 1020's camera remained, and it was interesting to see someone proudly proclaim the use of plastic for durability and practicality. Microsoft didn't do enough to follow up, unfortunately, nor did they successfully convince respected developers to pour resources into their fledgling OS.
     
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    My 1020 was twice the phone build wise, than my iphone 6s is. Just because its plastic don't mean anything. Yes, samsungs plastic is crap. My 1020s plastic felt premium. Changing the screen was dead simple and had an amazingly designed screen mounting system. One screw, and the screen was removed...then you could replace the screen easily, or replace the battery easy. Unlike Anything apple has done. Plus, the camera still kicks ass to this day.
     
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    Yep, I think it's a shame that current flagships are too afraid to be anything but metal or glass. Glass is slippery and prone to smudges, while metal is prone to scratches, its anodizing may not hold up over time (the wrist rest of my Aorus X5 has seen this too), is bendable if using a weak alloy or a poor construction, and makes the inclusion of wireless charging and antenna bands more difficult.

    I think calling the material of Lumias polycarbonate made it more premium to the average consumer, and given Nokia's past of making durable devices like the Nokia 3310, it was the right company to be different, and I applaud them for it.
     
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    It WAS a more premium plastic. As I said, the crap Samsung uses/used was just that. Crap. the feel of the Nokia devices was WAY better. Aluminum and glass must be the two worst materials for a device that could and will be dropped. Aluminum since it's a very soft metal, and glass is self explanatory.
     
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    Btw I tested my iphone X with the latest iOS (11.3) using facetime video. In a 15 mins videocall my battery dropped 10% its charge.

    Time I started my call

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    Initial battery percentage

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    Final battery percentage

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    Time I finished my videocall

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    No other apps were open, and I must say that the iPhone temperature increased by the upper side nearby the main camera.


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